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[email protected] May 24th 08 01:43 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
I paid $4.99 for diesel yesterday away from the dock as my boat is not
in yet? What did you all pay?

Don White May 24th 08 03:09 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 

wrote in message
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I paid $4.99 for diesel yesterday away from the dock as my boat is not
in yet? What did you all pay?



What boat do you have that requires diesel?



Calif Bill May 24th 08 07:15 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I paid $4.99 for diesel yesterday away from the dock as my boat is not
in yet? What did you all pay?



What boat do you have that requires diesel?


Probably a pickup. I paid $4.46 last week for diesel for my P/U.



[email protected] May 24th 08 08:08 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On May 24, 2:15*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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wrote in message
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I paid $4.99 for diesel yesterday away from the dock as my boat is not
in yet? What did you all pay?


What boat do you have that requires diesel?


Probably a pickup. *I paid $4.46 last week for diesel for my P/U.


deisel here is a tad over $4.00, and gas is 3.69

Geoff Miller May 25th 08 02:12 AM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Calif Bill writes:

I paid $4.46 last week for diesel for my P/U.



At the cheapest gas station I know of (Rotten Robbie
on Lafayette St. in Santa Clara), diesel went up 30
cents in three days last week -- from $4.69 to $4.99.
(For comparison, regular, mid-grade and premium gasoline
there is $4.29, $4.39 and $4.49, respectively.) I've
parked my diesel Mercedes and started using my V-8 Chevy
pickup as my daily driver. Fuggit.

Ghod knows what diesel is going for at Bay/Delta fuel
docks nowadays, considering the mysterious "nautical
surcharge" that gets tacked onto otherwise-mundane fuels.
Maybe there's a feature about that somewhere in the _Bay
And Delta Yachtsman_, but if so, I have yet to find it.



Geoff

--
"Environmentalism's most renewable resources are fear,
guilt and moral bullying." -- Jonah Goldberg


Calif Bill May 25th 08 02:24 AM

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"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
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Calif Bill writes:

I paid $4.46 last week for diesel for my P/U.



At the cheapest gas station I know of (Rotten Robbie
on Lafayette St. in Santa Clara), diesel went up 30
cents in three days last week -- from $4.69 to $4.99.
(For comparison, regular, mid-grade and premium gasoline
there is $4.29, $4.39 and $4.49, respectively.) I've
parked my diesel Mercedes and started using my V-8 Chevy
pickup as my daily driver. Fuggit.

Ghod knows what diesel is going for at Bay/Delta fuel
docks nowadays, considering the mysterious "nautical
surcharge" that gets tacked onto otherwise-mundane fuels.
Maybe there's a feature about that somewhere in the _Bay
And Delta Yachtsman_, but if so, I have yet to find it.



Geoff

--
"Environmentalism's most renewable resources are fear,
guilt and moral bullying." -- Jonah Goldberg


When I worked in Silicon Valley, cheapest gas was always Costco on Coleman.



Bill H May 25th 08 04:47 AM

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Geoff Miller wrote:
Calif Bill writes:

I paid $4.46 last week for diesel for my P/U.


Ghod knows what diesel is going for at Bay/Delta fuel
docks nowadays, considering the mysterious "nautical
surcharge" that gets tacked onto otherwise-mundane fuels.
Maybe there's a feature about that somewhere in the _Bay
And Delta Yachtsman_, but if so, I have yet to find it.



Geoff



"Nautical Surcharge"? On top of already high prices? Guess I'll see you
at the truck stop in your Chevy PU with a bed full of gerry cans.

Geoff Miller May 25th 08 05:58 AM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Bill H boggles:

"Nautical Surcharge"? On top of already high prices?


Uhhh...yyyyyeah...

I'm not talking about an actual, formal surcharge; that's
why I put "nautical surcharge" in quotes. I was referring
to the way that fuel (gas or diesel) is more expensive at
fuel docks than the same stuff is at gas stations.

It's the result of that same "captive clientele," only-game-
in-town phenomenon that allows sports stadiums to get away
with charging astronomical prices for ****ty beer, and movie
theaters to demand ridiculous prices for the crap they sell
at the snack bar. That's why anybody with half a brain who
has a trailerable boat will fill it up at a gas station on
the way to the boat ramp, rather than buying gas at the fuel
dock.

