InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.

http://advice.cio.com/laurianne_mcla...row_away_vista

from the article listed above.

Throw Vista away. That's what my colleagues at our fellow IDG
publication InfoWorld have now argued that Microsoft should do. Give it
a dignified resting place, as a stepping-stone OS, and come up with a
replacement that's more sensible for enterprise IT. There is historical
precedent in the consumer OS space for such a move; look at Windows ME
and how it became a footnote in Microsoft history.

"Microsoft should toss Vista in the trash, as the company did with
Windows Millennium eight years ago, then issue a Windows XP Second
Edition (as it did with Windows 98 eight years ago) that capitalizes on
some of Vista's key benefits. Then the company should focus on Windows
7, rather than keep trying to push Vista down unwilling customers'
throats. If that's too radical, how about doing an XP Second Edition
while also continuing to rework Vista?" writes InfoWorld executive
editor Galen Gruman, who created a petition that 100,000 people have now
signed asking Microsoft to save Windows XP.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.



Y-A-W-N.

Been boating out on Lanier yet, ReggieCrap?

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Apr 14, 2:38*pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.

Y-A-W-N.

Been boating out on Lanier yet, ReggieCrap?

Harry, I thought you were all agog at Chuck's site because there isn't
any childish name calling. Why do you do so here?

Another troll from Reggie
 

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.

Troll



Yup. Nothing but.

Another troll from Reggie
 

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.
Troll
Yup. Nothing but.

Just for Dick....... ~giggle~




Must be something in what remains of that Atlanta water supply, since
both Reggie and Loogie claim to live in that area, and both of them are
the predominant trolls here. And I see second hand that poor dumb Loogie
is *still* trying to get me to notice, poor little **** that he is. Too
much skanky homebrew beer and pot, maybe.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.


Wishful thinking.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I saw a survey where they asked Vista users if they would prefer keeping
Vista or using the previous Windows version they were using. 90% of the
Vista users wished they could have their old OS (WinXP, Win98 etc.)

At one time, Vista's problems were writtten about and discussed in the
computer magazaines and forums, today you read about it in CNN, ABC, AP
and all of the other mainstream media.

Over 110,000 people have already signed the "Save WinXP" petition. MS
may want to put on blinders and ignore the users and try to bully their
way past all of this, but if they do, the experts on CNBC will be correct.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...6DntwD901KB280

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I saw a survey where

Troll.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I saw a survey where they asked Vista users if they would prefer keeping
Vista or using the previous Windows version they were using. 90% of the
Vista users wished they could have their old OS (WinXP, Win98 etc.)

At one time, Vista's problems were writtten about and discussed in the
computer magazaines and forums, today you read about it in CNN, ABC, AP
and all of the other mainstream media.

Over 110,000 people have already signed the "Save WinXP" petition. MS
may want to put on blinders and ignore the users and try to bully their
way past all of this, but if they do, the experts on CNBC will be correct.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...6DntwD901KB280

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/


SWS,

I really think it will be the business users and computer companies who
will force MS to realize they will have to rethink their whole approach
to forcing Vista a broken OS into the marketplace.

Dell has actually used Vista as a selling tool to sell their PC's by
offering to NOT to install Vista.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...ers-windows-xp

Dell offers Windows XP to save folk from Vista
"Downgrade" service

YOU SELL COMPUTERS, but you can't flog them with Vista on.

On the other hand, start flogging Windows-free PCs and an army of
soft-footed voles will beat a path to your door and nibble at your
margins. HWat to do?

Well, you could take a leaf out of Dell's book, and supply Vista like
you're supposed to, but install XP instead because that's what your
customers want.

Says Dell: "With Windows Vista® Downgrade Service from Dell, you get a
simple way to migrate to Windows Vista on your schedule.

Dell will factory-install Windows XP Professional and give you the DVD
to install Windows Vista Business or Windows Vista Ultimate when you’re
ready (you will also receive the DVD for Windows XP Professional).

Dell will also support both operating systems on your PC throughout the
limited warranty period

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...ers-windows-xp

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I saw a survey where they asked Vista users if they would prefer
keeping Vista or using the previous Windows version they were using.
90% of the Vista users wished they could have their old OS (WinXP,
Win98 etc.)

At one time, Vista's problems were writtten about and discussed in the
computer magazaines and forums, today you read about it in CNN, ABC,
AP and all of the other mainstream media.

