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[email protected] August 2nd 08 04:57 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
On Aug 2, 11:43*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
hk wrote:

Congratulations to you and your wife.


Nice pics!


The bird on the twig photo was nice. The rest were pedestrian, at best.


Harry,
I have to agree with you, my wife is very creative, and her photos
reflect that. *I am just struggling along trying to take a photo that
someone will say if pedestrian at best. *I am a rookie, without an
artistic bone in my body. * I have to take a lot of photos just to get
some half ass snapshots, but I enjoy it, which really has surprised me.
* I purchased the D50 for my wife, and had no intention of using the
camera at all. *After 6 months, I had to get my own camera and purchased
the D200.
This has become a hobby that both of us can enjoy
together. *With my youngest going to Emory this year, it is nice for the
two of us to be able to enjoy something together.

Boating has always been something my kids and I enjoyed. *My wife liked
it because it gave her quiet time at home.


Wafa is just jelous that you have found a hobby that you and your mate
love together.. I have never seen evidence wafa does anything with his
wife. Maybe she watches him watch girls crotchshot ball on the tube.

[email protected] August 2nd 08 05:00 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
On Aug 2, 11:56*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Jim wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote in messagenews:RcOdnS1ldMjO5gnVnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@comca st.com...
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


Very nice, I like the depth of field work on your wife's bird picture!


She shot this with a 70-200mm 2.8 with a 1.7 Converter. *This was a
hand held shot and even with the telephoto with converter, it was
fairly sharp. * That is the beauty of the VR feature. *The fast lens
does a great job on the DOF and really makes a nice bokeh.


My wife and I see the world so completely different. *When I took the
horse photos, I was amazed at the strength and beauty of the animals.
She is actually scared of horses, but what she saw was the sadness of
them being in their stalls.


Here is her photo submission of her horse photo. *The photographer of
each photo is not revealed till after the competition, so no one knows
who took the photos. * This was her digital submission, and when they
flashed the image on the screen, it touched a number of woman behind
us. Based upon those women's reaction, I thought this would have
gotten a ribbon.


http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...ots/InJail.jpg


It is amazing how different my wife's photos are. *She is much more
creative than I am, and when we come back from taking photos, it is
amazing how different our photos look.


Harry's keen eye picked up on your pedestrian work. Maybe he'll give you
some tips some time so that you can take fine snapshots like he does.


The only photo Harry ever posted online that I really liked was an owl
photo taken in a Florida State Park.

I was really impressed by the sharpness, composition and exposure. *It
looked like it was taken with a 500-600 mm pro lens. * I was surprised
when I found the exact same photo in a professional wildlife
photographer's *blog. *I am not sure, but either the photographer stole
Harry's image or Harry stole his image. *I know if I was Harry and a pro
stole my image I would have raised hell.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I liked the picture of stumpy. Not the dead tree, but the stump little
finger in the picture of a postcard.. pfffft.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 2nd 08 05:01 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:16:56 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

My wife and I took home 4 ribbons last night's photo competition.

There were about about 75 B&W, 100 color print and digital photos
submitted for the 3 different categories. You are allowed to submit up
to 2 photos for B&W and Color and one photo for the Digital Submission.
I was blown away that we took home one Honorable Mention, one 4th
place, one 3rd place and a 2nd Place.

2nd place

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...rent=2ndbw.jpg

I touched this up some after the comments made in rec.boats. I do
appreciate your help.


I'd like to see what the First Place photo was - you did a nice job
tweaking that image. The gray scaling is brilliant - you have a nice
feel for graduation and impression.

No offense, I still think you've done better work though - in
particular with your initial portraits.

4th Place I almost didn't submit this one, I thought there would be a
ton of similar photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...t=4thplace.jpg

A photo, I really liked, but it did not ribbon. The pro thought it
would be a much better photo if the girl was interacting with the
penguin. I thought her shy look made the photo.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...twascute. jpg


You can see what he's talking about by comparing the two images. The
gorilla is interacting with something on camera - the girl is
interacting with something off camera.