I don't see that fuel prices being "already high" at gas
stations would prevent their continuing to be even higher
for boating use, just like they've always been. Do you?


Guess I'll see you at the truck stop in your Chevy PU with a
bed full of gerry cans.


Why not? It'd make sense. As log as fuel is more expensive
at the dock than it is at gas stations, the cost of the
jerrycans[*] would eventually be amortized.


[*] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_can


Geoff

--
"As for this week's Clinton complaints, I imagine
Mrs. Thatcher would bop her on the head with her
purse." -- Peggy Noonan


Jim May 25th 08 11:32 AM

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"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
et...
Guess I'll see you at the truck stop in your Chevy PU with a
bed full of gerry cans.


Why not? It'd make sense. As log as fuel is more expensive
at the dock than it is at gas stations, the cost of the
jerrycans[*] would eventually be amortized.


[*] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_can


Geoff


Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast. Not to mention the
hazards involved. Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw
gas when you are done. All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is
it worth it? Ante up fellas or find another hobby.


Richard Casady May 25th 08 03:57 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Sun, 25 May 2008 06:32:04 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.

True.
Not to mention the hazards involved. Plus, It's time consuming and

Only unavoidable hazard is a sore back. You have the body to handle
it, or not. See below.
you get to smell like raw gas when you are done.

Only if you carelessly spill it.
All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas
Is it worth it? Ante up fellas or find another hobby.

Worth it? Maybe not.

Get a yoke like the ones used by third worlders to carry two buckets
of water. Puts the weight on the shoulders instead of the hands. Holds
the cans away from the body so that they don't hit the outside of the
knees.

My boat[175 hp 22 ft cuddy] has the fill openings on the sides of the
boat, and without a really complicated funnel, you can't fuel from
cans while underway, or on the trailer. Maybe one side if alongside a
dock.

Casady

HK May 25th 08 04:06 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2008 06:32:04 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.

True.
Not to mention the hazards involved. Plus, It's time consuming and

Only unavoidable hazard is a sore back. You have the body to handle
it, or not. See below.
you get to smell like raw gas when you are done.

Only if you carelessly spill it.
All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas
Is it worth it? Ante up fellas or find another hobby.

Worth it? Maybe not.

Get a yoke like the ones used by third worlders to carry two buckets
of water. Puts the weight on the shoulders instead of the hands. Holds
the cans away from the body so that they don't hit the outside of the
knees.

My boat[175 hp 22 ft cuddy] has the fill openings on the sides of the
boat, and without a really complicated funnel, you can't fuel from
cans while underway, or on the trailer. Maybe one side if alongside a
dock.

Casady



When I was a young teen, I used to hand carry a pair of six gallon steel
Evinrude gasoline tanks pretty close to a mile. This was before the day
of built-in tanks on small outboard runabouts.

There was no marina at the beach where I moored my boat, so I had to run
the boat a few miles down to another beach, where I could anchor and
carry the cans up to a Sunoco station. Carrying them back took awhile,
with plenty of rest stops. I don't recall the numbers, but I guess each
can weighed about 60# full. I didn't do it often, though! If I had the
fuel, I'd make the run from our cove to my father's marina in Milford,
where I had a key to the fuel pumps. :)

Gas was about 20 cents a gallon in those days.

Anyone remember Amoco "white" gas?

Where I live now, the cheapest gas usually is available at a WaWa
station. My little 21-footer holds 100 gallons.




John H.[_4_] May 25th 08 04:34 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:57:13 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2008 06:32:04 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.

True.
Not to mention the hazards involved. Plus, It's time consuming and

Only unavoidable hazard is a sore back. You have the body to handle
it, or not. See below.
you get to smell like raw gas when you are done.

Only if you carelessly spill it.
All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas
Is it worth it? Ante up fellas or find another hobby.

Worth it? Maybe not.

Get a yoke like the ones used by third worlders to carry two buckets
of water. Puts the weight on the shoulders instead of the hands. Holds
the cans away from the body so that they don't hit the outside of the
knees.

