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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in the
house. Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone I had
left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. I'd probably be in the
hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd probably use
it.

Eisboch


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... Get a shotgun.

Casady

Eisboch lives in a state that considers you a criminal if you have an
unregistered gun in your possession. Just bringing a gun over the state
line entitles you to one year free room and board courtesy of the state.

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"jim" wrote in message
...
Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in the
house. Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front
door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone I
had left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. I'd probably be in
the hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd probably
use it.

Eisboch

You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... Get a shotgun.

Casady

Eisboch lives in a state that considers you a criminal if you have an
unregistered gun in your possession. Just bringing a gun over the state
line entitles you to one year free room and board courtesy of the state.

Judging by some of the gun happy yahoos in here, I'd have to consider that a
progressive state.

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On Aug 30, 10:49*am, "Don White" wrote:
"jim" wrote in message

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. *Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. * I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in the
house. *Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front
door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone I
had left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. *I'd probably be in
the hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd probably
use it.

Eisboch

You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... *Get a shotgun.

Casady

Eisboch lives in a state that considers you a criminal if you have an
unregistered gun in your possession. Just bringing a gun over the state
line entitles you to one year free room and board courtesy of the state..

Judging by some of the gun happy yahoos in here, I'd have to consider that a
progressive state.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, that Harry is one quick draw guy, huh?

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Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch
Italian, huh?

No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch


http://www.maybachusa.com/index.php

Not your style.

I'm guessing a '40's drive-by car?

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Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch
Italian, huh?

No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch



I missed the link. Who's the driver?

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"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch
Italian, huh?

No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch
http://www.maybachusa.com/index.php


Wow.

Wanna buy a Porsche?

Eisboch

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hk wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in
the house. Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front
door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone
I had left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. I'd probably be
in the hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd
probably use it.

Eisboch

You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your
house if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family
member. I'm not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor
trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... Get a shotgun.

Casady


As you say, it has to be a reasonable fear of personal injury or death.

Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.
This isn't Texas, after all.

When I discussed a threat we had received with our local sheriff, he was
very clear that I couldn't legally just shoot at the "perp" if he was on
the property, but he was equally clear that if the "perp" busted in the
door or even tried to do so, I could blow the idiot away with my 12
gauge. When I asked about "retreat," the sheriff said, "Retreat to
where? A bedroom?" and then he laughed.

What did the sheriff says about pinning the guy against the garage wall
and breaking his legs with your F-150?

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On Aug 30, 9:53*am, hk wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. *Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. * I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in the
house. *Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone I had
left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. *I'd probably be in the
hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd probably use
it.

Eisboch

You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... *Get a shotgun.

Casady

As you say, it has to be a reasonable fear of personal injury or death.

Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.
This isn't Texas, after all.

When I discussed a threat we had received with our local sheriff, he was
very clear that I couldn't legally just shoot at the "perp" if he was on
the property, but he was equally clear that if the "perp" busted in the
door or even tried to do so, I could blow the idiot away with my 12
gauge. When I asked about "retreat," the sheriff said, "Retreat to
where? A bedroom?" and then he laughed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow, then your sherrif is a ****ing idiot... A friend teaches a course
on handguns and specifically when to use "deadly force" and one of the
main things is to retreat to a safe area and warn the perp, if he
comes that way..

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On Aug 31, 8:26*am, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. *Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. * I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in
the house. *Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front
door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone
I had left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. *I'd probably be
in the hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd
probably use it.

Eisboch

You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your
house if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family
member. I'm not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor
trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... *Get a shotgun.

Casady

As you say, it has to be a reasonable fear of personal injury or death.

Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.
This isn't Texas, after all.

When I discussed a threat we had received with our local sheriff, he was
very clear that I couldn't legally just shoot at the "perp" if he was on
the property, but he was equally clear that if the "perp" busted in the
door or even tried to do so, I could blow the idiot away with my 12
gauge. When I asked about "retreat," the sheriff said, "Retreat to
where? A bedroom?" and then he laughed.

What did the sheriff says about pinning the guy against the garage wall
and breaking his legs with your F-150?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The conv never happened.. it was a Harrytale, that's why he won't
address it again..

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On Aug 31, 9:59*am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 30, 9:53 am, hk wrote:
Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.
This isn't Texas, after all.