Over 110,000 people have already signed the "Save WinXP" petition. MS
may want to put on blinders and ignore the users and try to bully
their way past all of this, but if they do, the experts on CNBC will
be correct.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...6DntwD901KB280

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/


SWS,

I really think

TROLL

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:26:24 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I saw a survey where they asked Vista users if they would prefer keeping
Vista or using the previous Windows version they were using. 90% of the
Vista users wished they could have their old OS (WinXP, Win98 etc.)

At one time, Vista's problems were writtten about and discussed in the
computer magazaines and forums, today you read about it in CNN, ABC, AP
and all of the other mainstream media.

Over 110,000 people have already signed the "Save WinXP" petition. MS
may want to put on blinders and ignore the users and try to bully their
way past all of this, but if they do, the experts on CNBC will be correct.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...6DntwD901KB280

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

Now they're up to 110,001.

Thanks for the info.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:26:24 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

At one time, Vista's problems were writtten about and discussed in the
computer magazaines and forums, today you read about it in CNN, ABC, AP
and all of the other mainstream media.

The segment was very interesting not so much from a trading
perspective as it was informative about Vista's problems.

Apparently, there are a lot of IT insiders who are petitioning MS to
continue to support XP until they get the Vista problems fixed.

Also mentioned was the "red circle of death" on the Xbox which is
continuing to be a problem for MS to the point where they have to put
quite a bit of money aside for the potential repair/warranty bill.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I just spoke with a Toshiba representative about their laptops. They're
selling many with XP instead of Vista, and it's possible to get them that
way right now. No extra charge, of course. The Satellite X205-SLi5 looks
interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/5xd8v7
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I saw a survey where they asked Vista users if they would prefer keeping
Vista or using the previous Windows version they were using. 90% of the
Vista users wished they could have their old OS (WinXP, Win98 etc.)

At one time, Vista's problems were writtten about and discussed in the
computer magazaines and forums, today you read about it in CNN, ABC, AP
and all of the other mainstream media.

Over 110,000 people have already signed the "Save WinXP" petition. MS
may want to put on blinders and ignore the users and try to bully their
way past all of this, but if they do, the experts on CNBC will be
correct.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...6DntwD901KB280

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/


SWS,

I really think

TROLL

I think it's a case of Vista working just fine for many people, you
included. But....it's hard to deny there *are* lots of problems affecting
many people. Shades of ME, could be. I don't believe all the negative
publicity Vista is receiving is published just because someone has it in for
MS, there's something to it.

I also think MS does have a business problem, investors sure do. The stock
price has been essentially level for the past 8 years. I made good money in
MSFT but when the bubble burst the party was over.

Why do you think they are so hot to buy Yahoo. Their OS and Office software
just cannot sustain growth any longer.

Another troll from Reggie
 

HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message ...
InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.
Troll
Yup. Nothing but.

Just for Dick....... ~giggle~



Must be something in what remains of that Atlanta water supply, since
both Reggie and Loogie claim to live in that area, and both of them are
the predominant trolls here. And I see second hand that poor dumb Loogie
is *still* trying to get me to notice, poor little **** that he is. Too
much skanky homebrew beer and pot, maybe.

2nd hand? You are a lying POS, Krause. You read EVERY post - you can't
help it.

FOAD

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.
On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I just spoke with a Toshiba representative about their laptops. They're
selling many with XP instead of Vista, and it's possible to get them that
way right now. No extra charge, of course. The Satellite X205-SLi5 looks
interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/5xd8v7

I researched Lenovo and they seem to have an excellent track record
selling and servicing to business users. They recently have set up an
educational division. My son's new school offers Dell, Apple and Lenovo
at an educational discount. When i asked the manager of the Computer
sales dept at my son's school, which PC he would recommend he said they
had substantially less problems with Lenovo.


http://shop.lenovo.com/

Lenovo

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.
On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
I saw a survey where they asked Vista users if they would prefer keeping
Vista or using the previous Windows version they were using. 90% of the
Vista users wished they could have their old OS (WinXP, Win98 etc.)

At one time, Vista's problems were writtten about and discussed in the
computer magazaines and forums, today you read about it in CNN, ABC, AP
and all of the other mainstream media.

Over 110,000 people have already signed the "Save WinXP" petition. MS
may want to put on blinders and ignore the users and try to bully their
way past all of this, but if they do, the experts on CNBC will be
correct.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...6DntwD901KB280

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

SWS,

I really think
TROLL

I think it's a case of Vista working just fine for many people, you
included. But....it's hard to deny there *are* lots of problems affecting
many people. Shades of ME, could be. I don't believe all the negative
publicity Vista is receiving is published just because someone has it in for
MS, there's something to it.

