On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



It's all a huge conspiracy.

Yeah but, I you'll notice most, not all, conspiracy theories come into
being because there are so many holes in the original. By modern
standards, the Warren Commission Report on the Kennedy assassination left
lots to be desired. Perhaps, if the Bush administration had done a
better job of "selling" the war, if we had actually found some WMD, if
the "yellow cake" from Niger wasn't based on forged Italian documents, if
Saddam's ties to Al Qaeda were conclusive, we wouldn't have so many
"conspiracy theories". On the other hand, those that believe we never
landed on the moon, are just nuts. I have personally seen the Alurian
mothership that took Armstrong and Aldrin there when I was working at
Area 51.

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



It's all a huge conspiracy.

Yeah but, I you'll notice most, not all, conspiracy theories come into
being because there are so many holes in the original. By modern
standards, the Warren Commission Report on the Kennedy assassination left
lots to be desired. Perhaps, if the Bush administration had done a
better job of "selling" the war, if we had actually found some WMD, if
the "yellow cake" from Niger wasn't based on forged Italian documents, if
Saddam's ties to Al Qaeda were conclusive, we wouldn't have so many
"conspiracy theories". On the other hand, those that believe we never
landed on the moon, are just nuts. I have personally seen the Alurian
mothership that took Armstrong and Aldrin there when I was working at
Area 51.

You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:


You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War.

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.

On Aug 8, 8:57*am, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:
You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. *The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. *You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have *a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War. *

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. *Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. *Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.

So, in the six weeks leading up to the war, while France, Russia, and
China were stalling. What do you think was in the massive convoy that
left for Syria, and where did hundreds of Iraqui scientists go during
that time.. They have never been accounted for. Of course, the
democrats know as much as anyone, but are willing to throw Bush under
the bus, knowing he can't say anything without selling us out...
pffffttt....

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On Aug 8, 8:57 am, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:
You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.
No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War.

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.

So, in the six weeks leading up to the war, while France, Russia, and
China were stalling. What do you think was in the massive convoy that
left for Syria, and where did hundreds of Iraqui scientists go during
that time.. They have never been accounted for. Of course, the
democrats know as much as anyone, but are willing to throw Bush under
the bus, knowing he can't say anything without selling us out...
pffffttt....



Bush threw himself under the bus. If he were smart, he would have pushed
Cheney in front of a train.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:01:48 -0700, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


So, in the six weeks leading up to the war, while France, Russia, and
China were stalling. What do you think was in the massive convoy that
left for Syria, and where did hundreds of Iraqui scientists go during
that time.. They have never been accounted for. Of course, the democrats
know as much as anyone, but are willing to throw Bush under the bus,
knowing he can't say anything without selling us out... pffffttt....

Of course you know, Syria supported *Iran* in the Iran-Iraq War? Of
course you also know, Syria was part of the coalition against Iraq in the
1991 Gulf War? Of course you know, Syria was one of the countries that
tortured terrorism suspects for the CIA?

So, knowing all of this, explain to me, why, Syria would accept WMD, with
the world's superpower about to invade Iraq looking for them?

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:01:48 -0700, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


So, in the six weeks leading up to the war, while France, Russia, and
China were stalling. What do you think was in the massive convoy that
left for Syria, and where did hundreds of Iraqui scientists go during
that time.. They have never been accounted for. Of course, the democrats
know as much as anyone, but are willing to throw Bush under the bus,
knowing he can't say anything without selling us out... pffffttt....

Of course you know, Syria supported *Iran* in the Iran-Iraq War? Of
course you also know, Syria was part of the coalition against Iraq in the
1991 Gulf War? Of course you know, Syria was one of the countries that
tortured terrorism suspects for the CIA?

So, knowing all of this, explain to me, why, Syria would accept WMD, with
the world's superpower about to invade Iraq looking for them?



JustWait is calling Rush right now for a response.


--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:


You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War.

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.


I thought we passed the $500 billion mark a long time ago...




--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:03:18 -0400, hk wrote:


I thought we passed the $500 billion mark a long time ago...

I think that is what we have *spent* short term. Adding in the long
term, care of vets, federal debt interest, etc., I believe the number
will be @ $5 trillion.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:28:22 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:03:18 -0400, hk wrote:


I thought we passed the $500 billion mark a long time ago...

I think that is what we have *spent* short term. Adding in the long
term, care of vets, federal debt interest, etc., I believe the number
will be @ $5 trillion.

That's a meaningless number. Of course if you'll talking about Social
Security, which is still fiscally sound, you might use even a smaller
number to show that SS will be broke in 2098, can't be fixed, and
should be handed over to Wall Street right now to manage.
Uh huh.

--Vic