My boat[175 hp 22 ft cuddy] has the fill openings on the sides of the
boat, and without a really complicated funnel, you can't fuel from
cans while underway, or on the trailer. Maybe one side if alongside a
dock.

Casady


If your marina will allow it, this looks like a good way to save some of
the cost of gas. At about $380 it would take a while to pay for itself, but
then again maybe not, if you do a lot of boating.

http://tinyurl.com/4qynke

Here's another version at a little more than half the price.

http://tinyurl.com/4tn2ge

Here's the catalog page with the details.

http://tinyurl.com/3efycb

--
John *H*

Geoff Miller May 27th 08 02:46 AM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Jim writes:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.


Doesn't everybody who keeps a boat at a marina have one of these?:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zdgmf

If not, *why* not?


Not to mention the hazards involved.


How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
it from a gas pump hose? It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
but that's a different matter entirely.


Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw gas when
you are done.


Feh. When I was racing (SCCA), I poured fuel from jugs like these
all the time:

http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/fue...&_carriers.htm

I don't remember ever spilling gasoline or getting any on my hands.


All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is it worth it?


Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. It's
the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.



Geoff

--
"As for this week's Clinton complaints, I imagine
Mrs. Thatcher would bop her on the head with her
purse." -- Peggy Noonan


Geoff Miller May 27th 08 03:02 AM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Richard Casady writes:

My boat[175 hp 22 ft cuddy] has the fill openings on the sides
of the boat, and without a really complicated funnel, you can't
fuel from cans while underway, or on the trailer. Maybe one side
if alongside a dock.



Most cars have gas filler necks on the rear quarter panel. When
I was racing, we used fuel jugs like this:

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...p?Product=2558

with hoses like this (we called them "donkey dicks") attached:

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro....asp?RecId=729

and they worked just fine.



Geoff

--
"As for this week's Clinton complaints, I imagine
Mrs. Thatcher would bop her on the head with her
purse." -- Peggy Noonan


Jim May 27th 08 11:31 AM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 

"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
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Jim writes:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.


Doesn't everybody who keeps a boat at a marina have one of these?:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zdgmf

If not, *why* not?


Link doesn't seem to be working.



Not to mention the hazards involved.


A hazzardous condition exists while transporting gasoline in the trunk of
the car. A hazzardous condition exists when pouring gasoline while standing
on a shaky finger pier. A hazzardous condition exists when trying to load
gas cans over the gunnel onto the deck which you just can't seem to reach. A
hazzardous condition exists when the guy on the next boat is enjoying a
cigarette while watching you fuel up, or maybe he decides to fire up the
barbee.

How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
it from a gas pump hose? It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
but that's a different matter entirely.


A handy little lever on the pump nozzle safely starts and stops the flow of
gasoline after the nozzle is inserted into the fill hose. The nozzle is much
easier to handle than a 35 pound gas can. The spouts on gas cans seem to
want to leak at the most inappropriate time. It is virtually impossible to
withdraw a partially full gas can without some spillage.


Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw gas when
you are done.


Feh. When I was racing (SCCA), I poured fuel from jugs like these
all the time:

http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/fue...&_carriers.htm

I don't remember ever spilling gasoline or getting any on my hands.


Have you ever tried filling a boat from these cans? Why are the cans so
expensive?



All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is it worth it?


Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. It's
the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.


Reasonable people certainly can have differences; but not on wrecked boats
;-)




Geoff

--
"As for this week's Clinton complaints, I imagine
Mrs. Thatcher would bop her on the head with her
purse." -- Peggy Noonan



John H.[_4_] May 27th 08 11:38 AM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:46:22 -0500, (Geoff Miller) wrote:



Jim writes:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.


Doesn't everybody who keeps a boat at a marina have one of these?:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zdgmf

If not, *why* not?


Not to mention the hazards involved.


How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
it from a gas pump hose? It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
but that's a different matter entirely.


Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw gas when
you are done.


Feh. When I was racing (SCCA), I poured fuel from jugs like these
all the time:

http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/fue...&_carriers.htm

I don't remember ever spilling gasoline or getting any on my hands.