The second problem with the penguin image is that there are two
subjects - the girl and the penguin. There is nothing to link the two
together - zip, nada.

He's dead on with that critique.

For reference, look back at your initial efforts with the portraits at
the Atlanta fountain and environs. Those, while initial, were simply
outstanding because they showed some sort of "story" - there was
interaction between the environment and the individuals. Even in the
single framed portraits, the subjects were inteacting with you which
was a very obvious impression when the images were tweaked.

An ordinary flower and bee photo that my wife said I should submit. No
ribbon.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...=noribbon1.jpg


Deservedly so I would say - there is nothing special about that image.

My wife's two ribbon photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...fe3rdplace.jpg
http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...blemention.jpg


This is something that annoys the heck out of me - the extreme framing
right or left. It works somewhat with the bird because of the branch
being in focus and at a slight angle to the rest of the frame - gives
you some reference points.

I've always gone with the thirds protocol in situations like this -
you divide the framing up into thirds and if you are going to offset
the image right or left, tend to keep the subject in focus towards the
middle of the second third (right or left).

Having said that, I think it would have been a much better image if
the bird had been moved left more towards the center of the frame
still keeping in within the 2nd third of the image (if divided into
thirds) and the background branch cloned out as it's distracting from
the subject - in my opinion.

Same with the spider on the flower which I don't like at all - too
much blank space to the left. I think it would have worked much
better if Mrs. Reggie had used a macro lens and got right in there
with the spider using the flower as background.

To be honest, you've done better work - the marina pier lights would
have been a winner even converted to B&W. And you might want to try
that montage/collage deal with the horse next contest - graduated
images are always interesting.

And having said all that, I've got to hand it to you - you have a gift
for this - congratulations.

John H.[_5_] August 2nd 08 05:04 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:51:14 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:16:56 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

My wife and I took home 4 ribbons last night's photo competition.

There were about about 75 B&W, 100 color print and digital photos
submitted for the 3 different categories. You are allowed to submit up
to 2 photos for B&W and Color and one photo for the Digital Submission.
I was blown away that we took home one Honorable Mention, one 4th
place, one 3rd place and a 2nd Place.

2nd place

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...rent=2ndbw.jpg

I touched this up some after the comments made in rec.boats. I do
appreciate your help.


Yes. It's stunning.
4th Place I almost didn't submit this one, I thought there would be a
ton of similar photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...t=4thplace.jpg


Another nice photo.
A photo, I really liked, but it did not ribbon. The pro thought it
would be a much better photo if the girl was interacting with the
penguin. I thought her shy look made the photo.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...twascute. jpg


I think I'd have to agree with the pro. It looks like too much dead space
in the middle of the photo.
An ordinary flower and bee photo that my wife said I should submit. No
ribbon.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...=noribbon1.jpg

My wife's two ribbon photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...fe3rdplace.jpg
http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...blemention.jpg


She's obviously having a ball with her D50! Very nice photos. My wife
hasn't used her D50 much, complaining that it's too big. Plus, she's always
making me lug the D200.

What lens was your wife using?

JohnH,
The bird was the Nikon 70-200mm VR with a 1.7 converter. The horse was
the 70-200mm VR. I think the flower/spider photo was a Nikon 105mm VR
macro. I purchased another 18-200mm because we both wanted to use that
lens. If you really need a fast lens, the 70-200 is great, but the
18-200 is much easier to lug around.


I've got the 18-200 and love it. Now that Nikon fixed the focus problems it
works well.

That 70-200 is a beautiful lens, if this is the one;

http://www.diduprice.com/stores.asp?productid=2139

But, it is a little on the big side. I've not taken it on any trips. Your
trip out west, that you mentioned to Russ, sounds like fun.

Retirement is a bitch. So little time, so many things to do!

HK August 2nd 08 05:05 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:16:56 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

My wife and I took home 4 ribbons last night's photo competition.

There were about about 75 B&W, 100 color print and digital photos
submitted for the 3 different categories. You are allowed to submit up
to 2 photos for B&W and Color and one photo for the Digital Submission.
I was blown away that we took home one Honorable Mention, one 4th
place, one 3rd place and a 2nd Place.

