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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] August 3rd 08 07:41 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We’re hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313
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Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 3rd 08 07:57 PM

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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We’re hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?

D.Duck August 3rd 08 08:55 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


You don't need one "inside" an email program, just makes one less utility if
they are combined. With my terrible memory at this stage of my like I'm
forever having reminders popping up. You know like, time to eat lunch, time
to play golf, time to cut the grass, time to go fishing, on and on and on.

I've used Outlook for many years and have really come to rely on it. I
certainly don't use all it's features.



D.Duck August 3rd 08 08:55 PM

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"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote
in message . ..
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that is
similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better overall
user experience, much like Firefox 3. We’re hoping for a release in late
2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313
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This NG post is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and
grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to
be considered flaws or defects


Thanks for the tip.



HK August 3rd 08 09:01 PM

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D.Duck wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313

Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


You don't need one "inside" an email program, just makes one less utility if
they are combined. With my terrible memory at this stage of my like I'm
forever having reminders popping up. You know like, time to eat lunch, time
to play golf, time to cut the grass, time to go fishing, on and on and on.


....time to take your medications, time to change your depends...time to
remember to take your memory...what?


Eisboch August 3rd 08 09:08 PM

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"Larry" wrote in message
...


I like refurb'd computers because their parts are already burned in. Any
failures have ALREADY happened and the REFURB shop has already replaced
them. They are better than new....



You make a good point. Most failures in electronic devices will happen in
the initial hours of operation.
After that, they are usually good for the long haul.

Eisboch



Eisboch August 3rd 08 09:10 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch



D.Duck August 3rd 08 09:13 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:

Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch



It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)



D.Duck August 3rd 08 09:20 PM

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313
Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


You don't need one "inside" an email program, just makes one less utility
if they are combined. With my terrible memory at this stage of my like
I'm forever having reminders popping up. You know like, time to eat
lunch, time to play golf, time to cut the grass, time to go fishing, on
and on and on.


...time to take your medications, time to change your depends...time to
remember to take your memory...what?



Some of that too.



Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] August 3rd 08 09:20 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We’re hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] August 3rd 08 09:22 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313

Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch


Look at your watch, those numbers on the right hand side are calendar
dates.

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be considered flaws or defects

Eisboch August 3rd 08 09:24 PM

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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch



It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)


What boat? ......

oh, yea,,, *that boat* .....

I need directions.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 3rd 08 09:35 PM

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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:10:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:

Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?



What the hell is a "calendar"?


It's like a colander only with different letters.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 3rd 08 09:36 PM

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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:24:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch



It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)


What boat? ......

oh, yea,,, *that boat* .....

I need directions.


Turn left.

You'll get there eventually. :)

Vic Smith August 3rd 08 10:43 PM

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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:07:25 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that is
similar to Outlook?

Thunderbird has something called Sunbird. Reggie mentioned Lightning,
which I hadn't seen. I tested Sunbird, but rejected it.
I was looking for something with Outlook scheduling/reminding
capabilities but not e-mail, as I'm happy using Agent and Yahoo for
that.
I bought something recently that has
address/scheduling/calendar/reminders/passwords and invokes Agent for
e-mail sending.
Tested a lot of PIM's before getting it and am happy with it.
Though not perfect, the visual calendar and reminder functionality is
what I was after. Still would do a couple things differently if I was
writing it for myself, but I don't want to do that.
The computer/human interface issue is fraught with personal
preferences.
I was looking for something close to the Outlook "feel" for
scheduling/reminders without the overhead and unneeded stuff.
Got used to Outlook at work, but what I bought is much more suited to
home use. It's a free download/trial. But it's not an e-mail client.

--Vic

[email protected] August 3rd 08 10:47 PM

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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:43:25 -0500, Vic Smith wrote:

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:07:25 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that is
similar to Outlook?

