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HK August 1st 08 09:39 PM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 
Larry wrote:
hk wrote in news:9r-
:

***However, In spite of John McCain's yearly salary as a U.S. Senator of
$169,300, and a reported total income in 2007 of $405,409, public
records show that McCain, in fact, personally draws from Social
Security. Although McCain and his wife keep separate finances, Cindy
McCain, an heiress and direct benefactor of a family beer fortune,
maintains an expansive largesse estimated at potentially $100 million.***

Incongruently, and in complete conflict with his public views and
withering remarks, John McCain received, according to public records,
$23,157 in Social Security benefits in 2007 - a welfare benefit that


They told me they'd cut back my $877/mo SS check if I earned over 12,500 a
year. Why doesn't this hit the rich, Harry?



McCain is so old, he can earn whatever he likes and collect. After a
certain age, you can earn whatever you can and not lose benefits.


Calif Bill August 2nd 08 12:54 AM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Larry wrote:
hk wrote in news:9r-
:

***However, In spite of John McCain's yearly salary as a U.S. Senator of
$169,300, and a reported total income in 2007 of $405,409, public
records show that McCain, in fact, personally draws from Social
Security. Although McCain and his wife keep separate finances, Cindy
McCain, an heiress and direct benefactor of a family beer fortune,
maintains an expansive largesse estimated at potentially $100
million.***

Incongruently, and in complete conflict with his public views and
withering remarks, John McCain received, according to public records,
$23,157 in Social Security benefits in 2007 - a welfare benefit that


They told me they'd cut back my $877/mo SS check if I earned over 12,500
a year. Why doesn't this hit the rich, Harry?



McCain is so old, he can earn whatever he likes and collect. After a
certain age, you can earn whatever you can and not lose benefits.


70. And if you do not collect until 70, you get more for each year you did
not collect.



Keith nuttle August 2nd 08 01:23 AM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Larry wrote:
hk wrote in news:9r-
:

***However, In spite of John McCain's yearly salary as a U.S. Senator of
$169,300, and a reported total income in 2007 of $405,409, public
records show that McCain, in fact, personally draws from Social
Security. Although McCain and his wife keep separate finances, Cindy
McCain, an heiress and direct benefactor of a family beer fortune,
maintains an expansive largesse estimated at potentially $100
million.***

Incongruently, and in complete conflict with his public views and
withering remarks, John McCain received, according to public records,
$23,157 in Social Security benefits in 2007 - a welfare benefit that
They told me they'd cut back my $877/mo SS check if I earned over 12,500
a year. Why doesn't this hit the rich, Harry?


McCain is so old, he can earn whatever he likes and collect. After a
certain age, you can earn whatever you can and not lose benefits.


70. And if you do not collect until 70, you get more for each year you did
not collect.


What does the fact that someone thinks the system is a disgrace have to
do with using a system. The department for unemployment in
Indianapolis, Indiana is also a disgrace, telephone access is
impossible, and they will not respond to e-mails, taking weeks to
respond to simple problems, BUT you some times you have to use.

[email protected] August 2nd 08 02:23 AM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 
On Aug 1, 7:54*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Larry wrote:
They told me they'd cut back my $877/mo SS check if I earned over 12,500
a year. *Why doesn't this hit the rich, Harry?


McCain is so old, he can earn whatever he likes and collect. After a
certain age, you can earn whatever you can and not lose benefits.


70. *And if you do not collect until 70, you get more for each year you did
not collect.- Hide quoted text -


If anyone paid the price and deserves a share, it's McCain. He's not
some "I got a paper cut and I want to go home" idiot. He's the real
deal... a real American.

Meanwhile, we have people that never paid a dime into the system
pulling a check from it every month. That's what McCain was talking
about, and that's what needs to be fixed.


HK August 2nd 08 03:03 AM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 
wrote:
On Aug 1, 7:54 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

. ..





Larry wrote:
They told me they'd cut back my $877/mo SS check if I earned over 12,500
a year. Why doesn't this hit the rich, Harry?
McCain is so old, he can earn whatever he likes and collect. After a
certain age, you can earn whatever you can and not lose benefits.