2nd place

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...rent=2ndbw.jpg

I touched this up some after the comments made in rec.boats. I do
appreciate your help.


I'd like to see what the First Place photo was - you did a nice job
tweaking that image. The gray scaling is brilliant - you have a nice
feel for graduation and impression.

No offense, I still think you've done better work though - in
particular with your initial portraits.

4th Place I almost didn't submit this one, I thought there would be a
ton of similar photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...t=4thplace.jpg

A photo, I really liked, but it did not ribbon. The pro thought it
would be a much better photo if the girl was interacting with the
penguin. I thought her shy look made the photo.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...twascute. jpg


You can see what he's talking about by comparing the two images. The
gorilla is interacting with something on camera - the girl is
interacting with something off camera.

The second problem with the penguin image is that there are two
subjects - the girl and the penguin. There is nothing to link the two
together - zip, nada.

He's dead on with that critique.

For reference, look back at your initial efforts with the portraits at
the Atlanta fountain and environs. Those, while initial, were simply
outstanding because they showed some sort of "story" - there was
interaction between the environment and the individuals. Even in the
single framed portraits, the subjects were inteacting with you which
was a very obvious impression when the images were tweaked.

An ordinary flower and bee photo that my wife said I should submit. No
ribbon.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...=noribbon1.jpg


Deservedly so I would say - there is nothing special about that image.

My wife's two ribbon photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...fe3rdplace.jpg
http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...blemention.jpg


This is something that annoys the heck out of me - the extreme framing
right or left. It works somewhat with the bird because of the branch
being in focus and at a slight angle to the rest of the frame - gives
you some reference points.

I've always gone with the thirds protocol in situations like this -
you divide the framing up into thirds and if you are going to offset
the image right or left, tend to keep the subject in focus towards the
middle of the second third (right or left).

Having said that, I think it would have been a much better image if
the bird had been moved left more towards the center of the frame
still keeping in within the 2nd third of the image (if divided into
thirds) and the background branch cloned out as it's distracting from
the subject - in my opinion.

Same with the spider on the flower which I don't like at all - too
much blank space to the left. I think it would have worked much
better if Mrs. Reggie had used a macro lens and got right in there
with the spider using the flower as background.

To be honest, you've done better work - the marina pier lights would
have been a winner even converted to B&W. And you might want to try
that montage/collage deal with the horse next contest - graduated
images are always interesting.

And having said all that, I've got to hand it to you - you have a gift
for this - congratulations.



What "photo contest" was it?

John H.[_5_] August 2nd 08 05:06 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:56:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Jim wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote in message . ..
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


Very nice, I like the depth of field work on your wife's bird picture!

She shot this with a 70-200mm 2.8 with a 1.7 Converter. This was a
hand held shot and even with the telephoto with converter, it was
fairly sharp. That is the beauty of the VR feature. The fast lens
does a great job on the DOF and really makes a nice bokeh.

My wife and I see the world so completely different. When I took the
horse photos, I was amazed at the strength and beauty of the animals.
She is actually scared of horses, but what she saw was the sadness of
them being in their stalls.

Here is her photo submission of her horse photo. The photographer of
each photo is not revealed till after the competition, so no one knows
who took the photos. This was her digital submission, and when they
flashed the image on the screen, it touched a number of woman behind
us. Based upon those women's reaction, I thought this would have
gotten a ribbon.

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...ots/InJail.jpg

It is amazing how different my wife's photos are. She is much more
creative than I am, and when we come back from taking photos, it is
amazing how different our photos look.







Harry's keen eye picked up on your pedestrian work. Maybe he'll give you
some tips some time so that you can take fine snapshots like he does.


The only photo Harry ever posted online that I really liked was an owl
photo taken in a Florida State Park.

I was really impressed by the sharpness, composition and exposure. It
looked like it was taken with a 500-600 mm pro lens. I was surprised
when I found the exact same photo in a professional wildlife
photographer's blog. I am not sure, but either the photographer stole
Harry's image or Harry stole his image. I know if I was Harry and a pro
stole my image I would have raised hell.