All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is it worth it?


Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. It's
the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.



Geoff


Shoot. All my life I've use gas to clean my hands with, and now I'm hearing
it's not a good thing to do.

Crap.
--
John *H*

Jim May 27th 08 11:44 AM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:46:22 -0500, (Geoff Miller) wrote:



Jim writes:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.


Doesn't everybody who keeps a boat at a marina have one of these?:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zdgmf

If not, *why* not?


Not to mention the hazards involved.


How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
it from a gas pump hose? It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
but that's a different matter entirely.


Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw gas when
you are done.


Feh. When I was racing (SCCA), I poured fuel from jugs like these
all the time:

http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/fue...&_carriers.htm

I don't remember ever spilling gasoline or getting any on my hands.


All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is it worth it?


Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. It's
the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.



Geoff


Shoot. All my life I've use gas to clean my hands with, and now I'm
hearing
it's not a good thing to do.

Crap.
--
John *H*


Remember the little droplets of mercury we used to play with as kids. With
every hazardous material we have touched, its a marvel that our hands
haven't rotted and fallen off. ;-)



Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] May 27th 08 12:00 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
Jim wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:46:22 -0500, (Geoff Miller)
wrote:



Jim writes:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.

Doesn't everybody who keeps a boat at a marina have one of these?:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zdgmf

If not, *why* not?


Not to mention the hazards involved.

How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
it from a gas pump hose? It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
but that's a different matter entirely.


Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw gas when
you are done.

Feh. When I was racing (SCCA), I poured fuel from jugs like these
all the time:

http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/fue...&_carriers.htm

I don't remember ever spilling gasoline or getting any on my hands.


All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is it worth it?

Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. It's
the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.



Geoff


Shoot. All my life I've use gas to clean my hands with, and now I'm
hearing
it's not a good thing to do.

Crap.
--
John *H*


Remember the little droplets of mercury we used to play with as kids.
With every hazardous material we have touched, its a marvel that our
hands haven't rotted and fallen off. ;-)



The problem with putting gas and mercury on your hands is it does not
effect your hands, it effects your mind.


..... What were we talking about?



Jim May 27th 08 12:39 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..

The problem with putting gas and mercury on your hands is it does not
effect your hands, it effects your mind.


.... What were we talking about?


Pump or pour. Remember?


Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] May 27th 08 12:45 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
Jim wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..

The problem with putting gas and mercury on your hands is it does not
effect your hands, it effects your mind.


.... What were we talking about?


Pump or pour. Remember?


Oh yeah, frozen drinks. I prefer to pour my pina colada.

John H.[_4_] May 27th 08 06:47 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:44:47 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:46:22 -0500, (Geoff Miller) wrote:



Jim writes:

Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.

Doesn't everybody who keeps a boat at a marina have one of these?:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zdgmf

If not, *why* not?


Not to mention the hazards involved.

How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
it from a gas pump hose? It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
but that's a different matter entirely.


Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw gas when
you are done.

Feh. When I was racing (SCCA), I poured fuel from jugs like these
all the time:

http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/fue...&_carriers.htm

I don't remember ever spilling gasoline or getting any on my hands.


All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is it worth it?

Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. It's
the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.



Geoff


Shoot. All my life I've use gas to clean my hands with, and now I'm
hearing
it's not a good thing to do.

Crap.
--
John *H*


Remember the little droplets of mercury we used to play with as kids. With
every hazardous material we have touched, its a marvel that our hands
haven't rotted and fallen off. ;-)


I think mercury affects your brain. Mine dropped off years ago.
--
John *H*

[email protected] May 27th 08 06:52 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On May 27, 1:47*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:44:47 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:46:22 -0500, (Geoff *Miller) wrote:


Jim writes:


Carrying gas down to the docks gets old real fast.


Doesn't everybody who keeps a boat at a marina have one of these?:


http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zdgmf


If not, *why* not?


Not to mention the hazards involved.


How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
it from a gas pump hose? *It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
but that's a different matter entirely.


Plus, It's time consuming and you get to smell like raw gas when
you are done.


