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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:07:07 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
http://www.eisboch.com/ussny Two different ships there. LPD 21 is the USS New York. LPD 17? |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:31:17 -0500, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:07:07 -0400, Eisboch wrote: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny Two different ships there. LPD 21 is the USS New York. LPD 17? LPD 17 is the San Antonio. Interestingly, a previous USS New York, BB-34, had it's keel laid September 11, 1911. |
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On Aug 9, 9:45*am, hk wrote:
wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:07:07 -0400, Eisboch wrote: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny Two different ships there. *LPD 21 is the USS New York. *LPD 17? LPD 17 refers to the San Antonio, the first of that particular model, and the namesake for the class of amphibious transport dock ships. Interesting ship, but with very light defenses to ward off in-close attacks such as you might encounter when offloading. Not, however, as silly as the "stealth destroyer" (the DDG-1000 class), which was designed without the ability to fight off anti-ship missiles. Deputy Chief of Naval Operations (and Vice-Admiral) Barry McCullough said the "stealth" DDG-1000 "cannot perform area air defense" at all. $5 billion a copy. *Your tax dollars, ****ed away as usual by the DoD. In a perverse way, there is some good coming out of the proliferation of technology. Any semi-modern nation that wants them can develop or buy the weaponry needed to blow ships out of the water or planes out of the sky. As more and more nations get their hands on these goodies, more and more of them will realize that the way to real peace is not through warfare. $5 billion wasted on a useless ship. Imagine what you could do with $5 billion in some schitthole of a country where the population doesn't have housing, potable water, schools, medicine. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance. Well Good Morning Harry: How are things on your "acreage" this morning? |
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On Aug 9, 10:45*am, hk wrote:
wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:07:07 -0400, Eisboch wrote: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny Two different ships there. *LPD 21 is the USS New York. *LPD 17? LPD 17 refers to the San Antonio, the first of that particular model, and the namesake for the class of amphibious transport dock ships. Interesting ship, but with very light defenses to ward off in-close attacks such as you might encounter when offloading. Not, however, as silly as the "stealth destroyer" (the DDG-1000 class), which was designed without the ability to fight off anti-ship missiles. Deputy Chief of Naval Operations (and Vice-Admiral) Barry McCullough said the "stealth" DDG-1000 "cannot perform area air defense" at all. $5 billion a copy. *Your tax dollars, ****ed away as usual by the DoD. In a perverse way, there is some good coming out of the proliferation of technology. Any semi-modern nation that wants them can develop or buy the weaponry needed to blow ships out of the water or planes out of the sky. As more and more nations get their hands on these goodies, more and more of them will realize that the way to real peace is not through warfare. $5 billion wasted on a useless ship. Imagine what you could do with $5 billion in some schitthole of a country where the population doesn't have housing, potable water, schools, medicine. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance. Nice googling, asshole. |
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On Aug 9, 11:06*am, camacdonaldiii wrote:
On Aug 9, 9:45*am, hk wrote: wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:07:07 -0400, Eisboch wrote: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny Two different ships there. *LPD 21 is the USS New York. *LPD 17? LPD 17 refers to the San Antonio, the first of that particular model, and the namesake for the class of amphibious transport dock ships. Interesting ship, but with very light defenses to ward off in-close attacks such as you might encounter when offloading. Not, however, as silly as the "stealth destroyer" (the DDG-1000 class), which was designed without the ability to fight off anti-ship missiles. Deputy Chief of Naval Operations (and Vice-Admiral) Barry McCullough said the "stealth" DDG-1000 "cannot perform area air defense" at all. $5 billion a copy. *Your tax dollars, ****ed away as usual by the DoD.. In a perverse way, there is some good coming out of the proliferation of technology. Any semi-modern nation that wants them can develop or buy the weaponry needed to blow ships out of the water or planes out of the sky. As more and more nations get their hands on these goodies, more and more of them will realize that the way to real peace is not through warfare. $5 billion wasted on a useless ship. Imagine what you could do with $5 billion in some schitthole of a country where the population doesn't have housing, potable water, schools, medicine. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance. Well Good Morning Harry: *How are things on your "acreage" this morning?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - hehe!!!!! |
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"Eisboch" wrote in
