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HK August 14th 08 08:53 PM

Troops vote with their wallers
 

If money talks, the troops are saying, ‘Vote Obama’
Posted August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

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Way back in September, we learned that Barack Obama and Ron Paul, who
don’t have too much in common, were the top two presidential candidates
when it came to financial support from U.S. troops.

It had a certain political salience — opponents of the war in Iraq took
note of the fact that the top two recipients of military donations went
to critics of the Bush policy — but it was still relatively early in the
process. Would the trend continue once the race grew more competitive?
Actually, yes.

The Center for Responsive Politics reported today that Obama has
received six times as much money from the troops as John McCain.

According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the
nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has
received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at
the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the
fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the
Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times
McCain’s haul.

Despite McCain’s status as a decorated veteran and a historically
Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services
overall — whether stationed overseas or at home — are also favoring
Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin.
Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has
gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the
presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.

Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of
California who studies the military, said, “That’s shocking. The
academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean
slightly Republican and some who say it’s about equal, but no one would
point to six-to-one” in Democrats’ favor. “That represents a tremendous
shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in
Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans.”

That last point is especially striking. Eight years ago, Bush outraised
Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. Four years ago, Kerry did
better, but Bush raised $1.50 for every dollar Kerry raised.

And now the numbers have shifted to Obama, in a big way.

There are bound to be competing explanations for this shift, but the CRP
report talked to one soldier who explained why he wrote a check for Obama.

Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq,
but it wasn’t over the Internet. “It took some effort to get that check.
I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in
Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in
Chicago, Illinois,” he said. “He was right on Iraq long when others were
jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that’s hard to do. We’re
soldiers and we respect courage.”

Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78
percent of employees’ total federal contributions going to members of
that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally
confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making
an exception in the presidential race. “Most of my friends are
conservative Republicans and they say, ‘I’m voting for Barack.’ McCain
does not have a lock on the military vote, that’s for sure,” he said.
“We’ll complete our duty — I’m deploying next year — because it’s a
commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know
that Iraq was a big mistake.”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/16555.html


HK August 14th 08 08:54 PM

Troops vote with their wallets
 
hk wrote:

If money talks, the troops are saying, ‘Vote Obama’
Posted August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

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Way back in September, we learned that Barack Obama and Ron Paul, who
don’t have too much in common, were the top two presidential candidates
when it came to financial support from U.S. troops.

It had a certain political salience — opponents of the war in Iraq took
note of the fact that the top two recipients of military donations went
to critics of the Bush policy — but it was still relatively early in the
process. Would the trend continue once the race grew more competitive?
Actually, yes.

The Center for Responsive Politics reported today that Obama has
received six times as much money from the troops as John McCain.

According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the
nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has
received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at
the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the
fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the
Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times
McCain’s haul.

Despite McCain’s status as a decorated veteran and a historically
Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services
overall — whether stationed overseas or at home — are also favoring
Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin.
Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has
gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the
presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.

Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of
California who studies the military, said, “That’s shocking. The
academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean
slightly Republican and some who say it’s about equal, but no one would
point to six-to-one” in Democrats’ favor. “That represents a tremendous
shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in
Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans.”

That last point is especially striking. Eight years ago, Bush outraised
Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. Four years ago, Kerry did
better, but Bush raised $1.50 for every dollar Kerry raised.

And now the numbers have shifted to Obama, in a big way.

There are bound to be competing explanations for this shift, but the CRP
report talked to one soldier who explained why he wrote a check for Obama.

Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq,
but it wasn’t over the Internet. “It took some effort to get that check.
I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in
Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in
Chicago, Illinois,” he said. “He was right on Iraq long when others were
jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that’s hard to do. We’re
soldiers and we respect courage.”

Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78
percent of employees’ total federal contributions going to members of
that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally
confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making
an exception in the presidential race. “Most of my friends are
conservative Republicans and they say, ‘I’m voting for Barack.’ McCain
does not have a lock on the military vote, that’s for sure,” he said.
“We’ll complete our duty — I’m deploying next year — because it’s a
commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know
that Iraq was a big mistake.”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/16555.html



That would be wallets, not wallers...

camacdonaldiii August 15th 08 02:14 AM

Troops vote with their wallets
 
On Aug 14, 2:54*pm, hk wrote:
hk wrote:

If money talks, the troops are saying, ‘Vote Obama’
Posted August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm


Share This | Spotlight | Permalink


Way back in September, we learned that Barack Obama and Ron Paul, who
don’t have too much in common, were the top two presidential candidates
when it came to financial support from U.S. troops.


