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Stingray kills Michigan woman in Florida Keys

Associated Press - March 20, 2008 12:44 PM ET

MARATHON, Fla. (AP) - Officials say a Michigan woman died after a
stingray jumped out of the water and struck her in the upper body in the
Florida Keys.

Wildlife officials say the spotted eagle ray hit the 55-year-old woman
in the face or neck while she was in a boat with her family Thursday.
Her name and hometown aren't being released yet.

Officials say it's not clear whether the animal's barb struck her, or if
the impact killed her. It's also not clear how big it was.

Spotted eagle rays can grow up to 17 feet in length, weigh up to 500
pounds and have a wingspan of up to 10 feet.

They are known to occasionally jump out of the water but are not
aggressive and use the venomous tip at the end of their tail as a
defense mechanism.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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On Mar 20, 1:08*pm, hk wrote:
Stingray kills Michigan woman in Florida Keys

Associated Press - March 20, 2008 12:44 PM ET

MARATHON, Fla. (AP) - Officials say a Michigan woman died after a
stingray jumped out of the water and struck her in the upper body in the
Florida Keys.

Wildlife officials say the spotted eagle ray hit the 55-year-old woman
in the face or neck while she was in a boat with her family Thursday.
Her name and hometown aren't being released yet.

Officials say it's not clear whether the animal's barb struck her, or if
the impact killed her. It's also not clear how big it was.

Spotted eagle rays can grow up to 17 feet in length, weigh up to 500
pounds and have a wingspan of up to 10 feet.

They are known to occasionally jump out of the water but are not
aggressive and use the venomous tip at the end of their tail as a
defense mechanism.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Thanks. You are the only person on earth that can read the news so we
all need you to cut and paste any article you see.

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hk wrote:
Stingray kills Michigan woman in Florida Keys

Associated Press - March 20, 2008 12:44 PM ET

MARATHON, Fla. (AP) - Officials say a Michigan woman died after a
stingray jumped out of the water and struck her in the upper body in the
Florida Keys.

Wildlife officials say the spotted eagle ray hit the 55-year-old woman
in the face or neck while she was in a boat with her family Thursday.
Her name and hometown aren't being released yet.

Officials say it's not clear whether the animal's barb struck her, or if
the impact killed her. It's also not clear how big it was.

Spotted eagle rays can grow up to 17 feet in length, weigh up to 500
pounds and have a wingspan of up to 10 feet.

They are known to occasionally jump out of the water but are not
aggressive and use the venomous tip at the end of their tail as a
defense mechanism.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

I saw a stringray jump out of the water when it was being chased by a
nurse shark, a very impressive sight.

Everytime I am in the keys or south Florida, I always wear water shoes
and "shuffle" when walking in the water, that way you don't step on them
or other potentially dangerous fish.

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wrote
Thanks. You are the only person on earth that can read the
news so we all need you to cut and paste any article you see.

I really don't mind anyone c&p'ing a news article to try to get a discussion
started. At least this one's kind of on topic. (For the record, I'm against
stingrays jumping into boats and killing 55 year-old women.)

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Ernest Scribbler wrote:
wrote
Thanks. You are the only person on earth that can read the
news so we all need you to cut and paste any article you see.

I really don't mind anyone c&p'ing a news article to try to get a discussion
started. At least this one's kind of on topic. (For the record, I'm against
stingrays jumping into boats and killing 55 year-old women.)




I used to be wary of sharks, especially when I was messing around in
Florida waters...but these damned rays, I never considered them a
problem until "Crikey" bought it last year.

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"hk" wrote
these damned rays, I never considered them a problem until "Crikey" bought
it last year.

I kinda figured he was asking for it. (Whoever had stingray in the "what
animal will kill Steve Irwin" pool must have made out like a bandit.) Sounds
like this woman in Florida was minding her own business.

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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.

I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Ernest Scribbler wrote:
wrote
Thanks. You are the only person on earth that can read the
news so we all need you to cut and paste any article you see.

I really don't mind anyone c&p'ing a news article to try to get a
discussion started. At least this one's kind of on topic. (For the
record, I'm against stingrays jumping into boats and killing 55 year-old
women.)


I used to be wary of sharks, especially when I was messing around in
Florida waters...but these damned rays, I never considered them a problem
until "Crikey" bought it last year.

Ya, but Crikey was unnecessarily messing with them.

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JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.


Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.



Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with sharks,
rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In Mexico I hand
feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I was with, did this
with any of his divers who were interested. No one had died yet.

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.

I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.


Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.


I think it's important to remember that unfortunate events like this are
very, very rare.
You are in far more danger driving down to the local grocery store.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.


I think it's important to remember that unfortunate events like this are
very, very rare.
You are in far more danger driving down to the local grocery store.

