BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   General (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/)
-   -   Tree hugger gas in boats (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/93023-tree-hugger-gas-boats.html)

Robert M. Gary March 27th 08 04:49 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 
Where I live most counties require corn in the auto gas. This has been
a major problem for many engines. The small engine repair shops are
super busy cleaning the gum out of engines and replacing carbs. The
FAA put out a directive stating that low compression engines
previously certified to run on auto gas cannot run anything that
contains ethenol. The recommendations for engines now is that you...
1) Never run gas more than 2 weeks old (buy your mower gas before you
mow)
2) Never shut down an engine with fuel in it, cut off the fuel supply
and let it run through. All mowers, edgers, etc sold in the area no
include a fuel cut-off.

I'm wondering how this affects boats. Do you drain your fuel after
each run? Is there a way to cut oft the fuel supply to work the gas
out of the system before it eats up the seals?

-robert

Robert M. Gary March 27th 08 05:11 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 
On Mar 27, 9:58*am, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"


We have had 10% ethanol in all gasoline in Connecticut for several
years now. The only real problems for boats were for a brief
transition period. That was due to the ethanol dissolving crud in old
dirty gas tanks, which then clogged jets. Clean the tank and jets and
everything is good. A few old boats had fiberglass fuel tanks that
were damaged by the alcohol. Other than that, it really hasn't been a
big deal at all. I have lots of small yard machines, and they all run
fine with the new stuff too. I've always used Stabil in all gass for
small engines, and Stabil has even been reformulated for gas
containing ethanol.

RELAX!


That's good to know. A friend who has a lot of chain saws (a bit of an
odd guy) got me onto Stabil. I used it in a car I had that had been
sitting and it worked really well. Its good to know that it works well
with ethanol gas. Do you know if it works well with 2 stroke gas too?
I keep regular and mixed gas in my garage for my variety of small
motors (not really boat related though because 2 strokes are banned
almost everywhere in the state on lakes)

-Robert

Vic Smith March 27th 08 06:13 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:58:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

Where I live most counties require corn in the auto gas. This has been
a major problem for many engines. The small engine repair shops are
super busy cleaning the gum out of engines and replacing carbs. The
FAA put out a directive stating that low compression engines
previously certified to run on auto gas cannot run anything that
contains ethenol. The recommendations for engines now is that you...
1) Never run gas more than 2 weeks old (buy your mower gas before you
mow)
2) Never shut down an engine with fuel in it, cut off the fuel supply
and let it run through. All mowers, edgers, etc sold in the area no
include a fuel cut-off.

I'm wondering how this affects boats. Do you drain your fuel after
each run? Is there a way to cut oft the fuel supply to work the gas
out of the system before it eats up the seals?

-robert


We have had 10% ethanol in all gasoline in Connecticut for several
years now. The only real problems for boats were for a brief
transition period. That was due to the ethanol dissolving crud in old
dirty gas tanks, which then clogged jets. Clean the tank and jets and
everything is good. A few old boats had fiberglass fuel tanks that
were damaged by the alcohol. Other than that, it really hasn't been a
big deal at all. I have lots of small yard machines, and they all run
fine with the new stuff too. I've always used Stabil in all gass for
small engines, and Stabil has even been reformulated for gas
containing ethanol.

RELAX!

I never use Stabil or any other such snake oil., and don't pay any
attention to the gas I've left in the mower and weed whacker.
In the spring they start right up.
Why are you so up tight about this?

--Vic ( A laid back dude)

Eisboch March 27th 08 06:25 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
...



I'm wondering how this affects boats. Do you drain your fuel after
each run? Is there a way to cut oft the fuel supply to work the gas
out of the system before it eats up the seals?

-robert



As salty pointed out, there doesn't seem to be a long list of problems,
other than a few fiberglass fuel tanks.

I've been running a few 1960's vintage cars on corn gas for a few years now.
They were originally designed for leaded gas, let alone having to now run on
10 percent ethanol. So far, they run fine and no gas lines have melted.