Thunderbird has something called Sunbird. Reggie mentioned Lightning,
which I hadn't seen. I tested Sunbird, but rejected it. I was looking
for something with Outlook scheduling/reminding capabilities but not
e-mail, as I'm happy using Agent and Yahoo for that.
I bought something recently that has
address/scheduling/calendar/reminders/passwords and invokes Agent for
e-mail sending.
Tested a lot of PIM's before getting it and am happy with it. Though not
perfect, the visual calendar and reminder functionality is what I was
after. Still would do a couple things differently if I was writing it
for myself, but I don't want to do that. The computer/human interface
issue is fraught with personal preferences.
I was looking for something close to the Outlook "feel" for
scheduling/reminders without the overhead and unneeded stuff. Got used
to Outlook at work, but what I bought is much more suited to home use.
It's a free download/trial. But it's not an e-mail client.

--Vic


Ah, come on, give us a hint. ;-)

D.Duck August 3rd 08 10:50 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch



It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)


What boat? ......

oh, yea,,, *that boat* .....

I need directions.

Eisboch



Google maps.



D.Duck August 3rd 08 10:53 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:07:25 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that is
similar to Outlook?

Thunderbird has something called Sunbird. Reggie mentioned Lightning,
which I hadn't seen. I tested Sunbird, but rejected it.
I was looking for something with Outlook scheduling/reminding
capabilities but not e-mail, as I'm happy using Agent and Yahoo for
that.
I bought something recently that has
address/scheduling/calendar/reminders/passwords and invokes Agent for
e-mail sending.
Tested a lot of PIM's before getting it and am happy with it.
Though not perfect, the visual calendar and reminder functionality is
what I was after. Still would do a couple things differently if I was
writing it for myself, but I don't want to do that.
The computer/human interface issue is fraught with personal
preferences.
I was looking for something close to the Outlook "feel" for
scheduling/reminders without the overhead and unneeded stuff.
Got used to Outlook at work, but what I bought is much more suited to
home use. It's a free download/trial. But it's not an e-mail client.

--Vic


Pretty please. At least a few letters in it's name.



Vic Smith August 3rd 08 11:04 PM

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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:58:56 GMT, John H.
wrote:

Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks. Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?


Looks like you got some.
Did you get a laptop because you can use it on the road?
Never had one myself except what my job provided.
I hated that thing, mostly because of the keyboard.
Thinking a laptop with wireless internet might come in handy for
traveling though. Since I only vacation a couple weeks a year,
I haven't felt the need. But that might change.

--Vic

Jim August 3rd 08 11:07 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:

Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch

It's kind of like a paper clock that counts days instead of hours. You do
remember what a clock is, right?


Jim August 3rd 08 11:09 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:24:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch


It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)


What boat? ......

oh, yea,,, *that boat* .....

I need directions.


Turn left.

You'll get there eventually. :)


No NO Never turn left. Always turn right. You will save gas.


Vic Smith August 3rd 08 11:28 PM

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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:53:01 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Pretty please. At least a few letters in it's name.

Good. Since I was asked I won't be accused of spamming.
C-Organizer Pro.
Few things I would improve on.
1. More calendar views - only has monthly.
2. Birthdays in address book can throw reminders, but don't bold on
calendar. Solution: Make BD a recurring appointment. That bolds it.
3. Hot button to invoke e-mail client for an address entry sometimes
doesn't work. That's a bug to me, but no big deal. I'll eventually
find out what's causing it, or there will be a patch.

Every thing else works fine, and the reminders have already "saved my
ass" a couple times.
I've got most of my stuff in there now, and the import from CSV is the
slickest I've seen, and I tested at least 30 PIM's.
Easy to customize address book contents, so every family member and
friend doesn't have a bunch of empty "business" fields.
This is the only one that allowed easy import from Excel, where I had
most of my stuff. The links to banking/business sites are now in
there too.
Anyway, it's free to try, and works for me.

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 3rd 08 11:43 PM

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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:09:11 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:24:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch


It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)


What boat? ......

oh, yea,,, *that boat* .....

I need directions.


Turn left.

You'll get there eventually. :)


No NO Never turn left. Always turn right. You will save gas.


Not according to UPS. :)

Jim August 3rd 08 11:49 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:09:11 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:24:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch


It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)


What boat? ......

oh, yea,,, *that boat* .....

I need directions.

Turn left.

You'll get there eventually. :)


No NO Never turn left. Always turn right. You will save gas.


Not according to UPS. :)


Check your facts. :-)


D.Duck August 3rd 08 11:50 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:24:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



What the hell is a "calendar"?