Eisboch



The hell you say. I was almost run over by a 1965 Stingray in the
parking lot at the supermarket.

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with sharks,
rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In Mexico I hand
feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I was with, did this
with any of his divers who were interested. No one had died yet.



Why do you want to question *my* preference?




Because that is his rice bowl.

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On Mar 20, 5:06*pm, wrote:


Crikey should have just gone on a tourist boat ride
to "Stingray City" in the Caymans. They drop you off in knee deep water that is infested with big stingrays and just about the only thing they tell you is not
to get on TOP of one. Let them swim over you.

I've been there (guess lots of people have!). I remember first they
have you "pet" the rays as they swim under your hand, then they give
you food to put on your palm and the animal comes over, hovers above
your hand ums it right out. During the first activity my very
squeamish wife freaked out from just touching them and just hopped
back on the boat for tue duration. Well this story has been pretty
pointless I guess. At the time of course I thought nothing of it,
years later when "Crikey" (glad you guys are referring to him with a
nickname 'coz I can't think of his actual name, Steve something I
think) happened, I was kind of scared retroactively! Wonder if that
hurt their business at Stingray City.

richforman

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I stepped on one about 4 feet wide a few years back. Was in about 2 feet of
water, scared the hell out of both of us. No harm no foul though.
Brad
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.

I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.


Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.


I think it's important to remember that unfortunate events like this are
very, very rare.
You are in far more danger driving down to the local grocery store.

Eisboch


I agree these sort of events are rare, but they do happen. However, I
don't even like the thought of being stung by a jellyfish.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

JimH wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.

I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.


Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.


Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with sharks,
rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In Mexico I hand
feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I was with, did this
with any of his divers who were interested. No one had died yet.

Of course, that's what the guy in the Bahamas used to say, up until late
February... http://snipurl.com/228zz

DT

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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:31:51 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


I saw a stringray jump out of the water when it was being chased by a
nurse shark, a very impressive sight.

I used to fish that area quite a bit. On more than one occasion, I would
be sitting quietly fishing, and a ray would crash back into the water.
It would startle the hell out of you.

On another occasion, I was about to pull a snapper into the boat, when @
5' barracuda decided he wanted it. That sucker cleared enough water that
I was literally looking up at it. Now, that was an impressive sight.
All that remained of the snapper, was the head.

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with sharks,
rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In Mexico I hand
feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I was with, did this
with any of his divers who were interested. No one had died yet.



Why do you want to question *my* preference?



I am not questioning your preferences at all, I was just commenting that
the risk of swimming in the ocean is less than most of the other
activities you and most people do in there daily lives.

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hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with
sharks, rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In
Mexico I hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I was
with, did this with any of his divers who were interested. No one
had died yet.



Why do you want to question *my* preference?



Because that is his rice bowl.

Harry,
You need to learn how to read for comprehension. What made you think I
was questioning his preferences?

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On Mar 20, 7:16*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
messagenews:z_qdnQtFROvMIH_anZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@comca st.com...
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. *He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with
sharks, rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. *In
Mexico I hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. *The dive guide I was
with, did this with any of his divers who were interested. *No one
had died yet.

Why do you want to question *my* preference?

Because that is his rice bowl.

Harry,
You need to learn how to read for comprehension. *What made you think I
was questioning his preferences?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hey, you are OT, we are supposed to be talking about

Harry...

You DUNce, with three caps!

heh..

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JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.


Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.



The Universe is a mysterious place, warp17.

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Another stingray death - this time in the Keys
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:


I think it's important to remember that unfortunate events like this are
very, very rare.
You are in far more danger driving down to the local grocery store.

Eisboch

The hell you say. I was almost run over by a 1965 Stingray in the parking
lot at the supermarket.


Yeah, .... did it have Connecticut tags and a weird antenna?

Eisboch

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...


I think it's important to remember that unfortunate events like this are
very, very rare.
You are in far more danger driving down to the local grocery store.

Eisboch


I agree these sort of events are rare, but they do happen. However, I
don't even like the thought of being stung by a jellyfish.



I'll tell ya, there's more out there that can hurt you bad than you
realize.
I have an acquaintance ... a dock neighbor who was (and still is) big time
into fishing. A couple of years ago, he was out on his new 37' Sportsfish
with a bunch of guys fishing and they hooked up with something .... I never
found out exactly what it was. They were not in coastal waters ... more
like 40- 50 miles out. They hauled it into the boat and the fish gashed his
leg. No big deal initially. But a week later, he was in the hospital, near
death with a massive infection. It was touch and go for him for about a
month.

He recovered, but it took over a year, walking on crutches and having to
change dressings two or three times a day.
There were no antibiotics that would touch it. He showed me the veins in
his affected leg and I'll tell ya, it was nasty.