When I discussed a threat we had received with our local sheriff, he was
very clear that I couldn't legally just shoot at the "perp" if he was on
the property, but he was equally clear that if the "perp" busted in the
door or even tried to do so, I could blow the idiot away with my 12
gauge. When I asked about "retreat," the sheriff said, "Retreat to
where? A bedroom?" and then he laughed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow, then your sherrif is a ****ing idiot... A friend teaches a course
on handguns and specifically when to use "deadly force" and one of the
main things is to retreat to a safe area and warn the perp, if he
comes that way..

Tell us, oh highly educated and experienced man of the world, just what
*is* a "safe area" in a modern frame house? In a bedroom behind a hollow
core door? In most modern houses, even a short little schitt like you
could kick open an interior door in about five seconds.

Unless you have a hardened "safe room" in your house, there is no "safe"
area.

If someone has busted in my front door, he is going to be face to face
with the flash of a 12 gauge shotgun.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wafa.. but anyway, for the benefit of those who are not totally full
of ****....

He said since out bedrooms were upstairs we should take cover up there
and yell down that 911 had been called, all of the valuables like tv
and such were down there and if they came up the stairs, they would be
met with deadly force... I won't bother with your response as my is
true, yours is obviously based on some Lobsta' boat fantasy. You don't
go chasing a burglar, most don't have guns anyway and are counting on
getting in and out without detection... Once "detected" they will
usually run like hell...

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On Aug 31, 10:21*am, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 30, 9:53 am, hk wrote:
Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.

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On Aug 31, 10:21*am, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 30, 9:53 am, hk wrote:
Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.

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CalifBill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)

----------------------------------------------------------------



I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an intruder
to get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those
short aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless)
handy in the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just
about anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain.
Unless they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have
been known to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good
thunk!


Eisboch


Best advice ever was from a sheriff in KY. He taught a home defense course
for women. If there was a intruder in the house call 911. Then turn on
your bedroom light and get behind the bed and bench rest your firearm
pointed at the door. Do not say a word! 99.99% of the time the perp will
turn and run. If they advance into the room, shoot them twice. Do not get
up and see if the guy is dead, or seriously wounded. Or even a flesh wound.
The cops will be there very shortly and if needed will break down the front
door. They will put the diagnosis on the bad guy. And do not feel bad about
shooting him. He deserved it, and had a chance to run.




The response oft is determined by where you are when the break-in
occurs. and what is handy for defense. Anyone breaking into my house is
going to make a considerable amount of noise, and it is a different sort
of noise than the cats make in their nocturnal prowling.

Further, even coming onto the property near the house is going to turn
on a number of floodlights controlled by motion detectors, and the light
from those floods is visible inside the house.

What I am not going to do is get close enough to a perp to swing an
aluminum baseball bat at him. He's either going to meet Mr. 12 gauge or
a magazine loaded with 19 SPEER GoldDots.

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On Aug 31, 2:51*pm, hk wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...
wrote in message
....

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)

----------------------------------------------------------------

I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. *He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. * *If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an intruder
to get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while standing Shore Patrol duty. *(sorry Harry). * I keep one of those
short aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless)
handy in the house. * A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just
about anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain.
Unless they are drunk. *Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have
been known to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good
thunk!

Eisboch

Best advice ever was from a sheriff in KY. *He taught a home defense course
for women. *If there was a intruder in the house call 911. *Then turn on
your bedroom light and get behind the bed and bench rest your firearm
pointed at the door. *Do not say a word! * 99.99% of the time the perp will
turn and run. *If they advance into the room, shoot them twice. *Do not get
up and see if the guy is dead, or seriously wounded. *Or even a flesh wound.
The cops will be there very shortly and if needed will break down the front
door. They will put the diagnosis on the bad guy. *And do not feel bad about
shooting him. *He deserved it, and had a chance to run.

The response oft is determined by where you are when the break-in
occurs. and what is handy for defense. Anyone breaking into my house is
going to make a considerable amount of noise, and it is a different sort
of noise than the cats make in their nocturnal prowling.

Further, even coming onto the property near the house is going to turn
on a number of floodlights controlled by motion detectors, and the light
from those floods is visible inside the house.

What I am not going to do is get close enough to a perp to swing an
aluminum baseball bat at him. He's either going to meet Mr. 12 gauge or
a magazine loaded with 19 SPEER GoldDots.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lobsta' boat.. he would find you hiding behind your wife with soiled
pants most likely

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"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)

----------------------------------------------------------------

I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain. Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

Eisboch

You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Say what? Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the US
to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?



Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose child
is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.


Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.

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On Aug 31, 3:57*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in messagenews:5ISdncEzfbFqQyfVnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@comca st.com...





Don White wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

....