Eisboch


It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. 8)


What boat? ......

oh, yea,,, *that boat* .....

I need directions.


Turn left.

You'll get there eventually. :)


No NO Never turn left. Always turn right. You will save gas.



Then why doesn't NASCAR turn right?



D.Duck August 3rd 08 11:51 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:53:01 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Pretty please. At least a few letters in it's name.

Good. Since I was asked I won't be accused of spamming.
C-Organizer Pro.
Few things I would improve on.
1. More calendar views - only has monthly.
2. Birthdays in address book can throw reminders, but don't bold on
calendar. Solution: Make BD a recurring appointment. That bolds it.
3. Hot button to invoke e-mail client for an address entry sometimes
doesn't work. That's a bug to me, but no big deal. I'll eventually
find out what's causing it, or there will be a patch.

Every thing else works fine, and the reminders have already "saved my
ass" a couple times.
I've got most of my stuff in there now, and the import from CSV is the
slickest I've seen, and I tested at least 30 PIM's.
Easy to customize address book contents, so every family member and
friend doesn't have a bunch of empty "business" fields.
This is the only one that allowed easy import from Excel, where I had
most of my stuff. The links to banking/business sites are now in
there too.
Anyway, it's free to try, and works for me.

--Vic


Thanks for the info.



[email protected] August 4th 08 12:29 AM

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On Aug 3, 6:50*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:24:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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What the hell is a "calendar"?


Eisboch


It's used to remind you when to go to your boat. *8)


What boat? * ......


oh, yea,,, **that boat* .....


I need directions.


Turn left.


You'll get there eventually. *:)


No NO Never turn left. Always turn right. You will save gas.


Then why doesn't NASCAR turn right?- Hide quoted text -

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Well, it started with rednecks in the south.. and they just forgot.. ;)

DK August 4th 08 02:24 AM

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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:05:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks. Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?

Depending on what she'll use if for it may be over-kill.


Yeahbut, she likes it. We skipped the extra gig of RAM. Seems it has only
two slots, one with two gigs, the other with one gig. In order to upgrade
to 4 gigs, I'd have to trash one gig and buy two. Hell with it. We'll see
how it works with only three.


Good luck with Vista! I can still get XP Pro at a decent price if you
want to scrap that OS.

D.Duck August 4th 08 01:49 PM

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"DK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:05:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks.
Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?
Depending on what she'll use if for it may be over-kill.


Yeahbut, she likes it. We skipped the extra gig of RAM. Seems it has only
two slots, one with two gigs, the other with one gig. In order to upgrade
to 4 gigs, I'd have to trash one gig and buy two. Hell with it. We'll see
how it works with only three.


Good luck with Vista! I can still get XP Pro at a decent price if you
want to scrap that OS.


Newegg, OEM?



Canuck57[_3_] August 4th 08 07:42 PM

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"Larry" wrote in message
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John H. wrote in
:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:29:00 +0000, Larry wrote:

John H. wrote in
:

Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks.
Best Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and
router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?


Too much....Buy a Gateway and get more computer for half the price.


Too late. What does Gateway have that's better for $500?


http://www.buy.com/prod/gateway-m-67...duo-processor-
t5450-3072-mb-250/q/loc/101/208033962.html

$1300 computer, refurbished, for $579. This isn't a laptop, it's a
mainframe in a laptop case....an amazing machine.

I like refurb'd computers because their parts are already burned in. Any
failures have ALREADY happened and the REFURB shop has already replaced
them. They are better than new....

read the reviews....there's 57 of them at Best Buy, alone and it gets over
4 stars out of 5.

Computers this fast should come with seatbelts....(c;


For XP laptop, I like AMD X2. Call me nuts but like them a lot.



DK August 5th 08 12:59 AM

Sony laptops?
 
D.Duck wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:05:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks.
Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?
Depending on what she'll use if for it may be over-kill.
Yeahbut, she likes it. We skipped the extra gig of RAM. Seems it has only
two slots, one with two gigs, the other with one gig. In order to upgrade
to 4 gigs, I'd have to trash one gig and buy two. Hell with it. We'll see
how it works with only three.

Good luck with Vista! I can still get XP Pro at a decent price if you
want to scrap that OS.


Newegg, OEM?