: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny I got a better motto...... "HIDING THE EVIDENCE" Go download "September Clues" from alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, posted a few days ago. Your blood will boil! One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. Another network shows the SAME EXACT SHOT with this black plane flying into the tower just before it explodes. That might be a little odd, it being the SAME VIDEO. What's MOST striking is NEW JERSEY IS GONE! All you see behind the towers looks like white fog....no buildings, no river, NO NEW JERSEY! They put the two videos side by side in the documentary. Against the backdrop of New Jersey coming towards you at a lower altitude they point out a faint "object", that later in yet ANOTHER video looks like some kind of ball-shaped object from further doctoring of the picture, a faint "object" that looks strangely like someone electronically wiped out whatever was in the picture. But the object wiped out was MUCH smaller than the black plane dubbed into that second network's New Jersey-less image. I think they rubbed out the image of the MISSILE on its way into blow up the building.....and network two used the black plane, which in yet another shot overshoots the mark and runs THROUGH the building to VERY briefly stick out the other side, UNDAMAGED, before there is a little fade-to-black to try to cover up the screwup. ONE shot.....THREE different images, completely, sloppily done in a hurry to get it on the air. You must see this video and hear the expert commentary from aviation experts in it. I don't think there were any airplanes at all. The explosion wreaks of MISSILE and always has. The USS New York was a great way to hide the forensic evidence, but they didn't get it all. Search You Tube for "Steven Jones", a physics professor at Brigham Young University. He's an expert in THERMATE, like was in the basement floors under the towers..... Bush and Cheney should be arrested at the swearing in ceremony, even if it delights Harry. It's getting harder and harder to just poke your head in the sand on 9/11....and believe the lies from the TV Propaganda Machine the Third Reich would have been in awe of. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:50:04 +0000, Larry wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in m: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny I got a better motto...... "HIDING THE EVIDENCE" Go download "September Clues" from alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, posted a few days ago. Your blood will boil! One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. Another network shows the SAME EXACT SHOT with this black plane flying into the tower just before it explodes. That might be a little odd, it being the SAME VIDEO. What's MOST striking is NEW JERSEY IS GONE! All you see behind the towers looks like white fog....no buildings, no river, NO NEW JERSEY! They put the two videos side by side in the documentary. Against the backdrop of New Jersey coming towards you at a lower altitude they point out a faint "object", that later in yet ANOTHER video looks like some kind of ball-shaped object from further doctoring of the picture, a faint "object" that looks strangely like someone electronically wiped out whatever was in the picture. But the object wiped out was MUCH smaller than the black plane dubbed into that second network's New Jersey-less image. I think they rubbed out the image of the MISSILE on its way into blow up the building.....and network two used the black plane, which in yet another shot overshoots the mark and runs THROUGH the building to VERY briefly stick out the other side, UNDAMAGED, before there is a little fade-to-black to try to cover up the screwup. ONE shot.....THREE different images, completely, sloppily done in a hurry to get it on the air. You must see this video and hear the expert commentary from aviation experts in it. I don't think there were any airplanes at all. The explosion wreaks of MISSILE and always has. The USS New York was a great way to hide the forensic evidence, but they didn't get it all. Search You Tube for "Steven Jones", a physics professor at Brigham Young University. He's an expert in THERMATE, like was in the basement floors under the towers..... Bush and Cheney should be arrested at the swearing in ceremony, even if it delights Harry. It's getting harder and harder to just poke your head in the sand on 9/11....and believe the lies from the TV Propaganda Machine the Third Reich would have been in awe of. Larry, you really ought to stick to generators and stuff. Or, maybe, find a group that is really into far out ****. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:50:04 +0000, Larry wrote:
One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. I don't have to watch the video since the second plane hit the tower while I was watching. Trust me, there was a plane. Bits and pieces of it flew out the north side in the biggest fireball I've ever seen. Believe what you want. |
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I don't have to watch the video since the second plane hit the tower