Feh. *When I was racing (SCCA), I poured fuel from jugs like these
all the time:


http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/fue...&_carriers.htm


I don't remember ever spilling gasoline or getting any on my hands.


All this to save $2.50 per Jerry Jug full of gas. Is it worth it?


Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. *It's
the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.


Geoff


Shoot. All my life I've use gas to clean my hands with, and now I'm
hearing
it's not a good thing to do.


Crap.
--
John *H*


Remember the little droplets of mercury we used to play with as kids. With
every hazardous material we have touched, its a marvel that our hands
haven't rotted and fallen off. ;-)


I think mercury affects your brain. Mine dropped off years ago.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -

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Anybody remember the SBS tags in the eastern corridor on the toll
booths?

Just Wait a Frekin' Minute!?.... SBS 1969 ;)

Geoff Miller June 12th 08 02:40 PM

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Jim writes:

A hazzardous condition exists while transporting gasoline in
the trunk of the car.


So can we take it that you're terrified when you bring home gas
in a jug for your lawnmower, then? Do you wear one of those
shiny silver suits with the tinted window in the hood, like
airport crash crews wear, while you're behind the wheel?

Gee, all my racing friends and I never realized that we were
taking out very lives in our hands by transporting several jugs
of gasoline to the track at a time in our tow vehicles. Oh, the
humanity!


A hazzardous condition exists when pouring gasoline while standing
on a shaky finger pier.


But not while boarding or disembarking from a boat with other
items in you hands while standing on a shaky finger pier?


A hazzardous condition exists when trying to load gas cans over
the gunnel [sic] onto the deck which you just can't seem to reach.


But not when you're trying to load whatever other, usual stuff you
bring aboard over the gunwale onto the deck which you just can't
seem to reach?

Perhaps this is a "boat too far from the dock" problem and not a
"gasoline in jugs" problem, and it could easily be addressed by
simply *pulling the boat closer?* That always worked for me.

Maybe you do your boating in some Lovecraftian universe with
non-Euclidian geometry, where such a straightforward approach
wouldn't apply. "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl
fhtan!"


A hazzardous condition exists when the guy on the next boat is
enjoying a cigarette while watching you fuel up, or maybe he
decides to fire up the barbee.


Well then, *look around* and see if something like that is happening
before you begin, and pay attention to what's going on nearby while
you're fueling. Anyone who has such a weak sense of situational
awareness that he wouldn't notice such things has no business boating
to begin with, I'm confident you'd agree. Would *you* want to share
the waterways with such a person? Didn't think so.

You could even move the boat to the fuel dock or some other open area
if it would make you feel better. There's no cosmic law that says this
has to be done in your slip. In fact, I never even suggested that,
necessarily.


: How is pouring gas from a jerrycan any more hazardous than pouring
: it from a gas pump hose? It's more awkward, granted (gas is heavy),
: but that's a different matter entirely.

A handy little lever on the pump nozzle safely starts and stops the
flow of gasoline after the nozzle is inserted into the fill hose.


Hoses for fuel jugs with shutoff valves on them are both available
and effective. I've used them.


The nozzle is much easier to handle than a 35 pound gas can.


If you'd rather pay out the nose for gas from a fuel dock than heft
a few fuel jugs, it's certainly your call. Although I have to say
that if you can't life 35 pounds, this is a "physical fitness" problem
and not a "fuel jug" problem. Maybe your wife could help you. *grin*


The spouts on gas cans seem to want to leak at the most inappropriate
time.


Not on the jugs I've used while racing. But then, they weren't $5.00
specials from the neighborhood auto-parts emporium.


It is virtually impossible to withdraw a partially full gas can without
some spillage.


The horror! You mean you've never had a little bit of gasoline come
out your tank vents while filling from a nozzle?

Actually, you should know the capacity of your fuel tank, be able to see
how full it is from the gas gauge, and thereby easily be able to estimate
how much gas it'll take to fill it. As you approach that volume, start
lowering the jug to reduce the flow rate. This is a problem...why?


Have you ever tried filling a boat from these cans?