I also think MS does have a business problem, investors sure do. The stock
price has been essentially level for the past 8 years. I made good money in
MSFT but when the bubble burst the party was over.

Why do you think they are so hot to buy Yahoo. Their OS and Office software
just cannot sustain growth any longer.




I'm not denying some users are having "problems" with VISTA. I go back
to the original IBM PC, and I recall "problems" with DOS and with Win
98, 98, Win2K, XP, and Vista. I've had no major issues with VISTA.

I have a recent vintage Apple MacBook. Apple has OS problems, too. It is
now on the second Leopard OS 10.5 service pack (since last fall), and a
third is finishing up an extensive beta.

MS, of course, has the lion's share of the small comptuter OS market,
with probably hundreds of millions of users. There are probably 25,000
or more software packages that run under various iterations of Windows,
and probably 5,000 hardware devices for Windows machines, and many of
those require drivers and software that interact with the OS.

Naturally, there are going to be problems. How could it be otherwise?

What's so funny and pathetic here in this newsgroup is that we have a
couple of computer numnutzes, like, for example, "Reggie," and Herring,
and several more, people who know less about computers and computer
operating systems than my pet cats, and who post "clip'n'pastes" to make
it appear they do know something. Paying attention to these clods about
computers is like taking a ship's bridge operations class from the
former skipper of the Exxon Valdez.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.
On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I just spoke with a Toshiba representative about their laptops. They're
selling many with XP instead of Vista, and it's possible to get them that
way right now. No extra charge, of course. The Satellite X205-SLi5 looks
interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/5xd8v7

I researched Lenovo and they seem to have an excellent track record
selling and servicing to business users. They recently have set up an
educational division. My son's new school offers Dell, Apple and Lenovo
at an educational discount. When i asked the manager of the Computer
sales dept at my son's school, which PC he would recommend he said they
had substantially less problems with Lenovo.


http://shop.lenovo.com/

Lenovo

Just beware of their memory sockets. They have had problems with them
failing and it costs too much to get the sockets replaced. You just run
the laptop on 1/2 of your memory until you can't stand it anymore and
then you purchase a new laptop from some other manufacturer.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .

With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't afford
to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007 isn't
burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product lines MS
makes money on.

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:43:48 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

I love the line:

"With Windows Vista® Downgrade Service from Dell..."

What a marketing ploy.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:19:53 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.
On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

I just spoke with a Toshiba representative about their laptops. They're
selling many with XP instead of Vista, and it's possible to get them that
way right now. No extra charge, of course. The Satellite X205-SLi5 looks
interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/5xd8v7

I researched Lenovo and they seem to have an excellent track record
selling and servicing to business users. They recently have set up an
educational division. My son's new school offers Dell, Apple and Lenovo
at an educational discount. When i asked the manager of the Computer
sales dept at my son's school, which PC he would recommend he said they
had substantially less problems with Lenovo.


http://shop.lenovo.com/

Lenovo

They seem awfully expensive compared to the Toshibas. That's based on just
a cursory look. Since I'm no longer teaching, I'd probably not get a
discount. I'll look into CDW and see what they're getting.

Do they come without Vista?
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .

With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't afford
to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007 isn't
burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product lines MS
makes money on.

My copy of MS Office 2007 is still in the envelope. My wife got it for next
to nothing at work, but I've heard no good words about it. I've not had any
problems with Office 2000.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:19:53 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Throw Vista away.
On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
I just spoke with a Toshiba representative about their laptops. They're
selling many with XP instead of Vista, and it's possible to get them that
way right now. No extra charge, of course. The Satellite X205-SLi5 looks
interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/5xd8v7
I researched Lenovo and they seem to have an excellent track record
selling and servicing to business users. They recently have set up an
educational division. My son's new school offers Dell, Apple and Lenovo
at an educational discount. When i asked the manager of the Computer
sales dept at my son's school, which PC he would recommend he said they
had substantially less problems with Lenovo.


http://shop.lenovo.com/

Lenovo

They seem awfully expensive compared to the Toshibas. That's based on just
a cursory look. Since I'm no longer teaching, I'd probably not get a
discount. I'll look into CDW and see what they're getting.

Do they come without Vista?