Eisboch



Eisboch March 27th 08 06:27 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...


I never use Stabil or any other such snake oil., and don't pay any
attention to the gas I've left in the mower and weed whacker.
In the spring they start right up.
Why are you so up tight about this?

--Vic ( A laid back dude)



See? It works. Pretty soon you'll forget about mowing the lawn.

Eisboch



Robert M. Gary March 27th 08 06:28 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 
On Mar 27, 11:13*am, Vic Smith
wrote:

I never use Stabil or any other such snake oil., and don't pay any
attention to the gas I've left in the mower and weed whacker.
In the spring they start right up.
Why are you so up tight about this?

--Vic ( A laid back dude)-


I'm guessing you live in an area where you can buy pure gas. I've
spent several hundred fixing engines. I also used to fly for a sea
plane operation that really appreciated being able to buy gas at the
doc. But you're right. I can't change the fuel standards so I should
just relax about it. I was concerned about boat maintenance in that
regard though.

-Robert

[email protected] March 27th 08 08:20 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 
On Mar 27, 5:15*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:28:31 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"





wrote:
On Mar 27, 11:13?am, Vic Smith
wrote:


I never use Stabil or any other such snake oil., and don't pay any
attention to the gas I've left in the mower and weed whacker.
In the spring they start right up.
Why are you so up tight about this?


--Vic ( A laid back dude)-


I'm guessing you live in an area where you can buy pure gas. I've
spent several hundred fixing engines. I also used to fly for a sea
plane operation that really appreciated being able to buy gas at the
doc. But you're right. I can't change the fuel standards so I should
just relax about it. I was concerned about boat maintenance in that
regard though.


It's all 10% ethanol here. *Hey, I was more joking than anything, so I
won't recommend to not use Stabil. *I feel guilty about not using it,
more from plain laziness than anything. *The mower is a 5 year old
Sears/Honda 4-stroke engine and the whacker a 3 year old Sears 80-100
buck something or other 2-cycle. *Maybe I've been lucky and it'll
catch up to me this year. *I'll know in about a month when I fire them
up.

--Vic

--Vic *- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My weedeater and blower never get Stabil, and they work fine. My
riding mower, however, likes to have Stabil put in it in the fall, as
does my 135hp Evinrude.

Vic Smith March 27th 08 09:15 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:28:31 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Mar 27, 11:13?am, Vic Smith
wrote:

I never use Stabil or any other such snake oil., and don't pay any
attention to the gas I've left in the mower and weed whacker.
In the spring they start right up.
Why are you so up tight about this?

--Vic ( A laid back dude)-


I'm guessing you live in an area where you can buy pure gas. I've
spent several hundred fixing engines. I also used to fly for a sea
plane operation that really appreciated being able to buy gas at the
doc. But you're right. I can't change the fuel standards so I should
just relax about it. I was concerned about boat maintenance in that
regard though.

It's all 10% ethanol here. Hey, I was more joking than anything, so I
won't recommend to not use Stabil. I feel guilty about not using it,
more from plain laziness than anything. The mower is a 5 year old
Sears/Honda 4-stroke engine and the whacker a 3 year old Sears 80-100
buck something or other 2-cycle. Maybe I've been lucky and it'll
catch up to me this year. I'll know in about a month when I fire them
up.

--Vic

--Vic


Vic Smith March 27th 08 11:36 PM

Tree hugger gas in boats
 
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:31:48 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:13:22 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I never use Stabil or any other such snake oil., and don't pay any
attention to the gas I've left in the mower and weed whacker.
In the spring they start right up.
Why are you so up tight about this?

--Vic ( A laid back dude


Same here. I use my boat enough to be sure the gas is always fresh but
chain saws, weed eaters and lawn mowers get stored the last way they
were running. If it doesn't start, good excuse to go boating.
Unfortunately I can always get them running. I do try to rollover the
gas cans. I dump them in the boat when I am filling every can I have
(trip to Sams/costco)


Wait a minute. You forgot to say how long the winter is down there.

--Vic


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:31 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com