He took those 'down by the lake' or pond, or creek, or something. They
couldn't have been that photographer's pictures or Harry surely wouldn't
have posted them pretending they were his.

Would he?

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] August 2nd 08 05:07 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:41:46 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote
in message . ..
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Very nice, I like the depth of field work on your wife's bird picture!
She shot this with a 70-200mm 2.8 with a 1.7 Converter. This was a hand
held shot and even with the telephoto with converter, it was fairly
sharp. That is the beauty of the VR feature. The fast lens does a
great job on the DOF and really makes a nice bokeh.
My wife and I see the world so completely different. When I took the
horse photos, I was amazed at the strength and beauty of the animals. She
is actually scared of horses, but what she saw was the sadness of them
being in their stalls.

Here is her photo submission of her horse photo. The photographer of each
photo is not revealed till after the competition, so no one knows who took
the photos. This was her digital submission, and when they flashed the
image on the screen, it touched a number of woman behind us. Based upon
those women's reaction, I thought this would have gotten a ribbon.

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...ots/InJail.jpg

It is amazing how different my wife's photos are. She is much more
creative than I am, and when we come back from taking photos, it is
amazing how different our photos look.







Harry's keen eye picked up on your pedestrian work. Maybe he'll give you
some tips some time so that you can take fine snapshots like he does.


Harry likes bird photos. Remember his owls?


It looked like it was done professionally.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] August 2nd 08 05:08 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
wrote:
On Aug 2, 11:56 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Jim wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote in messagenews:RcOdnS1ldMjO5gnVnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@comca st.com...
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Very nice, I like the depth of field work on your wife's bird picture!
She shot this with a 70-200mm 2.8 with a 1.7 Converter. This was a
hand held shot and even with the telephoto with converter, it was
fairly sharp. That is the beauty of the VR feature. The fast lens
does a great job on the DOF and really makes a nice bokeh.
My wife and I see the world so completely different. When I took the
horse photos, I was amazed at the strength and beauty of the animals.
She is actually scared of horses, but what she saw was the sadness of
them being in their stalls.
Here is her photo submission of her horse photo. The photographer of
each photo is not revealed till after the competition, so no one knows
who took the photos. This was her digital submission, and when they
flashed the image on the screen, it touched a number of woman behind
us. Based upon those women's reaction, I thought this would have
gotten a ribbon.
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...ots/InJail.jpg
It is amazing how different my wife's photos are. She is much more
creative than I am, and when we come back from taking photos, it is
amazing how different our photos look.
Harry's keen eye picked up on your pedestrian work. Maybe he'll give you
some tips some time so that you can take fine snapshots like he does.

The only photo Harry ever posted online that I really liked was an owl
photo taken in a Florida State Park.

I was really impressed by the sharpness, composition and exposure. It
looked like it was taken with a 500-600 mm pro lens. I was surprised
when I found the exact same photo in a professional wildlife
photographer's blog. I am not sure, but either the photographer stole
Harry's image or Harry stole his image. I know if I was Harry and a pro
stole my image I would have raised hell.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I liked the picture of stumpy. Not the dead tree, but the stump little
finger in the picture of a postcard.. pfffft.


LOL,
I liked both of them. Really some first class work.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] August 2nd 08 05:09 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:56:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Jim wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote in message . ..
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Very nice, I like the depth of field work on your wife's bird picture!
She shot this with a 70-200mm 2.8 with a 1.7 Converter. This was a
hand held shot and even with the telephoto with converter, it was
fairly sharp. That is the beauty of the VR feature. The fast lens
does a great job on the DOF and really makes a nice bokeh.
My wife and I see the world so completely different. When I took the
horse photos, I was amazed at the strength and beauty of the animals.
She is actually scared of horses, but what she saw was the sadness of
them being in their stalls.

Here is her photo submission of her horse photo. The photographer of
each photo is not revealed till after the competition, so no one knows
who took the photos. This was her digital submission, and when they
flashed the image on the screen, it touched a number of woman behind
us. Based upon those women's reaction, I thought this would have
gotten a ribbon.