Not yet. Until now, gasoline wasn't so expensive that it ever occurred
to me. Then again, I've fuelled race cars with them, and I really don't
see that the fuel jug is going to know or care what kind of vehicle it's
being used to fuel, do you?


Why are the cans so expensive?


It's the cost of materials. It's apparent from the picture that they're
sturdy, with thick walls, and have a lot of plastic in them.


: Depends on the individual: what sort of boat he has, whether he keeps
: it in the water or on a trailer, and how much boating he does. It's
: the sort of thing about which rasonable people can differ.

Reasonable people certainly can have differences; but not on wrecked
boats ;-)


You haven't made much of a case that wrecked boats are a significant
possibility. Indeed, you're grasping at straws and are arguing just
to argue. If you were really as concerned about "hazardous conditions"
as you're pretneding to be, you'd be afraid to set foot outside your
house, much less go out on the water.



Geoff

--
"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't
even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny
doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."
-- Thomas Sowell

Jim June 12th 08 03:54 PM

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"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
et...
Have you ever tried filling a boat from these cans?


Not yet. Until now, gasoline wasn't so expensive that it ever occurred
to me. Then again, I've fuelled race cars with them, and I really don't
see that the fuel jug is going to know or care what kind of vehicle it's
being used to fuel, do you?


Geoff


Come back and tell us how it went. Up until now, you have no basis for an
informed opinion. And, oh yeah, you have some anger management issues.


Larry June 12th 08 04:50 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
"Jim" wrote in
:


"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
et...
Have you ever tried filling a boat from these cans?


Not yet. Until now, gasoline wasn't so expensive that it ever
occurred to me. Then again, I've fuelled race cars with them, and I
really don't see that the fuel jug is going to know or care what kind
of vehicle it's being used to fuel, do you?


Geoff


Come back and tell us how it went. Up until now, you have no basis for
an informed opinion. And, oh yeah, you have some anger management
issues.



Watching jetskiiers refuel several times on saturday from jugs, it's
amazing more haven't exploded in flames....(c;


Jim June 12th 08 07:26 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in
:


"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
et...
Have you ever tried filling a boat from these cans?

Not yet. Until now, gasoline wasn't so expensive that it ever
occurred to me. Then again, I've fuelled race cars with them, and I
really don't see that the fuel jug is going to know or care what kind
of vehicle it's being used to fuel, do you?


Geoff


Come back and tell us how it went. Up until now, you have no basis for
an informed opinion. And, oh yeah, you have some anger management
issues.



Watching jetskiiers refuel several times on saturday from jugs, it's
amazing more haven't exploded in flames....(c;

Yup!


Geoff Miller June 12th 08 08:13 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Jim writes:

Come back and tell us how it went. Up until now, you have
no basis for an informed opinion.


Translation: I shot down each of your objections, but you're
too stubborn to concede defeat.

I have no basis for an informed opinion, eh? I said more than
once that I've used those jugs many times. The laws of physics
aren't any different just because one is fueling a boat as op-
posed to a race car.


And, oh yeah, you have some anger management issues.


You've got to be kidding; I had fun writing that, especially
the Lovecraft part. Maybe it's the inherent limitiations of
the printed word that prevented you from grasping that.

Alternatively, maybe it was just that you need to stop taking
yourelf so bloody seriously and "man up," as they say.



Geoff

--
"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't
even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny
doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."
-- Thomas Sowell

Geoff Miller June 12th 08 08:19 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Larry writes:

Watching jetskiiers refuel several times on saturday from jugs,
it's amazing more haven't exploded in flames....(c;



The fuel tanks on most, if not all, boats are farther from their
engines than the fuel tanks on jetskis are, simply by virtue o
the fact that most boats are bigger than jetskis if nothing else.

A few summers ago I rented a 40-foot houseboat on Lake Sonoma in
the wine country of Northern California. There'd been an incident
a year or two previously where a kid swimming near the dock had
been electrocuted by straw current, so the "solution" was to cut
off all electricity to the dock. As a result, the houseboat-
rental guys had to refuel their boats from jugs.



Geoff

--
"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't
even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny
doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."
-- Thomas Sowell

Jim June 12th 08 08:51 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 

"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
et...