Haven't checked them in a while. They are a great source for hardware.
I've never bought software from them.

The guys that handle our IT have OEM still available.

John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 01:03 AM

Sony laptops?
 
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We’re hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.

John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 01:05 AM

Sony laptops?
 
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:09:06 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:27:44 GMT, "Canuck57"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:30:29 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:14:41 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks.
Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?
Unless she likes laptop keyboards and pointing devices I would
suggest
an
external keyboard and mouse, either USB or wireless if you don't mind
fooling with batteries. I don't have a wireless keyboard but have
wireless
mice on two computers. The one that is used extensively gets 2~3
months
from a set of quality alkaline batteries.

She's never had a laptop, and neither have I. We'll see how she does
with
the built in stuff. I'd have to have the external mouse, as I can't
stand
that rubbing the pad stuff.

The keyboard and mouse just plug in via USB cables. While a 16" wide
screen, you don't really need it, but if you want you can also use a
larger monitor and use the laptop as a CPU when she is at her desk. I
am a few years away from buying a new computer, but I am really leaning
towards buying a Mac and MacPro laptop. My son and my youngest girl
will buy a Mac Laptop in the next month. You can get a 10% discount and
a Ipod Touch for any students or teachers, so your wife would qualify.
I think they are both leaning towards the 13" laptop to make it easy to
carry, and then use a larger monitor and keyboard in their dorm.

My wife's never taught, but she doesn't want an Apple. We put the money
on
the Sony last night, before the sale went off. So she'll learn to be
happy
with what she's got.

Right now she thinks it's a pretty cool birthday present. The big
disadvantage to the whole thing is Vista. I saw a little demonstrated by
the guy in the store, but I wasn't too impressed. Very flashy though.

New users to Vista generally fair better than seasoned users as many of
Vista's defects you would not know without previous experience with at
least
XP. For example, record a 4GB video file and copy it around in XP goes
about 6-10 times faster than Vista. But never having done that on a
computer, you are more likely to find 20 minute copies of big files
acceptable not knowing XP can do in 2m30s and Linux in under 2m. Mac, I
don't know but never heard of copy speed complaints. Similarly with Vista
premium on a high speed home network.


I'm keeping XP on the desktop, and will get XP on my next desktop, if
possible. My wife will have to suffer with the Vista problems, but she may
not know the difference anyway.


You might want to consider ditching Vista and installing XP on the new
laptop.


So far she hasn't complained about Vista. My neighbor is an IT guy with the
Post Office, and he's been helping her get it all set up. She's quite happy
with it.

D.Duck August 9th 08 01:55 AM

Sony laptops?
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313

Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/



D.Duck August 9th 08 01:57 AM

Sony laptops?
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:09:06 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:27:44 GMT, "Canuck57"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:30:29 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:14:41 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple
weeks.
Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and
router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?
Unless she likes laptop keyboards and pointing devices I would
suggest
an
external keyboard and mouse, either USB or wireless if you don't
mind
fooling with batteries. I don't have a wireless keyboard but have
wireless
mice on two computers. The one that is used extensively gets 2~3
months
from a set of quality alkaline batteries.

She's never had a laptop, and neither have I. We'll see how she does
with
the built in stuff. I'd have to have the external mouse, as I can't
stand
that rubbing the pad stuff.

The keyboard and mouse just plug in via USB cables. While a 16" wide
screen, you don't really need it, but if you want you can also use a
larger monitor and use the laptop as a CPU when she is at her desk. I
am a few years away from buying a new computer, but I am really
leaning
towards buying a Mac and MacPro laptop. My son and my youngest girl
will buy a Mac Laptop in the next month. You can get a 10% discount
and
a Ipod Touch for any students or teachers, so your wife would qualify.
I think they are both leaning towards the 13" laptop to make it easy
to
carry, and then use a larger monitor and keyboard in their dorm.

My wife's never taught, but she doesn't want an Apple. We put the
money
on
the Sony last night, before the sale went off. So she'll learn to be
happy
with what she's got.

Right now she thinks it's a pretty cool birthday present. The big
disadvantage to the whole thing is Vista. I saw a little demonstrated
by
the guy in the store, but I wasn't too impressed. Very flashy though.

