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tak June 23rd 08 04:13 PM

Shelf life
 
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom



[email protected] June 23rd 08 04:48 PM

Shelf life
 
On Jun 23, 11:13*am, "tak" wrote:
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom


I have read 2-5 years or so, because of the additives...

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] June 23rd 08 05:20 PM

Shelf life
 
tak wrote:
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom



Trash it, oil shelf live is at best 2-5 years. I would not use it after
2 years, but then I throw away herbs and spices after 1 year.

The cost of the damage done by bad oil is not worth the savings from the
oil.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] June 23rd 08 05:21 PM

Shelf life
 
wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:13 am, "tak" wrote:
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom


I have read 2-5 years or so, because of the additives...


I heard the same thing, hence, I would not use oil older than 2 years.

They say you should not use Tires that are older than 6 years, no matter
how much tread you have on them.

Important for anyone trailering a boat

tak June 23rd 08 05:23 PM

Shelf life
 

"tak" wrote in message
. ..
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom

Thanks for the Info, it's gone.




Richard Casady June 23rd 08 06:49 PM

Shelf life
 
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:21:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:13 am, "tak" wrote:
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom


I have read 2-5 years or so, because of the additives...


I heard the same thing, hence, I would not use oil older than 2 years.

They say you should not use Tires that are older than 6 years, no matter
how much tread you have on them.

Important


On the Iowa lake where I do my boating, everyone I know has fifty year
old trailer tires. Five miles a year is typical. Same people and boats
for fifty years.

Casady

[email protected] June 23rd 08 06:52 PM

Shelf life
 
On Jun 23, 1:49*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:21:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:





wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:13 am, "tak" wrote:
Hi all,


Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?


Thanks,


Tom


I have read 2-5 years or so, because of the additives...


I heard the same thing, hence, I would not use oil older than 2 years.


They say you should not use Tires that are older than 6 years, no matter
how much tread you have on them.


Important


On the Iowa lake where I do my boating, everyone I know has fifty year
old trailer tires. Five miles a year is typical. Same people and boats
for fifty years.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Apples and oranges.. most folks use their tires...

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] June 23rd 08 09:12 PM

Shelf life
 
wrote:
On Jun 23, 1:49 pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:21:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:





wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:13 am, "tak" wrote:
Hi all,
Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?
Thanks,
Tom
I have read 2-5 years or so, because of the additives...
I heard the same thing, hence, I would not use oil older than 2 years.
They say you should not use Tires that are older than 6 years, no matter
how much tread you have on them.
Important

On the Iowa lake where I do my boating, everyone I know has fifty year
old trailer tires. Five miles a year is typical. Same people and boats
for fifty years.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Apples and oranges.. most folks use their tires...


If you are only driving VERY short distances at slow speeds, the tires
never heat up so the most that will happen is the tires will go flat.
If you trailer the boat on a highway, you would be wise to get new tires.

Jim June 23rd 08 09:25 PM

Shelf life
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Jun 23, 1:49 pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:21:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:





wrote:
On Jun 23, 11:13 am, "tak" wrote:
Hi all,
Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke)
has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and
plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?
Thanks,
Tom
I have read 2-5 years or so, because of the additives...
I heard the same thing, hence, I would not use oil older than 2 years.
They say you should not use Tires that are older than 6 years, no
matter
how much tread you have on them.
Important
On the Iowa lake where I do my boating, everyone I know has fifty year
old trailer tires. Five miles a year is typical. Same people and boats
for fifty years.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Apples and oranges.. most folks use their tires...


If you are only driving VERY short distances at slow speeds, the tires
never heat up so the most that will happen is the tires will go flat. If
you trailer the boat on a highway, you would be wise to get new tires.

I'll bet dem 50 yeah trayler tahres are solid rubah. Baloon tahres is fer
fast movin highway buggies.


Larry June 23rd 08 09:36 PM

Shelf life
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
:

Trash it,


Burn it slowly in your car. Add a quart or two to every fillup to dispose
of it slowly.


Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] June 23rd 08 10:53 PM

Shelf life
 
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:13:26 -0400, "tak"
wrote:

Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?


It's still still good.

The problem isn't the oil which is 80-95% of the total weight by
volume of marine TWC-3 formulations - that will always be good no
matter how old it is. The problem is the type of additives used, if
it's no ash, low ash, medium ash or high ash formulation, the type of
bio-degradable agent used and other minor ingredients. Each
manufacturer has to comply with the base TWC-3 specification and
that's what the engine performance is based on - the other agents
introduced to the formulation are there for environmental and
viscosity reasons - not necessarily performance reasons.

You will hear worry wart nannies who say 1 year, two years - the truth
is that it can't really go "bad" in the sense that it's unusuable. If
we're talking about your routine two stroke engine, carbed or injected
via VRO, you can use it without any problems. You might see a slight
degradation in performance in older tech Yamaha HPDI engines or Merc
Optimax, but it won't harm your engine. My engine is another story
entirely, but it can be detuned to use cheaper oils quickly.

If you are really concerned about "shelf life" of your stored,
unopened oils, just use them in your two cycle lawn equipment for the
forseeable future. That's what I do with the left over FICHT oil I
have. The odd thing is that the two cycle gear I have runs cleaner,
less smell, starts faster and develop a little more power with FICHT
oil than regular two cycle oil. :)

The simple truth is that for marine applications, it's still good.
It's really up to you to trust it. If you do or if you dont'.

I would use it if I owned a standard two stroke engine.

John H.[_4_] June 24th 08 12:47 AM

Shelf life
 
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:38 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

tak wrote:
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom



Trash it, oil shelf live is at best 2-5 years. I would not use it after
2 years, but then I throw away herbs and spices after 1 year.

The cost of the damage done by bad oil is not worth the savings from the
oil.


Can't you just double up on the amount of garlic powder and call it good?
--
John *H*

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] June 24th 08 05:00 AM

Shelf life
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:38 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

tak wrote:
Hi all,

Question: anyone know if the oil for outboard motor mix (2 stroke) has a
shelf life and if so, what. the oil is in factory sealed cans and plastic
containers and is eight to ten years old?

Thanks,

Tom


Trash it, oil shelf live is at best 2-5 years. I would not use it after
2 years, but then I throw away herbs and spices after 1 year.

The cost of the damage done by bad oil is not worth the savings from the
oil.


Can't you just double up on the amount of garlic powder and call it good?


NO


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