It had a certain political salience — opponents of the war in Iraq took
note of the fact that the top two recipients of military donations went
to critics of the Bush policy — but it was still relatively early in the
process. Would the trend continue once the race grew more competitive?
Actually, yes.


The Center for Responsive Politics reported today that Obama has
received six times as much money from the troops as John McCain.


* * According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the
nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has
received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at
the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the
fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the
Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times
McCain’s haul.


* * Despite McCain’s status as a decorated veteran and a historically
Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services
overall — whether stationed overseas or at home — are also favoring
Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin.
Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has
gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the
presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.


Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of
California who studies the military, said, “That’s shocking. The
academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean
slightly Republican and some who say it’s about equal, but no one would
point to six-to-one” in Democrats’ favor. “That represents a tremendous
shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in
Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans.”


That last point is especially striking. Eight years ago, Bush outraised
Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. Four years ago, Kerry did
better, but Bush raised $1.50 for every dollar Kerry raised.


And now the numbers have shifted to Obama, in a big way.


There are bound to be competing explanations for this shift, but the CRP
report talked to one soldier who explained why he wrote a check for Obama.


* * Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq,
but it wasn’t over the Internet. “It took some effort to get that check.
I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in
Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in
Chicago, Illinois,” he said. “He was right on Iraq long when others were
jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that’s hard to do. We’re
soldiers and we respect courage.”


* * Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78
percent of employees’ total federal contributions going to members of
that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally
confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making
an exception in the presidential race. “Most of my friends are
conservative Republicans and they say, ‘I’m voting for Barack.’ McCain
does not have a lock on the military vote, that’s for sure,” he said.
“We’ll complete our duty — I’m deploying next year — because it’s a
commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know
that Iraq was a big mistake.”


http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/16555.html


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And that would be acreage, not small lot. Hope all goes well
overnight on the acreage. Do you have cattle rustlers in your parts?

HK August 15th 08 02:25 AM

Troops vote with their wallets
 
camacdonaldiii wrote:


And that would be acreage, not small lot. Hope all goes well
overnight on the acreage. Do you have cattle rustlers in your parts?




snerk


You really are a clueless little schitt.

BTW, I was talking to a neighbor of yours I met at a business meeting,
and he said that not only do most of your neighbors in the Atlanta area
have a restraining order out on you, but that you show up on a sexual
predators list, and it is a felony for you to be within 1000 feet of any
school.

See? I can make up better stories about you than you can about me.


Nice, eh?




[email protected] August 15th 08 02:25 AM

Troops vote with their wallets
 
On Aug 14, 9:14*pm, camacdonaldiii wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:54*pm, hk wrote:





hk wrote:


If money talks, the troops are saying, ‘Vote Obama’
Posted August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm


Share This | Spotlight | Permalink


Way back in September, we learned that Barack Obama and Ron Paul, who
don’t have too much in common, were the top two presidential candidates
when it came to financial support from U.S. troops.


It had a certain political salience — opponents of the war in Iraq took
note of the fact that the top two recipients of military donations went
to critics of the Bush policy — but it was still relatively early in the
process. Would the trend continue once the race grew more competitive?
Actually, yes.


The Center for Responsive Politics reported today that Obama has
received six times as much money from the troops as John McCain.


* * According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the
nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has
received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at
the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the
fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the
Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times
McCain’s haul.


* * Despite McCain’s status as a decorated veteran and a historically
Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services
overall — whether stationed overseas or at home — are also favoring
Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin.
Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has
gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the
presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.


Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of
California who studies the military, said, “That’s shocking. The
academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean
slightly Republican and some who say it’s about equal, but no one would
point to six-to-one” in Democrats’ favor. “That represents a tremendous
shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in
Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans.”


That last point is especially striking. Eight years ago, Bush outraised
Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. Four years ago, Kerry did
better, but Bush raised $1.50 for every dollar Kerry raised.


And now the numbers have shifted to Obama, in a big way.