Jim writes:

Come back and tell us how it went. Up until now, you have
no basis for an informed opinion.


Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences after you've
done it a couple of times. Till then you're just blowing smoke.


JimH[_2_] June 12th 08 09:35 PM

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On Jun 12, 3:51 pm, "Jim" wrote:
"Geoff Miller" wrote in message

et...



Jim writes:


Come back and tell us how it went. Up until now, you have
no basis for an informed opinion.


Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences after you've
done it a couple of times. Till then you're just blowing smoke.


Does anyone have any popcorn to share with me?

Vic Smith June 12th 08 10:59 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:19:07 -0500, (Geoff Miller)
wrote:



Larry writes:

Watching jetskiiers refuel several times on saturday from jugs,
it's amazing more haven't exploded in flames....(c;



The fuel tanks on most, if not all, boats are farther from their
engines than the fuel tanks on jetskis are, simply by virtue o
the fact that most boats are bigger than jetskis if nothing else.

A few summers ago I rented a 40-foot houseboat on Lake Sonoma in
the wine country of Northern California. There'd been an incident
a year or two previously where a kid swimming near the dock had
been electrocuted by straw current, so the "solution" was to cut
off all electricity to the dock. As a result, the houseboat-
rental guys had to refuel their boats from jugs.

Wine jugs?

--Vic

Geoff Miller June 14th 08 07:04 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Jim writes:

Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences
after you've done it a couple of times. Till then you're just
blowing smoke.



"Blowing smoke?" That was presented as an idea, a suggestion
for getting around high prices at the fuel dock, not as something
I've done.

You haven't come up with a single, credible reason why it wouldn't
work. The objections you cam eup with were silly, and I shot them
down one by one.

You're arguing just to argue. I don't know why this topic triggered
such hostlity in you. Maybe you're one of those people who resists
anything new.

Alternatively, maybe you're just a dickhead.



Geoff

--
"A British advertising man with a proper education
can make magazine copy for ribbed condoms sound
like the Magna goddam Carta." -- Stephen King


JimH[_2_] June 14th 08 08:08 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Jun 14, 2:04 pm, (Geoff Miller) wrote:
Jim writes:
Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences
after you've done it a couple of times. Till then you're just
blowing smoke.


"Blowing smoke?" That was presented as an idea, a suggestion
for getting around high prices at the fuel dock, not as something
I've done.

You haven't come up with a single, credible reason why it wouldn't
work. The objections you cam eup with were silly, and I shot them
down one by one.

You're arguing just to argue. I don't know why this topic triggered
such hostlity in you. Maybe you're one of those people who resists
anything new.

Alternatively, maybe you're just a dickhead.

Geoff

--
"A British advertising man with a proper education
can make magazine copy for ribbed condoms sound
like the Magna goddam Carta." -- Stephen King


Florida Jim is a trolling ass. Ignore him.

HK June 14th 08 08:36 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
Geoff Miller wrote:
Jim writes:

Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences
after you've done it a couple of times. Till then you're just
blowing smoke.



"Blowing smoke?" That was presented as an idea, a suggestion
for getting around high prices at the fuel dock, not as something
I've done.

You haven't come up with a single, credible reason why it wouldn't
work. The objections you cam eup with were silly, and I shot them
down one by one.

You're arguing just to argue. I don't know why this topic triggered
such hostlity in you. Maybe you're one of those people who resists
anything new.

Alternatively, maybe you're just a dickhead.



Geoff

--
"A British advertising man with a proper education
can make magazine copy for ribbed condoms sound
like the Magna goddam Carta." -- Stephen King



Jim from Florida is a horse's ass.

JimH[_2_] June 14th 08 10:34 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Jun 14, 5:32 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:04:39 -0500, (Geoff Miller) wrote:





Jim writes:


Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences
after you've done it a couple of times. Till then you're just
blowing smoke.


"Blowing smoke?" That was presented as an idea, a suggestion
for getting around high prices at the fuel dock, not as something
I've done.


You haven't come up with a single, credible reason why it wouldn't
work. The objections you cam eup with were silly, and I shot them
down one by one.