New users to Vista generally fair better than seasoned users as many of
Vista's defects you would not know without previous experience with at
least
XP. For example, record a 4GB video file and copy it around in XP goes
about 6-10 times faster than Vista. But never having done that on a
computer, you are more likely to find 20 minute copies of big files
acceptable not knowing XP can do in 2m30s and Linux in under 2m. Mac, I
don't know but never heard of copy speed complaints. Similarly with
Vista
premium on a high speed home network.


I'm keeping XP on the desktop, and will get XP on my next desktop, if
possible. My wife will have to suffer with the Vista problems, but she
may
not know the difference anyway.


You might want to consider ditching Vista and installing XP on the new
laptop.


So far she hasn't complained about Vista. My neighbor is an IT guy with
the
Post Office, and he's been helping her get it all set up. She's quite
happy
with it.


What ever works for her. I'm so into WinXP and I have found no compelling
reason to switch.



[email protected] August 9th 08 02:06 AM

Sony laptops?
 
On Aug 8, 8:55*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...





On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?


They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.


*From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.


I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.


When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. *It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. *I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My wife and some of her peers have written mods on our servers for
Spam Assassin (TM) and Spam Cop (TM) that pick up several million
spams a day for our clients, they never even get through the POP
server. They have sold the packages to several other providers, it
works great. My smallboats account which has been active since the
early 90's gets maybe 2-4 spams a day getting through on a bad day. If
not for the filters, I would get thousands just on that account
alone... It should be on your service provider to stop spam, they
could, but there are a lot of reasons they don't ;)

Note: We do not own Spam Cop or Spam Assassin, just the mods...

D.Duck August 9th 08 02:20 AM

Sony laptops?
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 8:55 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...





On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar
that
is similar to Outlook?


They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.


From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.


I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.


When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes
a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My wife and some of her peers have written mods on our servers for
Spam Assassin (TM) and Spam Cop (TM) that pick up several million
spams a day for our clients, they never even get through the POP
server. They have sold the packages to several other providers, it
works great. My smallboats account which has been active since the
early 90's gets maybe 2-4 spams a day getting through on a bad day. If
not for the filters, I would get thousands just on that account
alone... It should be on your service provider to stop spam, they
could, but there are a lot of reasons they don't ;)

Note: We do not own Spam Cop or Spam Assassin, just the mods...

==================================

I don't think Embarq, my ISP, would listen to any suggestions from me, so I
just have to be my own first line of defense. SpamBayes is extremely
effective.



John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 02:14 PM

Sony laptops?
 
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:55:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313

Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?

I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/


I'm using Mailwasher, which I like very much. However, while I was away and
my wife's computer was getting set up, something got changed and Mailwasher
is acting strangely.

It used to take the messages off the server when I downloaded them with
Outlook. Now I'm having to go back into Mailwasher and delete the messages.
I'd thought there was a quick setting for this somewhere, but I can't find
it.

Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC August 9th 08 03:44 PM

Sony laptops?
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:55:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313
Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?
I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.
Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.

If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/


I'm using Mailwasher, which I like very much. However, while I was away and
my wife's computer was getting set up, something got changed and Mailwasher
is acting strangely.

It used to take the messages off the server when I downloaded them with
Outlook. Now I'm having to go back into Mailwasher and delete the messages.
I'd thought there was a quick setting for this somewhere, but I can't find
it.


You need to uninstall Mailwasher, and then reinstall it. I would also
do a search on Mailwasher and delete the Mailwasher folders.

John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 04:05 PM

Sony laptops?
 
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:44:01 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald
P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:55:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313
Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?
I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.
Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.
If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/


I'm using Mailwasher, which I like very much. However, while I was away and
my wife's computer was getting set up, something got changed and Mailwasher
is acting strangely.

It used to take the messages off the server when I downloaded them with
Outlook. Now I'm having to go back into Mailwasher and delete the messages.
I'd thought there was a quick setting for this somewhere, but I can't find
it.


You need to uninstall Mailwasher, and then reinstall it. I would also
do a search on Mailwasher and delete the Mailwasher folders.


I'll do the uninstall bit. Which version do you have? I'm using 5.2, but
6.1 is out now. I'm seeing that people are having problems with it running
very slow, so I've not downloaded the upgrade yet.


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