There are bound to be competing explanations for this shift, but the CRP
report talked to one soldier who explained why he wrote a check for Obama.


* * Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq,
but it wasn’t over the Internet. “It took some effort to get that check.
I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in
Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in
Chicago, Illinois,” he said. “He was right on Iraq long when others were
jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that’s hard to do. We’re
soldiers and we respect courage.”


* * Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78
percent of employees’ total federal contributions going to members of
that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally
confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making
an exception in the presidential race. “Most of my friends are
conservative Republicans and they say, ‘I’m voting for Barack.’ McCain
does not have a lock on the military vote, that’s for sure,” he said.
“We’ll complete our duty — I’m deploying next year — because it’s a
commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know
that Iraq was a big mistake.”


http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/16555.html


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- Show quoted text -


And that would be acreage, not small lot. *Hope all goes well
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Cricket rustlers..

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 15th 08 02:29 AM

Troops vote with their wallers
 
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:53:47 -0400, hk wrote:

If money talks, the troops are saying, ‘Vote Obama’
Posted August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm


6:1 out of 334 donations. Wow.

"Individuals in the Air Force, Army, Navy and Marine Corps have all
leaned Republican this cycle, but the only branch in which that
ideology has carried over to the presidential race is the Marine
Corps, where McCain leads Obama by about $4,000."

Damn straight. :)

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008...d-give-61.html

Tim August 15th 08 02:47 AM

Troops vote with their wallers
 
On Aug 14, 2:53*pm, hk wrote:
If money talks, the troops are saying, ‘Vote Obama’
Posted August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

Share This | Spotlight | Permalink

Way back in September, we learned that Barack Obama and Ron Paul, who
don’t have too much in common, were the top two presidential candidates
when it came to financial support from U.S. troops.

It had a certain political salience — opponents of the war in Iraq took
note of the fact that the top two recipients of military donations went
to critics of the Bush policy — but it was still relatively early in the
process. Would the trend continue once the race grew more competitive?
Actually, yes.

The Center for Responsive Politics reported today that Obama has
received six times as much money from the troops as John McCain.

* * *According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the
nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has
received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at
the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the
fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the
Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times
McCain’s haul.

* * *Despite McCain’s status as a decorated veteran and a historically
Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services
overall — whether stationed overseas or at home — are also favoring
Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin.
Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has
gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the
presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.

Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of
California who studies the military, said, “That’s shocking. The
academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean
slightly Republican and some who say it’s about equal, but no one would
point to six-to-one” in Democrats’ favor. “That represents a tremendous
shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in
Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans.”

That last point is especially striking. Eight years ago, Bush outraised
Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. Four years ago, Kerry did
better, but Bush raised $1.50 for every dollar Kerry raised.

And now the numbers have shifted to Obama, in a big way.

There are bound to be competing explanations for this shift, but the CRP
report talked to one soldier who explained why he wrote a check for Obama..

* * *Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq,
but it wasn’t over the Internet. “It took some effort to get that check.
I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in
Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in
Chicago, Illinois,” he said. “He was right on Iraq long when others were
jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that’s hard to do. We’re
soldiers and we respect courage.”

* * *Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78
percent of employees’ total federal contributions going to members of
that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally
confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making
an exception in the presidential race. “Most of my friends are
conservative Republicans and they say, ‘I’m voting for Barack.’ McCain
does not have a lock on the military vote, that’s for sure,” he said.
“We’ll complete our duty — I’m deploying next year — because it’s a
commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know
that Iraq was a big mistake.”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/16555.html


"Troops vote with their wallers ..."

Huh? When I voted for Reagan, I used a ballot.

Tim August 15th 08 02:53 AM

Troops vote with their wallets
 
On Aug 14, 2:54*pm, hk wrote:
hk wrote:

If money talks, the troops are saying, ‘Vote Obama’
Posted August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm


Share This | Spotlight | Permalink


Way back in September, we learned that Barack Obama and Ron Paul, who
don’t have too much in common, were the top two presidential candidates
when it came to financial support from U.S. troops.


It had a certain political salience — opponents of the war in Iraq took
note of the fact that the top two recipients of military donations went
to critics of the Bush policy — but it was still relatively early in the
process. Would the trend continue once the race grew more competitive?
Actually, yes.