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)

----------------------------------------------------------------

I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain. Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

Eisboch

You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----------

Say what? *Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the US
to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?

Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose child
is less than perfect? *My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.

Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ouch, seems like the trolls are getting frustrated and vulgar again..

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wrote:

Ouch, seems like the trolls are getting frustrated and vulgar again..


Speaking of trolls, is this you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_XEnjDaz8


More fun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YgJ7jxfjc4


Policewoman meets Justwait?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfxfDOhofGs

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On Aug 31, 3:57*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in messagenews:5ISdncEzfbFqQyfVnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@comca st.com...





Don White wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

....

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)

----------------------------------------------------------------

I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain. Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

Eisboch

You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----------

Say what? *Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the US
to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?

Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose child
is less than perfect? *My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.

Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry will really like that, Don. He's as refined and cultured as you
and your above statement!

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On Aug 31, 2:58*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:51 pm, hk wrote:

Lobsta' boat.. he would find you hiding behind your wife with soiled
pants most likely

Uh-huh. I'll tell you what I would not do. I would not get into an
argument with a cop that resulted in me being pushed down stairs, as you
did.

Oh..wait...you caught yourself on the stair railing. That makes it ok.

Oh, you'd just cower in the corner, huh?

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Don White wrote:



Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose child
is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.


Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.

Ah, so you did get my point. Since there are next to none genetically
perfect humans most of us would have been aborted. Harry sounds like
Hitler when he thinks it is the parents obligation to abort children
with problems.

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Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
Don White wrote:



Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose
child is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort
your kids.


Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.

Ah, so you did get my point. Since there are next to none genetically
perfect humans most of us would have been aborted. Harry sounds like
Hitler when he thinks it is the parents obligation to abort children
with problems.

Or many I gave you too much credit and you missed the obvious.

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wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 3:57 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in
messagenews:5ISdncEzfbFqQyfVnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@comca st.com...





Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)

----------------------------------------------------------------

I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He
taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in
immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy
in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain.
Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

Eisboch

You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----------

Say what? Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the US
to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?

Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose
child
is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.

Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Ouch, seems like the trolls are getting frustrated and vulgar again..

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't be an idiot Scotty.
You cry like a schoolgirl if you think someone disrespects your family.

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wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 3:57 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in
messagenews:5ISdncEzfbFqQyfVnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@comca st.com...





Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)

----------------------------------------------------------------

I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He
taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in
immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy
in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain.
Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

Eisboch

You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----------

Say what? Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the US
to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?

Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose
child
is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.

Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry will really like that, Don. He's as refined and cultured as you
and your above statement!

Another idiot who acts like a whinning schoolgirl when someone brings his
family into the crap.
You don't mind it so much when it's someone elses family.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Hehehe.

That's hilarious.


"...the police are on the way..."

And they'll be there in about 45 minutes.

"Avoid eye contact..."

"Remain calm..."


My way is safer...if someone breaks into my house, they're...dead.

Then I call the police.

They can take their time getting here.



only to find out the intruder was a desperate husband needing help for a
sick wife waiting in the car.

Eisboch

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:43:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain. Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

That fish billy reminds me of something. My uncle told me this true
story.
When he was still living in my dad's home town of Terre Haute,
Indiana, one of his group's buddies died before his time.
The group were drinking hard after the wake, and ended up hauling the
buddy's body over to a tavern for a last drink with his pals.
Two guys walked him in and set him up on a stool at the bar when
the bartender was busy cracking ice with his ice billy.
Looked like he was sleeping with his arms and head on the bar.
They live guys all had a few drinks, and had a beer set up for their
dead buddy. The bartender didn't know he was dead.
Soon they walked outside to look at the new '41 Ford one of the guys
had just bought.
My uncle happened to be looking in the bar window, and could hear
and see what happened inside.
The bartender shook the dead guy and said,
"Hey, wake up you lousy drunk. I want to close up."
After a couple tries at this, the bartender got steamed and using his
ice billy whacked the guy on the head, knocking him off the stool.
Uncle Russ and his buddies ran into the bar and gathered around their
buddy on the floor.
Russ looked up at the bartender and said, "You sonofabitch, you killed
my buddy!"
The bartender said, "Hey! He pulled a knife on me!"

--Vic


heh. that's funny.

Eisboch

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wrote in message
...

On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:

If someone has busted in my front door, he is going to be face to face
with the flash of a 12 gauge shotgun.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You must think (and probably correctly) that everyone in the world
hates your lying low life guts if you always have a 12 GA shotgun in
your hands.