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...ots/InJail.jpg

It is amazing how different my wife's photos are. She is much more
creative than I am, and when we come back from taking photos, it is
amazing how different our photos look.







Harry's keen eye picked up on your pedestrian work. Maybe he'll give you
some tips some time so that you can take fine snapshots like he does.

The only photo Harry ever posted online that I really liked was an owl
photo taken in a Florida State Park.

I was really impressed by the sharpness, composition and exposure. It
looked like it was taken with a 500-600 mm pro lens. I was surprised
when I found the exact same photo in a professional wildlife
photographer's blog. I am not sure, but either the photographer stole
Harry's image or Harry stole his image. I know if I was Harry and a pro
stole my image I would have raised hell.


He took those 'down by the lake' or pond, or creek, or something. They
couldn't have been that photographer's pictures or Harry surely wouldn't
have posted them pretending they were his.

Would he?


I think the pro stole them from Harry. It is actually illegal to steal
someone's intellectual property so I hope Harry prosecuted him.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 2nd 08 05:11 PM

OT : We had a good night at the photo competition
 
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:05:59 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:16:56 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

My wife and I took home 4 ribbons last night's photo competition.

There were about about 75 B&W, 100 color print and digital photos
submitted for the 3 different categories. You are allowed to submit up
to 2 photos for B&W and Color and one photo for the Digital Submission.
I was blown away that we took home one Honorable Mention, one 4th
place, one 3rd place and a 2nd Place.

2nd place

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...rent=2ndbw.jpg

I touched this up some after the comments made in rec.boats. I do
appreciate your help.


I'd like to see what the First Place photo was - you did a nice job
tweaking that image. The gray scaling is brilliant - you have a nice
feel for graduation and impression.

No offense, I still think you've done better work though - in
particular with your initial portraits.

4th Place I almost didn't submit this one, I thought there would be a
ton of similar photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...t=4thplace.jpg

A photo, I really liked, but it did not ribbon. The pro thought it
would be a much better photo if the girl was interacting with the
penguin. I thought her shy look made the photo.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...twascute. jpg


You can see what he's talking about by comparing the two images. The
gorilla is interacting with something on camera - the girl is
interacting with something off camera.

The second problem with the penguin image is that there are two
subjects - the girl and the penguin. There is nothing to link the two
together - zip, nada.

He's dead on with that critique.

For reference, look back at your initial efforts with the portraits at
the Atlanta fountain and environs. Those, while initial, were simply
outstanding because they showed some sort of "story" - there was
interaction between the environment and the individuals. Even in the
single framed portraits, the subjects were inteacting with you which
was a very obvious impression when the images were tweaked.

An ordinary flower and bee photo that my wife said I should submit. No
ribbon.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...=noribbon1.jpg


Deservedly so I would say - there is nothing special about that image.

My wife's two ribbon photos.

http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...fe3rdplace.jpg
http://s339.photobucket.com/albums/n...blemention.jpg


This is something that annoys the heck out of me - the extreme framing
right or left. It works somewhat with the bird because of the branch
being in focus and at a slight angle to the rest of the frame - gives
you some reference points.

I've always gone with the thirds protocol in situations like this -
you divide the framing up into thirds and if you are going to offset
the image right or left, tend to keep the subject in focus towards the
middle of the second third (right or left).

Having said that, I think it would have been a much better image if
the bird had been moved left more towards the center of the frame
still keeping in within the 2nd third of the image (if divided into
thirds) and the background branch cloned out as it's distracting from
the subject - in my opinion.

Same with the spider on the flower which I don't like at all - too
much blank space to the left. I think it would have worked much
better if Mrs. Reggie had used a macro lens and got right in there
with the spider using the flower as background.

To be honest, you've done better work - the marina pier lights would
have been a winner even converted to B&W. And you might want to try
that montage/collage deal with the horse next contest - graduated
images are always interesting.

And having said all that, I've got to hand it to you - you have a gift
for this - congratulations.


What "photo contest" was it?


Have no idea - take him at his word.

You want to know - ask him.


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