while I was watching. Trust me, there was a plane. Bits and pieces of it flew out the north side in the biggest fireball I've ever seen. Believe what you want. See what happens when you don't wear your foil hat! Had you been wearing it, the aliens would not have been able to plant that image of the plane into your neural net! That'll learn ya! :) --Mike "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:50:04 +0000, Larry wrote: One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. I don't have to watch the video since the second plane hit the tower while I was watching. Trust me, there was a plane. Bits and pieces of it flew out the north side in the biggest fireball I've ever seen. Believe what you want. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in : http://www.eisboch.com/ussny I got a better motto...... "HIDING THE EVIDENCE" Go download "September Clues" from alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, posted a few days ago. Your blood will boil! One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. Another network shows the SAME EXACT SHOT with this black plane flying into the tower just before it explodes. That might be a little odd, it being the SAME VIDEO. What's MOST striking is NEW JERSEY IS GONE! All you see behind the towers looks like white fog....no buildings, no river, NO NEW JERSEY! They put the two videos side by side in the documentary. Against the backdrop of New Jersey coming towards you at a lower altitude they point out a faint "object", that later in yet ANOTHER video looks like some kind of ball-shaped object from further doctoring of the picture, a faint "object" that looks strangely like someone electronically wiped out whatever was in the picture. But the object wiped out was MUCH smaller than the black plane dubbed into that second network's New Jersey-less image. I think they rubbed out the image of the MISSILE on its way into blow up the building.....and network two used the black plane, which in yet another shot overshoots the mark and runs THROUGH the building to VERY briefly stick out the other side, UNDAMAGED, before there is a little fade-to-black to try to cover up the screwup. ONE shot.....THREE different images, completely, sloppily done in a hurry to get it on the air. You must see this video and hear the expert commentary from aviation experts in it. I don't think there were any airplanes at all. The explosion wreaks of MISSILE and always has. The USS New York was a great way to hide the forensic evidence, but they didn't get it all. Search You Tube for "Steven Jones", a physics professor at Brigham Young University. He's an expert in THERMATE, like was in the basement floors under the towers..... Bush and Cheney should be arrested at the swearing in ceremony, even if it delights Harry. It's getting harder and harder to just poke your head in the sand on 9/11....and believe the lies from the TV Propaganda Machine the Third Reich would have been in awe of. I watched some of the film you referenced. My impression is that the quality of pictures was *much* worse than anything I remember watching on live TV as the events unfolded. The trouble I have with most conspiracy *theories* is that it's very hard to keep so many people quiet for so long. |
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On Aug 9, 4:22*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in m: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny I got a better motto...... "HIDING THE EVIDENCE" Go download "September Clues" from alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, posted a few days ago. *Your blood will boil! One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. *It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. Another network shows the SAME EXACT SHOT with this black plane flying into the tower just before it explodes. *That might be a little odd, it being the SAME VIDEO. *What's MOST striking is NEW JERSEY IS GONE! *All you see behind the towers looks like white fog....no buildings, no river, NO NEW JERSEY! They put the two videos side by side in the documentary. *Against the backdrop of New Jersey coming towards you at a lower altitude they point out a faint "object", that later in yet ANOTHER video looks like some kind of ball-shaped object from further doctoring of the picture, a faint "object" that looks strangely like someone electronically wiped out whatever was in the picture. *But the object wiped out was MUCH smaller than the black plane dubbed into that second network's New Jersey-less image. I think they rubbed out the image of the MISSILE on its way into blow up the building.....and network two used the black plane, which in yet another shot overshoots the mark and runs THROUGH the building to VERY briefly stick out the other side, UNDAMAGED, before there is a little fade-to-black to try to cover up the screwup. ONE shot.....THREE different images, completely, sloppily done in a hurry to get it on the air. You must see this video and hear the expert commentary from aviation experts in it. *I don't think there were any airplanes at all. *The explosion wreaks of MISSILE and always has. The USS New York was a great way to hide the forensic evidence, but they didn't get it all. *Search You Tube for "Steven Jones", a physics professor at Brigham Young University. *He's an expert in THERMATE, like was in the basement floors under the towers..... Bush and Cheney should be arrested at the swearing in ceremony, even if it delights Harry. *It's getting harder and harder to just poke your head in the sand on 9/11....and believe the lies from the TV Propaganda Machine the Third Reich would have been in awe of. I watched some of the film you referenced. *My impression is that the quality of pictures was *much* worse than anything I remember watching on live TV as the events unfolded. The trouble I have with most conspiracy *theories* is that it's very hard to keep so many people quiet for so long.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, it's funny how some folks believe what they want to believe. After watching live, and seeing several angles with exactly the same plane, obviously moving through (not out) the building, they see one doctored film and automatically believe it because they want to.. ;) |