70. And if you do not collect until 70, you get more for each year you did
not collect.- Hide quoted text -


If anyone paid the price and deserves a share, it's McCain. He's not
some "I got a paper cut and I want to go home" idiot. He's the real
deal... a real American.


I would think he'd be qualified for a military pension because of years
of military service, no? I wonder what his SS benefit is based upon?
Certainly not private sector work.

It's just incongruous for McCain to whine about Social Security and to
collect SS benefits.

Larry August 2nd 08 03:13 AM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 
wrote in news:19e6877d-cdb7-4b92-8dba-
:

Meanwhile, we have people that never paid a dime into the system
pulling a check from it every month. That's what McCain was talking
about, and that's what needs to be fixed.



But, that's not what he's been advocating....He wants his buddies in
business to take over SS and privatize it so they can line their pockets
with "insurance premiums", just another corporate ripoff.

I don't think that's the same thing.....


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] August 2nd 08 03:07 PM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 
Keith nuttle wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Larry wrote:
hk wrote in news:9r-
:

***However, In spite of John McCain's yearly salary as a U.S.
Senator of $169,300, and a reported total income in 2007 of
$405,409, public records show that McCain, in fact, personally
draws from Social Security. Although McCain and his wife keep
separate finances, Cindy McCain, an heiress and direct benefactor
of a family beer fortune, maintains an expansive largesse estimated
at potentially $100 million.***

Incongruently, and in complete conflict with his public views and
withering remarks, John McCain received, according to public
records, $23,157 in Social Security benefits in 2007 - a welfare
benefit that
They told me they'd cut back my $877/mo SS check if I earned over
12,500 a year. Why doesn't this hit the rich, Harry?


McCain is so old, he can earn whatever he likes and collect. After a
certain age, you can earn whatever you can and not lose benefits.


70. And if you do not collect until 70, you get more for each year
you did not collect.

What does the fact that someone thinks the system is a disgrace have to
do with using a system. The department for unemployment in
Indianapolis, Indiana is also a disgrace, telephone access is
impossible, and they will not respond to e-mails, taking weeks to
respond to simple problems, BUT you some times you have to use.


The DMV used to be a complete disgrace, standing in line for hours to
get a new license plate. The employees were worse than the average
civil servant, yet I still used their services.
Luckily in our area, they actually have become a well run organization
with a completely different system of spreading out renewals throughout
the year, and making , using mail and online options for renewal.
Unbelievable in our county the civil servants now actually try to be
helpful.

Larry August 2nd 08 05:51 PM

McCain Calls Social Security a Disgrace, but Draws Benefits
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote in :

The DMV used to be a complete disgrace, standing in line for hours to
get a new license plate. The employees were worse than the average
civil servant, yet I still used their services.
Luckily in our area, they actually have become a well run organization
with a completely different system of spreading out renewals

throughout
the year, and making , using mail and online options for renewal.
Unbelievable in our county the civil servants now actually try to be
helpful.



The last SC DMV employee to renew my driver's license was the same lady
to gave me the written test and issued my SC driver's license in 1966
when the Navy sent me here.

After she handed me my license, I said, "Do you remember the last time
you issued me a new driver's license?" She looked at me a minute and
shook her head. "It was in 1966 over at the Pinehaven office, in
April.", I said, smiling. She was astonished that I remebered her from
way back that far and we had a fun conversation about the millions of
licenses she'd issued in Charleston over her career. She started in
1964, the year I graduated high school and avoided the draft by joining
the Navy. She has missed 8 days of work between 1964 and 2006, 2 of
them to have two children in the 60's, and the rest when her kids got
sick. She has never taken a single day, herself, to be sick in all
those years....the perfect employee. She's now, of course, a
supervisor, in her crisply pressed DMV uniform that looks like those old
photos of Soviet Army women, slightly fat with closely trimmed hair.

They'll find her dead on the floor behind the DMV counter, some day,
from old age when they come into work at 8. Of course, she gets their
first before everyone else as it is her home-away-from-home for 44
years.

I think DMV needs to name the office after her with a full bronze statue
out front by the flag pole. They've never had a more concientious
employee in state government. She waves at me every time she sees me
come into the office, now, remembering our little chat....(c; I get
first class service as the "lesser" bureaucrats think I'm friends with
the senior staff...(c;



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