Yes

Another troll from Reggie
 

On Apr 14, 6:20*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.
Troll
Yup. Nothing but.

Just for Dick....... ~giggle~

Must be something in what remains of that Atlanta water supply, since
both Reggie and Loogie claim to live in that area, and both of them are
the predominant trolls here. And I see second hand that poor dumb Loogie
is *still* trying to get me to notice, poor little **** that he is. Too
much skanky homebrew beer and pot, maybe.

How cute. Why don't you take your bull****, lies and insults to
Chuck's group? What a ****ing pussy, hiding behind your Bozo'z bin
name calling like a little school girl.

Another troll from Reggie
 

On Apr 14, 6:08*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
InfoWorld and CIO are all saying YES.

Troll

Yup. Nothing but.

Just for Dick....... ~giggle~

TROLL

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.

Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .

With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't afford
to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007 isn't
burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product lines MS
makes money on.

It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic

InfoWorld : Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .

With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't afford
to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007 isn't
burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product lines MS
makes money on.

It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic


There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will run
on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell are
cheap.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product
lines MS makes money on.

It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic


There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will run on
either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell are cheap.

Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?

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D.Duck wrote:
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product
lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic

There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will run on
either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell are cheap.

Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?



Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying
the latest OS...

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"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to
a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product
lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic

There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will run
on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell are
cheap.

Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?

Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying the
latest OS...


What the company's name?

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to
a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product
lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic
There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will run
on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell are
cheap.
Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?
Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying the
latest OS...


What the company's name?




www.psystar.com happy shopping!

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests to
a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two product
lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic
There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will run
on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell are
cheap.
Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?
Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying the
latest OS...


What the company's name?



Are you Jobs' bitch?

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests
to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of
the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two
product lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic
There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will
run on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell
are cheap.
Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?
Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying
the latest OS...


What the company's name?

Are you Jobs' bitch?


And what's that supposed to mean?

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D.Duck wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests
to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of
the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two
product lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic
There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will
run on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell
are cheap.
Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?
Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying
the latest OS...

What the company's name?
Are you Jobs' bitch?


And what's that supposed to mean?



Bertie (BAR) has a hard time with civilized discussions, has nothing to
say about boats, and loves to start trouble. Caveat emptor.

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D.Duck wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests
to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of
the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two
product lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic
There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will
run on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell
are cheap.
Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?
Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying
the latest OS...

What the company's name?
Are you Jobs' bitch?


And what's that supposed to mean?



Why do you care where the guy is getting his copy of MacOS?

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"BAR" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests
to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of
the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not
the market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. It's also worth noting, MS Office
2007 isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two
product lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. With XP. Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic
There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will
run on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they
sell are cheap.
Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?
Of course not. :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying
the latest OS...

What the company's name?
Are you Jobs' bitch?


And what's that supposed to mean?

Why do you care where the guy is getting his copy of MacOS?

I don't care. But I still do not understand the "bitch" comment.

I asked a simple, innocent question as to the name of the company supplying
the Windows/Apple OS machine. Is that being Jobs' bitch? If that's what
you think, you have a problem.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:02:06 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:12:43 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On CNBC this morning, there was a segment on Vista and the guests
to a
person said Vista is an unmitigated diaster and may be a sign of
the
begining of the end for Microsoft as a market leader.
Well, they have one hell of a long way to go before they are not the
market leader, but . . .
With a several year build cycle for an OS, they sure as hell can't
afford to blow another one. *It's also worth noting, MS Office 2007
isn't burning up the sales either, and those are the only two
product lines MS makes money on.
It's a strange business at this point in time. *MS has the home and
business market desktop market virtually locked up.
Computers are now doing just about everything that's being
asked of them. *With XP. *Where do they go?
They're trying to sell bells and whistles now it seems.
Unless there's something I can't see, which is entirely possible,
they've reached sort of a dead end.

--Vic
There's an upstart little company out there packaging PCs that will
run on either MS or Apple operating systems... And the boxes they sell
are cheap.
Do they have a license to use the Apple OS?
Of course not. * :)

But nothing prevents you from popping into any Apple store and buying
the latest OS...

What the company's name?
Are you Jobs' bitch?

And what's that supposed to mean?

Bertie (BAR) has a hard time with civilized discussions, has nothing to
say about boats, and loves to start trouble. Caveat emptor.- Hide quoted text -

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There's the pot calling the kettle black!!!!

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