The Center for Responsive Politics reported today that Obama has
received six times as much money from the troops as John McCain.


* * According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the
nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has
received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at
the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the
fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the
Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times
McCain’s haul.


* * Despite McCain’s status as a decorated veteran and a historically
Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services
overall — whether stationed overseas or at home — are also favoring
Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin.
Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has
gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the
presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.


Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of
California who studies the military, said, “That’s shocking. The
academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean
slightly Republican and some who say it’s about equal, but no one would
point to six-to-one” in Democrats’ favor. “That represents a tremendous
shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in
Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans.”


That last point is especially striking. Eight years ago, Bush outraised
Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. Four years ago, Kerry did
better, but Bush raised $1.50 for every dollar Kerry raised.


And now the numbers have shifted to Obama, in a big way.


There are bound to be competing explanations for this shift, but the CRP
report talked to one soldier who explained why he wrote a check for Obama.


* * Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq,
but it wasn’t over the Internet. “It took some effort to get that check.
I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in
Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in
Chicago, Illinois,” he said. “He was right on Iraq long when others were
jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that’s hard to do. We’re
soldiers and we respect courage.”


* * Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78
percent of employees’ total federal contributions going to members of
that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally
confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making
an exception in the presidential race. “Most of my friends are
conservative Republicans and they say, ‘I’m voting for Barack.’ McCain
does not have a lock on the military vote, that’s for sure,” he said.
“We’ll complete our duty — I’m deploying next year — because it’s a
commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know
that Iraq was a big mistake.”


http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/16555.html


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Sorry Harry. I should have looked further.

Yes, you meant "wallets"

I still meant "ballot"


Even though lots of cash ahd poured into Barrak's coffers, still
there's beem more money thrown to the GOP, then the DNC, that is,
unless I'm missing something...

Obama, Barack $335,536 859
McCain, John $280,513 558
Paul, Ron $232,411 537
Clinton, Hillary $167,050 376
Republican National Cmte $135,902 219
Huckabee, Mike $66,751 127
Thompson, Fred $46,400 93
Romney, Mitt $43,307 96
Giuliani, Rudolph W $22,050 47
National Republican Senatorial Cmte $21,885 26
DNC Services Corp $16,873 53

camacdonaldiii August 15th 08 03:24 AM

Troops vote with their wallets
 
On Aug 14, 8:25*pm, hk wrote:
camacdonaldiii wrote:

And that would be acreage, not small lot. *Hope all goes well
overnight on the acreage. *Do you have cattle rustlers in your parts?


*snerk

You really are a clueless little schitt.

BTW, I was talking to a neighbor of yours I met at a business meeting,
and he said that not only do most of your neighbors in the Atlanta area
have a restraining order out on you, but that you show up on a sexual
predators list, and it is a felony for you to be within 1000 feet of any
school.

See? I can make up better stories about you than you can about me.

Nice, eh?


Yes, absolutely Harry, I believe in you creative ability to
fabricate. In fact, I think you hold the record for the most
fabrications in this group. Your “creativity” in this instance here
sounds a lot like some previous accusations you have hurled against
others. Could it be possible that your creative talents are slipping
a tad?

HK August 15th 08 11:49 AM

Troops vote with their wallets
 
camacdonaldiii wrote:
On Aug 14, 8:25 pm, hk wrote:
camacdonaldiii wrote:

And that would be acreage, not small lot. Hope all goes well
overnight on the acreage. Do you have cattle rustlers in your parts?
snerk


You really are a clueless little schitt.

BTW, I was talking to a neighbor of yours I met at a business meeting,
and he said that not only do most of your neighbors in the Atlanta area
have a restraining order out on you, but that you show up on a sexual
predators list, and it is a felony for you to be within 1000 feet of any
school.

See? I can make up better stories about you than you can about me.

Nice, eh?


Yes, absolutely Harry, I believe in you creative ability to
fabricate. In fact, I think you hold the record for the most
fabrications in this group. Your “creativity” in this instance here
sounds a lot like some previous accusations you have hurled against
others. Could it be possible that your creative talents are slipping
a tad?



Bucking for loogy's job as the dumbest foch in the newsgroup?

BTW, when you are in your sexual predator role, do you prefer little
boys or little girls?



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