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On Aug 9, 4:22 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in : http://www.eisboch.com/ussny I got a better motto...... "HIDING THE EVIDENCE" Go download "September Clues" from alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, posted a few days ago. Your blood will boil! One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. Another network shows the SAME EXACT SHOT with this black plane flying into the tower just before it explodes. That might be a little odd, it being the SAME VIDEO. What's MOST striking is NEW JERSEY IS GONE! All you see behind the towers looks like white fog....no buildings, no river, NO NEW JERSEY! They put the two videos side by side in the documentary. Against the backdrop of New Jersey coming towards you at a lower altitude they point out a faint "object", that later in yet ANOTHER video looks like some kind of ball-shaped object from further doctoring of the picture, a faint "object" that looks strangely like someone electronically wiped out whatever was in the picture. But the object wiped out was MUCH smaller than the black plane dubbed into that second network's New Jersey-less image. I think they rubbed out the image of the MISSILE on its way into blow up the building.....and network two used the black plane, which in yet another shot overshoots the mark and runs THROUGH the building to VERY briefly stick out the other side, UNDAMAGED, before there is a little fade-to-black to try to cover up the screwup. ONE shot.....THREE different images, completely, sloppily done in a hurry to get it on the air. You must see this video and hear the expert commentary from aviation experts in it. I don't think there were any airplanes at all. The explosion wreaks of MISSILE and always has. The USS New York was a great way to hide the forensic evidence, but they didn't get it all. Search You Tube for "Steven Jones", a physics professor at Brigham Young University. He's an expert in THERMATE, like was in the basement floors under the towers..... Bush and Cheney should be arrested at the swearing in ceremony, even if it delights Harry. It's getting harder and harder to just poke your head in the sand on 9/11....and believe the lies from the TV Propaganda Machine the Third Reich would have been in awe of. I watched some of the film you referenced. My impression is that the quality of pictures was *much* worse than anything I remember watching on live TV as the events unfolded. The trouble I have with most conspiracy *theories* is that it's very hard to keep so many people quiet for so long.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, it's funny how some folks believe what they want to believe. After watching live, and seeing several angles with exactly the same plane, obviously moving through (not out) the building, they see one doctored film and automatically believe it because they want to.. ;) I wouldn't mind seeing Cheney arrested. I think Bush is mentally defective and ought to be allowed to return to Crawford, where he can choke on pretzels and booze. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance. |
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:07:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
http://www.eisboch.com/ussny Navy has really changed. Unless I steamed on her - or should I say dieseled - I can't comment. Except I always preferred ships with boilers and big guns sticking out here and there. But it looks like this a Jarhead ship anyway, so they have lots of little guns to make up for it - I guess. Probably have better food than what I was used to, since the cooks know most of crew can shoot them instead of just whacking them with a wrench. --Vic |
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On Aug 9, 3:44*pm, hk wrote:
wrote: On Aug 9, 4:22 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: "Larry" wrote in message . .. "Eisboch" wrote in news:V7WdnfaddcITOQDVnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d@giganews. com: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny I got a better motto...... "HIDING THE EVIDENCE" Go download "September Clues" from alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, posted a few days ago. *Your blood will boil! One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. *It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. Another network shows the SAME EXACT SHOT with this black plane flying into the tower just before it explodes. *That might be a little odd, it being the SAME VIDEO. *What's MOST striking is NEW JERSEY IS GONE! *All you see behind the towers looks like white fog....no buildings, no river, NO NEW JERSEY! They put the two videos side by side in the documentary. *Against the backdrop of New Jersey coming towards you at a lower altitude they point out a faint "object", that later in yet ANOTHER video looks like some kind of ball-shaped object from further doctoring of the picture, a faint "object" that looks strangely like someone electronically wiped out whatever was in the picture. *But the object wiped out was MUCH smaller than the black plane dubbed into that second network's New Jersey-less image. I think they rubbed out the image of the MISSILE on its way into blow up the building.....and network two used the black plane, which in yet another shot overshoots the mark and runs THROUGH the building to VERY briefly stick out the other side, UNDAMAGED, before there