You're arguing just to argue. I don't know why this topic triggered
such hostlity in you. Maybe you're one of those people who resists
anything new.


Alternatively, maybe you're just a dickhead.


Geoff


I almost never fuel my boat by any method other than with jugs. What's the
mysterious problem that Jim has when he tries to pour a liquid from one
container into another?


Static electricity.

HK June 14th 08 10:38 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
JimH wrote:
On Jun 14, 5:32 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:04:39 -0500, (Geoff Miller) wrote:





Jim writes:
Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences
after you've done it a couple of times. Till then you're just
blowing smoke.
"Blowing smoke?" That was presented as an idea, a suggestion
for getting around high prices at the fuel dock, not as something
I've done.
You haven't come up with a single, credible reason why it wouldn't
work. The objections you cam eup with were silly, and I shot them
down one by one.
You're arguing just to argue. I don't know why this topic triggered
such hostlity in you. Maybe you're one of those people who resists
anything new.
Alternatively, maybe you're just a dickhead.
Geoff

I almost never fuel my boat by any method other than with jugs. What's the
mysterious problem that Jim has when he tries to pour a liquid from one
container into another?


Static electricity.


Florida Jim? Overwhelming stupidity and clumsiness, if he even has a boat.

Jim June 14th 08 11:22 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:04:39 -0500, (Geoff Miller) wrote:



Jim writes:

Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences
after you've done it a couple of times. Till then you're just
blowing smoke.



"Blowing smoke?" That was presented as an idea, a suggestion
for getting around high prices at the fuel dock, not as something
I've done.

You haven't come up with a single, credible reason why it wouldn't
work. The objections you cam eup with were silly, and I shot them
down one by one.

You're arguing just to argue. I don't know why this topic triggered
such hostlity in you. Maybe you're one of those people who resists
anything new.

Alternatively, maybe you're just a dickhead.



Geoff


I almost never fuel my boat by any method other than with jugs. What's the
mysterious problem that Jim has when he tries to pour a liquid from one
container into another?


Jim Tried it. Jim thought it was a waste of time and trouble. Jim's problem
was that his time was much too valuable to be schlepping jerry jugs full of
gas some 200 yards to fuel a boat. The money saved just wasn't worth the
trouble. There were other reasons but that was the main one. I understand it
is the only option for some and I feel sorry for them.


Geoff Miller June 26th 08 08:29 PM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 


Vic Smith writes:

: As a result, the houseboat-rental guys had to refuel
: their boats from jugs.

Wine jugs?



Chianti.



Geoff

--
"What do you suppose the waiter will do when you tell him his
Chianti tastes as though a platoon of Togolese askari have
used it to wash their pits before straining it back into the
bottle through a freshly skinned civet's rectum?" -- AA Gill

[email protected] June 27th 08 03:35 AM

Gas prices, quesiton from a Wrecked boater....;)
 
On Jun 14, 6:22*pm, "Jim" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:04:39 -0500, (Geoff *Miller) wrote:


Jim writes:


Come back and tell us all about your boat fueling experiences
after you've done it a couple of times. Till then you're just
blowing smoke.


"Blowing smoke?" *That was presented as an idea, a suggestion
for getting around high prices at the fuel dock, not as something
I've done.


You haven't come up with a single, credible reason why it wouldn't
work. *The objections you cam eup with were silly, and I shot them
down one by one.


You're arguing just to argue. *I don't know why this topic triggered
such hostlity in you. *Maybe you're one of those people who resists
anything new.


Alternatively, maybe you're just a dickhead.


Geoff


I almost never fuel my boat by any method other than with jugs. What's the
mysterious problem that Jim has when he tries to pour a liquid from one
container into another?


Jim Tried it. Jim thought it was a waste of time and trouble. Jim's problem
was that his time was much too valuable to be schlepping jerry jugs full of
gas some 200 yards to fuel a boat. The money saved just wasn't worth the
trouble. There were other reasons but that was the main one. I understand it
is the only option for some and I feel sorry for them.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Awe, crap! Now you've went and engaged the two idiots again. Don't you
know that if Harry hasn't done it, doesn't own it, hasn't tried it,
it's just wrong?


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