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Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
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Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Eisboch wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz I think says it all: After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain. And he talks too much. On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden found himself explaining why he had described Obama as "clean." And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president. It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Eisboch wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz Yawn. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:45:13 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: Eisboch wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz I think says it all: After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain. And he talks too much. On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden found himself explaining why he had described Obama as "clean." And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president. It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree. Here's a short little article with a great last line: "Why is it this way round: why isn't the able, experienced, reassuring guy the one at the top of the ticket?" http://tinyurl.com/6cko88 |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:45:13 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: Eisboch wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz I think says it all: After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain. And he talks too much. On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden found himself explaining why he had described Obama as "clean." And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president. It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree. Here's a short little article with a great last line: "Why is it this way round: why isn't the able, experienced, reassuring guy the one at the top of the ticket?" http://tinyurl.com/6cko88 LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets, stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away. With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that was possible. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
"hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz Yawn. Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the convention. Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade. Eisboch |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz Yawn. Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the convention. Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade. Eisboch I wonder if the DNC will start to play music (as the do at the Oscars) if they go beyond their allotted time slot. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets, stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away. With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that was possible. Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17 points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz Yawn. Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the convention. Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade. Eisboch I was just thinking .... if McCain goes with Romney, it will be an interesting match up with Obama/Biden, especially when both sides start playing dirty. Obama and Romney are more alike .... somewhat reserved and polite in their exchanges. Both find it somewhat uncomfortable to engage in close quarter, confrontational attacks. It will be left to McCain versus Biden in the game of making viscous, personal attacks. Both are evenly matched, with Biden perhaps having a slight advantage in the capability of pure, unadulterated nastiness. Eisboch |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz Yawn. Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the convention. Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade. Eisboch Yeah, really. I'd put Bill on about three hours after the end of prime time. On the other hand, Bill will do a terrific job of reminding everyone how well the country did with him at the helm, and how crappy is is doing now, and that McCain is just four more years of Bush. I have a feeling Biden will be a bit more disciplined. One good thing about Biden, of course, is that he actually knows something. That alone differentiates him from the top and second banana of the Republican ticket. McCain is one senior moment after another, and Romney is the flip-flop champion of the GOP. A second good thing about Biden is that the professional Republican slimers are already on the attack. I can't wait for Obama and Biden at some point in the campaign to pledge to NOT send the sons and daughters of America off to a war because of a mistake or for political reasons. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:44:47 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
I was just thinking .... if McCain goes with Romney, it will be an interesting match up with Obama/Biden, especially when both sides start playing dirty. I could be wrong, but Romney doesn't seem to fit for me. He's a Mormon, which wouldn't make a difference to me, but to evangelicals? It's a big part of the Republican base, a part of the base that is lukewarm on McCain as it is. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
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Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:03:29 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:42:27 -0500, wrote: LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets, stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away. With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that was possible. Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17 points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis. Let's face it - President Dukakis wasn't going to happen anyway. Obama reminds me a lot of Dukakis actually - same prevarication, same intellectual approach to questions never giving a straight answer - same lack of practical experience in the real world. It's going to be a close race - maybe. I've been reading the breakouts on the polls and Obama is running way behind in some key demographics - even among union members which you would think is a strong point. Can't tell now - need to get through the conventions and get some solid data sets. Go ahead and call it. You did pretty well on gas prices, although another fifty cent decline wouldn't bother me much. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:44:47 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message m... "hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/...EniK2F1sn wcF or http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz Yawn. Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the convention. Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade. I was just thinking .... if McCain goes with Romney, it will be an interesting match up with Obama/Biden, especially when both sides start playing dirty. Obama and Romney are more alike .... somewhat reserved and polite in their exchanges. Both find it somewhat uncomfortable to engage in close quarter, confrontational attacks. It will be left to McCain versus Biden in the game of making viscous, personal attacks. Both are evenly matched, with Biden perhaps having a slight advantage in the capability of pure, unadulterated nastiness. Under that scenario, McCain and Biden squaring off would only emphasize Obama's weakness. Which (heh - this is a good one) would mean that Biden is Obama's Cheney. :) Which, now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:10:59 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:03:29 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:42:27 -0500, wrote: LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets, stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away. With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that was possible. Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17 points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis. Let's face it - President Dukakis wasn't going to happen anyway. Obama reminds me a lot of Dukakis actually - same prevarication, same intellectual approach to questions never giving a straight answer - same lack of practical experience in the real world. It's going to be a close race - maybe. I've been reading the breakouts on the polls and Obama is running way behind in some key demographics - even among union members which you would think is a strong point. Can't tell now - need to get through the conventions and get some solid data sets. Go ahead and call it. You did pretty well on gas prices, although another fifty cent decline wouldn't bother me much. I still want to see who the Dems nominate. I'm telling you - there's going to be some fireworks at the Dem convention and it won't be pretty. I still think Hilary has something up her sleeve. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Which (heh - this is a good one) would mean that Biden is Obama's Cheney. :) Which, now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense. Exactly. The same thought crossed my mind earlier this morning. Eisboch |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:10:59 -0400, John H. salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:03:29 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:42:27 -0500, wrote: LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets, stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away. With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that was possible. Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17 points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis. Let's face it - President Dukakis wasn't going to happen anyway. Obama reminds me a lot of Dukakis actually - same prevarication, same intellectual approach to questions never giving a straight answer - same lack of practical experience in the real world. It's going to be a close race - maybe. I've been reading the breakouts on the polls and Obama is running way behind in some key demographics - even among union members which you would think is a strong point. Can't tell now - need to get through the conventions and get some solid data sets. Go ahead and call it. You did pretty well on gas prices, although another fifty cent decline wouldn't bother me much. I still want to see who the Dems nominate. I'm telling you - there's going to be some fireworks at the Dem convention and it won't be pretty. I still think Hilary has something up her sleeve. D'oh. A "demonstration" for Hillary has already been approved and announced by Obama, so, when it happens, you can tell us you were right. Here's an idea...write and install you know where some sort of "pre-approval" post checker, so that if someone actually writes and wants to put up a post, he can tell before he leaves whether the "moderator" is going to delete it. That might increase the post count, eh? Oh. Good job, Brownie. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Which (heh - this is a good one) would mean that Biden is Obama's Cheney. :) Which, now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense. Exactly. The same thought crossed my mind earlier this morning. Eisboch Except, of course, that if Obama is "weak" on foreign policy, he is strong in many other areas. Bush had and has no knowledge of anything except how to screw things up. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
"hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Which (heh - this is a good one) would mean that Biden is Obama's Cheney. :) Which, now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense. Exactly. The same thought crossed my mind earlier this morning. Eisboch Except, of course, that if Obama is "weak" on foreign policy, he is strong in many other areas. Bush had and has no knowledge of anything except how to screw things up. Obama isn't running against Bush. McCain, like Biden, has many years in the Senate. But, there won't be a direct matchup between McCain and Biden. Debates will be between Obama and McCain and Biden and whomever. In reality, nobody really pays attention to the VP contest. Eisboch |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Which (heh - this is a good one) would mean that Biden is Obama's Cheney. :) Which, now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense. Exactly. The same thought crossed my mind earlier this morning. Eisboch Except, of course, that if Obama is "weak" on foreign policy, he is strong in many other areas. Bush had and has no knowledge of anything except how to screw things up. Obama isn't running against Bush. McCain, like Biden, has many years in the Senate. But, there won't be a direct matchup between McCain and Biden. Debates will be between Obama and McCain and Biden and whomever. In reality, nobody really pays attention to the VP contest. Eisboch Please. Obama is running against Bush/McCain. It was the Bush policies that McCain supports that screwed up this country. Bush-Bush-Bush/McCain-McCain-McCain. Get used to it. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
"hk" wrote in message . .. Please. Obama is running against Bush/McCain. It was the Bush policies that McCain supports that screwed up this country. Bush-Bush-Bush/McCain-McCain-McCain. Get used to it. I don't think it's me that has to get used to it. Eisboch |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Please. Obama is running against Bush/McCain. It was the Bush policies that McCain supports that screwed up this country. Bush-Bush-Bush/McCain-McCain-McCain. Get used to it. I don't think it's me that has to get used to it. Eisboch OK. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Which (heh - this is a good one) would mean that Biden is Obama's Cheney. :) Which, now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense. Exactly. The same thought crossed my mind earlier this morning. Eisboch Except, of course, that if Obama is "weak" on foreign policy, he is strong in many other areas. Bush had and has no knowledge of anything except how to screw things up. Obama isn't running against Bush. McCain, like Biden, has many years in the Senate. But, there won't be a direct matchup between McCain and Biden. Debates will be between Obama and McCain and Biden and whomever. In reality, nobody really pays attention to the VP contest. Eisboch Please. Obama is running against Bush/McCain. It was the Bush policies that McCain supports that screwed up this country. Bush-Bush-Bush/McCain-McCain-McCain. Get used to it. I remember when Harry had complete respect and admiration for McCain, for his years of service to our country and the sacrifices he made as a POW, but that was when he said the republicans would never chose him as their candidate. It is amazing how some peoples values change. |
Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
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Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden
John H. wrote:
Go ahead and call it. You did pretty well on gas prices, although another fifty cent decline wouldn't bother me much. Warp17 won't see that price drop until they refill the tanks at his marina. |
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