He goes wabbit hunting in his bedroom.

Eisboch

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"hk" wrote in message
...


The response oft is determined by where you are when the break-in occurs.
and what is handy for defense. Anyone breaking into my house is going to
make a considerable amount of noise, and it is a different sort of noise
than the cats make in their nocturnal prowling.

Further, even coming onto the property near the house is going to turn on
a number of floodlights controlled by motion detectors, and the light from
those floods is visible inside the house.

What I am not going to do is get close enough to a perp to swing an
aluminum baseball bat at him. He's either going to meet Mr. 12 gauge or a
magazine loaded with 19 SPEER GoldDots.


Only to find out it was your neighbor that came over to alert you that your
garage was on fire.

Eisboch

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Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 3:57 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in
messagenews:5ISdncEzfbFqQyfVnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@comca st.com...





Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??
I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...;)
----------------------------------------------------------------
I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He
taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.
His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".
Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in
immediate
physical danger.
If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy
in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain.
Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!
Eisboch
You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----------
Say what? Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the US
to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?
Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose
child
is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.
Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Ouch, seems like the trolls are getting frustrated and vulgar again..

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't be an idiot Scotty.
You cry like a schoolgirl if you think someone disrespects your family.





Go **** yourself is, actually, the proper response to any post by Reggie.

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Hehehe.

That's hilarious.


"...the police are on the way..."

And they'll be there in about 45 minutes.

"Avoid eye contact..."

"Remain calm..."


My way is safer...if someone breaks into my house, they're...dead.

Then I call the police.

They can take their time getting here.



only to find out the intruder was a desperate husband needing help for a
sick wife waiting in the car.

Eisboch



Any desperate husband coming down my street looking for help for a sick
wife can ring my doorbell, as is usually done in the semi-civilized
world. Of course, I don't know how it is in your part of Massachusetts,
but I used to be a frequent visitor to that state (lots of relatives),
and I suspect the same was true there, too...need help...knock on the door.

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

The response oft is determined by where you are when the break-in occurs.
and what is handy for defense. Anyone breaking into my house is going to
make a considerable amount of noise, and it is a different sort of noise
than the cats make in their nocturnal prowling.

Further, even coming onto the property near the house is going to turn on
a number of floodlights controlled by motion detectors, and the light from
those floods is visible inside the house.

What I am not going to do is get close enough to a perp to swing an
aluminum baseball bat at him. He's either going to meet Mr. 12 gauge or a
magazine loaded with 19 SPEER GoldDots.


Only to find out it was your neighbor that came over to alert you that your
garage was on fire.

Eisboch



I suspect my neighbor would ring the doorbell or knock on the door, not
bust in the door, eh?

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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:
If someone has busted in my front door, he is going to be face to face
with the flash of a 12 gauge shotgun.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You must think (and probably correctly) that everyone in the world
hates your lying low life guts if you always have a 12 GA shotgun in
your hands.

He goes wabbit hunting in his bedroom.

Eisboch




Good god, you *read* loogy's posts? Directly? Jesus.

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On Aug 31, 6:33*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:



If someone has busted in my front door, he is going to be face to face
with the flash of a 12 gauge shotgun.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You must think (and probably correctly) that everyone in the world
hates your lying low life guts if you always have a 12 GA shotgun in
your hands.

He goes wabbit hunting in his bedroom.

Eisboch

No, he has dual 6 packs. I can see him standing there with his little
cowboy suit, shiny star, tight boots, short pants and his fancy vest
riding up on his bloated belly....;)

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He goes wabbit hunting in his bedroom.


There's something vewy scwewy going on awound here.

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On Aug 31, 6:46*pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Hehehe.

That's hilarious.

"...the police are on the way..."

And they'll be there in about 45 minutes.

"Avoid eye contact..."

"Remain calm..."

My way is safer...if someone breaks into my house, they're...dead.

Then I call the police.

They can take their time getting here.

only to find out the intruder was a desperate husband needing help for a
sick wife waiting in the car.

Eisboch

Any desperate husband coming down my street looking for help for a sick
wife can ring my doorbell, as is usually done in the semi-civilized
world. Of course, I don't know how it is in your part of Massachusetts,
but I used to be a frequent visitor to that state (lots of relatives),
and I suspect the same was true there, too...need help...knock on the door.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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"RG" wrote in message
. ..

He goes wabbit hunting in his bedroom.


There's something vewy scwewy going on awound here.


Ehhhhh......what's up Doc?

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