is a little fade-to-black to try to cover up the screwup. ONE shot.....THREE different images, completely, sloppily done in a hurry to get it on the air. You must see this video and hear the expert commentary from aviation experts in it. *I don't think there were any airplanes at all. *The explosion wreaks of MISSILE and always has. The USS New York was a great way to hide the forensic evidence, but they didn't get it all. *Search You Tube for "Steven Jones", a physics professor at Brigham Young University. *He's an expert in THERMATE, like was in the basement floors under the towers..... Bush and Cheney should be arrested at the swearing in ceremony, even if it delights Harry. *It's getting harder and harder to just poke your head in the sand on 9/11....and believe the lies from the TV Propaganda Machine the Third Reich would have been in awe of. I watched some of the film you referenced. *My impression is that the quality of pictures was *much* worse than anything I remember watching on live TV as the events unfolded. The trouble I have with most conspiracy *theories* is that it's very hard to keep so many people quiet for so long.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, it's funny how some folks believe what they want to believe. After watching live, and seeing several angles with exactly the same plane, obviously moving through (not out) the building, they see one doctored film and automatically believe it because they want to.. ;) I wouldn't mind seeing Cheney arrested. I think Bush is mentally defective and ought to be allowed to return to Crawford, where he can choke on pretzels and booze. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well hello again, Harry. How would you know anything about the "mentally defective?" |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:50:04 +0000, Larry wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in m: http://www.eisboch.com/ussny I got a better motto...... "HIDING THE EVIDENCE" Go download "September Clues" from alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, posted a few days ago. Your blood will boil! One TV network shows the Channel 4 helo shot of "plane 2" striking the 2nd tower. It's a clear day so you can see New Jersey laid out behind the towers, but you can't see any plane as the tower explodes. Another network shows the SAME EXACT SHOT with this black plane flying into the tower just before it explodes. That might be a little odd, it being the SAME VIDEO. What's MOST striking is NEW JERSEY IS GONE! All you see behind the towers looks like white fog....no buildings, no river, NO NEW JERSEY! They put the two videos side by side in the documentary. Against the backdrop of New Jersey coming towards you at a lower altitude they point Larry, Please watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34902101057550 I saw it live. There was a plane. What makes my blood boil is the crap from conspiracy theorists that doesn't have to be put to the same standards of truth as anything else before you believe it. Steve |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:30:46 GMT, Steve wrote:
I saw it live. There was a plane. What makes my blood boil is the crap from conspiracy theorists that doesn't have to be put to the same standards of truth as anything else before you believe it. Damn, there's two of us who saw a plane. This could be the beginning of a whole new conspiracy. Anyone else? |
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Steve wrote in news:dv9s94td67ethliai3r43sccugb4evs20q@
4ax.com: I saw it live. There was a plane. What makes my blood boil is the crap from conspiracy theorists that doesn't have to be put to the same standards of truth as anything else before you believe it. Steve So, why was it necessary to doctor so many videos? They've obviously been tampered with on the story of the age. Why is the plane black on one doctored video and white on another? Why do the planes just melt into the building? Thin sheet aluminum and airplane ribs are no match for the exoskeleton of the WTC specifically designed to deflect them....but we see clip after clip, played over and over that have planes melting that massive structure like a knife through soft butter and NOTHING in these videos shows ANY, NONE, not even the smallest part, boucing off the massive structure and falling away down the entry side of the building. How long did you watch this plane coming in and what color was it in your mind? The airlines are very shiny polished aluminum with massive advertising billboards on them all down the sides and up the tail. The planes on TV were smooth, mostly BLACK, in bright sunlight that SHOULD have lit their billboards up like Broadway on New Years Eve! Could you REALLY tell the difference in the flash of it you saw between an airliner and, say, a cruise missile?....which, by the way, makes that whining sound from its turbofan engine you heard in the recording studio's microphone, attenuated by the sound absorbing studio the open mike was in. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:25:30 +0000, Larry wrote:
Steve wrote in news:dv9s94td67ethliai3r43sccugb4evs20q@ 4ax.com: I saw it live. There was a plane. What makes my blood boil is the crap from conspiracy theorists that doesn't have to be put to the same standards of truth as anything else before you believe it. Steve So, why was it necessary to doctor so many videos? They've obviously been tampered with on the story of the age. Stick with generators, Larry. |
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Larry, I've got a spare hat if you need one.
