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Valgard Toebreakerson[_2_] July 1st 08 12:33 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
As in dumb as a.

CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.

"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"

So, let's recap:

In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.

In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.

Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.

Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.

Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.

Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Hope - Change - Nuance.

Box of Rocks.

JimH[_2_] July 1st 08 12:38 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
On Jun 30, 7:33*pm, Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
As in dumb as a.

CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.

"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"

So, let's recap:

In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.

In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.

Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.

Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.

Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.

Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Hope - Change - Nuance.

Box of Rocks.


Quote from an unknown poster:

"Politics, always a good subject to discuss in a boating forum. It has
a tendency to bring people together to discuss mutal interests."

I wonder is he or she would say the same thing to you?

I doubt it. ;-)

HK July 1st 08 12:47 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
As in dumb as a.

CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.

"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"

So, let's recap:

In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.

In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.

Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.

Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.

Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.

Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Hope - Change - Nuance.

Box of Rocks.



You really truly are going to be upset, SW, when Obama is elected president.

Delicious.

D.Duck[_2_] July 1st 08 01:08 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 

"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
As in dumb as a.

CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.

"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it's a
matter of understanding risk, it's a matter of gauging your opponents
and it's a matter of being held accountable. John McCain's never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn't a wartime squadron. He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn't seen what it's like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don't know whether we're going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"

So, let's recap:

In "the matter of national security policy making." Barack Obama
hasn't ever done anything.

In the matter of gauging your "opponents", Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.

Barack Obama hasn't been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Barack Obama hasn't had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.

Barack Obama hasn't commanded anything, in wartime or not.

Barack Obama hasn't dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.

Barack Obama hasn't ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians - William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Hope - Change - Nuance.

Box of Rocks.


You're a math major, is "hundreds of thousands of millions" a big number?



Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] July 1st 08 01:08 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
As in dumb as a.

CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.

"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"

So, let's recap:

In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.

In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.

Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.

Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.

Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.

Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Hope - Change - Nuance.

Box of Rocks


"Politics, always a good subject to discuss in a boating forum. It has
a tendency to bring people together to discuss mutal interests."

JimH[_2_] July 1st 08 01:13 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
On Jun 30, 8:08*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
As in dumb as a.


CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.


"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"


So, let's recap:


In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.


In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.


Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.


Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.


Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.


Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.


Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.


Hope - Change - Nuance.


Box of Rocks


"Politics, always a good subject to discuss in a boating forum. It has
a tendency to bring people together to discuss mutal interests."


Coming out of the closet Reggie? ROTF.

HK July 1st 08 01:14 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
JimH wrote:
On Jun 30, 8:08 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
As in dumb as a.
CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.
"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"
So, let's recap:
In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.
In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.
Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.
Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.
Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.
Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.
Hope - Change - Nuance.
Box of Rocks

"Politics, always a good subject to discuss in a boating forum. It has
a tendency to bring people together to discuss mutal interests."


Coming out of the closet Reggie? ROTF.



Reggie is only here and there to see what sort of sh*t he can stir up.

JimH[_2_] July 1st 08 01:18 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
On Jun 30, 8:14*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Jun 30, 8:08 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
As in dumb as a.
CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.
"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"
So, let's recap:
In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.
In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.
Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.
Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.
Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.
Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.
Hope - Change - Nuance.
Box of Rocks
"Politics, always a good subject to discuss in a boating forum. It has
a tendency to bring people together to discuss mutal interests."


Coming out of the closet Reggie? * ROTF.


Reggie is only here and there to see what sort of sh*t he can stir up.


I would add another site to that list. ;-)

[email protected] July 1st 08 01:26 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
On Jun 30, 7:33*pm, Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
As in dumb as a.

CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.

"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it’s a
matter of understanding risk, it’s a matter of gauging your opponents
and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn’t held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn’t seen what it’s like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don’t know whether we’re going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"

So, let's recap:

In “the matter of national security policy making.” Barack Obama
hasn’t ever done anything.

In the matter of gauging your “opponents”, Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.

Barack Obama hasn’t been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Barack Obama hasn’t had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.

Barack Obama hasn’t commanded anything, in wartime or not.

Barack Obama hasn’t dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.

Barack Obama hasn’t ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians — William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Hope - Change - Nuance.

Box of Rocks.


"Politics, always a good subject to discuss in a boating forum. It
has
a tendency to bring people together to discuss mutal interests."

Valgard Toebreakerson[_2_] July 1st 08 01:27 AM

Obama advisors meet Box of Rocks
 
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:08:08 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
.. .
As in dumb as a.

CBS "Face The Nation" - Former General Wesley Clark - Obama Advisor.

"Because in the matters of national security policy making, it's a
matter of understanding risk, it's a matter of gauging your opponents
and it's a matter of being held accountable. John McCain's never done
any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service
as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands
of millions of others in the armed forces as a prisoner of war. He has
been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has
traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive
responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded
wasn't a wartime squadron. He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs
to fall. He hasn't seen what it's like when diplomats come in and say,
`I don't know whether we're going to be able to get this point through
or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How
do we handle it publicly?"

So, let's recap:

In "the matter of national security policy making." Barack Obama
hasn't ever done anything.

In the matter of gauging your "opponents", Obama wants to meet with
them without preconditions despite having no national-security,
military, or diplomatic experience.

Barack Obama hasn't been on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Barack Obama hasn't had any executive experience. For that matter, of
the three years he's been in the Senate, two of them have been running
for President.

Barack Obama hasn't commanded anything, in wartime or not.

Barack Obama hasn't dealt with diplomats in any capacity at all.

Barack Obama hasn't ordered the bombs to fall, although to be fair, he
has associated himself with "advisors" who have bombed things
including innocent civilians - William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Hope - Change - Nuance.

Box of Rocks.


You're a math major, is "hundreds of thousands of millions" a big number?


I don't know to whom you are referring as a "math major", but I do
know that there aren't 57 states - or 54 states.

Hope - Change - Nuance

57 states - who 'da thunk it?


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