--Mike "Larry" wrote in message ... Steve wrote in news:dv9s94td67ethliai3r43sccugb4evs20q@ 4ax.com: I saw it live. There was a plane. What makes my blood boil is the crap from conspiracy theorists that doesn't have to be put to the same standards of truth as anything else before you believe it. Steve So, why was it necessary to doctor so many videos? They've obviously been tampered with on the story of the age. Why is the plane black on one doctored video and white on another? Why do the planes just melt into the building? Thin sheet aluminum and airplane ribs are no match for the exoskeleton of the WTC specifically designed to deflect them....but we see clip after clip, played over and over that have planes melting that massive structure like a knife through soft butter and NOTHING in these videos shows ANY, NONE, not even the smallest part, boucing off the massive structure and falling away down the entry side of the building. How long did you watch this plane coming in and what color was it in your mind? The airlines are very shiny polished aluminum with massive advertising billboards on them all down the sides and up the tail. The planes on TV were smooth, mostly BLACK, in bright sunlight that SHOULD have lit their billboards up like Broadway on New Years Eve! Could you REALLY tell the difference in the flash of it you saw between an airliner and, say, a cruise missile?....which, by the way, makes that whining sound from its turbofan engine you heard in the recording studio's microphone, attenuated by the sound absorbing studio the open mike was in. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:44:29 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:30:46 GMT, Steve wrote: I saw it live. There was a plane. What makes my blood boil is the crap from conspiracy theorists that doesn't have to be put to the same standards of truth as anything else before you believe it. Damn, there's two of us who saw a plane. This could be the beginning of a whole new conspiracy. Anyone else? Here are 2 problems with people like Larry: 1) They're so eager to jump onto a conspiracy theorist's bandwagon that they're unwilling to hold the "evidence" presented to any level of standards of truth. For instance, in the "September Clues" video, when they're talking to the lady from Chealsea, they edit the audio and cut out things she said that go against their conspiracy theory. If that happened on the other side, the conspiracy theorists would be all over it. Yet Larry is willing to let that slide. There are *many* other examples of that. 2) They're like the little boy who cried wolf. I'm sure there really are conspiracies to deceive the public out there by all sorts of groups. But when people like Larry devote so much effort into something like "September Clues", which, to anyone with more than 2 brain cells and a synapse is so obviously somewhere right between a pile of poo and a crock of crap that can't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny, they lose all credibility for when they really do discover a true conspiracy. Steve |
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Eisboch wrote:
http://www.eisboch.com/ussny Very cool but some things look Photoshopped. Look at the "Never Forget" logo in both pictures, for example. |
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On Aug 9, 11:19*pm, Steve wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:44:29 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:30:46 GMT, Steve wrote: I saw it live. *There was a plane. *What makes my blood boil is the crap from conspiracy theorists that doesn't have to be put to the same standards of truth as anything else before you believe it. Damn, there's two of us who saw a plane. *This could be the beginning of a whole new conspiracy. Anyone else? Here are 2 problems with people like Larry: 1) They're so eager to jump onto a conspiracy theorist's bandwagon that they're unwilling to hold the "evidence" presented to any level of standards of truth. *For instance, in the "September Clues" video, when they're talking to the lady from Chealsea, they edit the audio and cut out things she said that go against their conspiracy theory. If that happened on the other side, the conspiracy theorists would be all over it. *Yet Larry is willing to let that slide. *There are *many* other examples of that. 2) They're like the little boy who cried wolf. *I'm sure there really are conspiracies to deceive the public out there by all sorts of groups. *But when people like Larry devote so much effort into something like "September Clues", which, to anyone with more than 2 brain cells and a synapse is so obviously somewhere right between a pile of poo and a crock of crap that can't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny, they lose all credibility for when they really do discover a true conspiracy. Steve Oh for Christ sake, there were people on the ground and in buildings that saw the planes. This whole idea is just retarted.. |
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