Eisboch

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with
sharks, rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In
Mexico I hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I
was with, did this with any of his divers who were interested. No
one had died yet.



Why do you want to question *my* preference?



Because that is his rice bowl.

Harry,
You need to learn how to read for comprehension. What made you think I
was questioning his preferences?



Because you are a full-time snark. That's your only reason for coming here.

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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:16:25 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...


I think it's important to remember that unfortunate events like this are
very, very rare.
You are in far more danger driving down to the local grocery store.

I agree these sort of events are rare, but they do happen. However, I
don't even like the thought of being stung by a jellyfish.

I'll tell ya, there's more out there that can hurt you bad than you
realize.
I have an acquaintance ... a dock neighbor who was (and still is) big time
into fishing. A couple of years ago, he was out on his new 37' Sportsfish
with a bunch of guys fishing and they hooked up with something .... I never
found out exactly what it was. They were not in coastal waters ... more
like 40- 50 miles out. They hauled it into the boat and the fish gashed his
leg. No big deal initially. But a week later, he was in the hospital, near
death with a massive infection. It was touch and go for him for about a
month.

He recovered, but it took over a year, walking on crutches and having to
change dressings two or three times a day.
There were no antibiotics that would touch it. He showed me the veins in
his affected leg and I'll tell ya, it was nasty.

There's a guy here in Woodstock who does a lot of salt water fly
fishing. Latched into a blue fish out by Fisher's Island and the
thing bit him.

He didn't think about it, washed it out and went on fishing.

That afternoon his whole right arm was swollen and his hand looked
like the end of a wood gold club.

It was a about a month before they got it back under control enough
that it looked human again.

I don't know if you remember, but a couple of years ago, a guy in RI
was bitten by a blue fish and had a case of necrotizing fasciitis - it
was in the news.

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers, the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause serious
injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with sharks,
rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In Mexico I hand
feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I was with, did this
with any of his divers who were interested. No one had died yet.


Why do you want to question *my* preference?
I am not questioning your preferences at all, I was just commenting that
the risk of swimming in the ocean is less than most of the other
activities you and most people do in there daily lives.


It was just another of your typical snarky posts here Reggie. You were
certainly quick to offer your latest to me.



I was talking about injures from Stingrays, it is not a big deal. In
the United States there are over 8000 snake bites each year, over 5000
poisonous spider bites each year, over 4,000 die from drowning each year
and there are over 800,000 dog bites that require stitches.

I have no problems if someone wants to have unfounded phobias, but I
would hate for someone reading this thread to think swimming in the
ocean or in the Keys is a high risk venture.

It just isn't.

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers,
the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with sharks,
rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In Mexico I
hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I was with, did
this with any of his divers who were interested. No one had died yet.


Why do you want to question *my* preference?
I am not questioning your preferences at all, I was just commenting that
the risk of swimming in the ocean is less than most of the other
activities you and most people do in there daily lives.

It was just another of your typical snarky posts here Reggie. You were
certainly quick to offer your latest to me.
I was talking about injures from Stingrays, it is not a big deal. In the
United States there are over 8000 snake bites each year, over 5000
poisonous spider bites each year, over 4,000 die from drowning each year
and there are over 800,000 dog bites that require stitches.

I have no problems if someone wants to have unfounded phobias, but I would
hate for someone reading this thread to think swimming in the ocean or in
the Keys is a high risk venture.

It just isn't.


You are a liar by trying to twist what I actually posted. Where did I say
it was a "high risk venture"?

All I said was that I prefer not to swim in areas with creatures that can
injure or kill you.

Try to get over this infatuation you have with me and my posts.



Do yourself a favor, ignore my posts, put me in your kill filter, you
will keep your blood pressure down.

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers,
the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died
several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with
sharks, rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In
Mexico I hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I
was with, did this with any of his divers who were interested. No
one had died yet.


Why do you want to question *my* preference?
I am not questioning your preferences at all, I was just commenting
that the risk of swimming in the ocean is less than most of the other
activities you and most people do in there daily lives.
It was just another of your typical snarky posts here Reggie. You were
certainly quick to offer your latest to me.
I was talking about injures from Stingrays, it is not a big deal. In
the United States there are over 8000 snake bites each year, over 5000
poisonous spider bites each year, over 4,000 die from drowning each year
and there are over 800,000 dog bites that require stitches.

I have no problems if someone wants to have unfounded phobias, but I
would hate for someone reading this thread to think swimming in the
ocean or in the Keys is a high risk venture.

It just isn't.

You are a liar by trying to twist what I actually posted. Where did I
say it was a "high risk venture"?

All I said was that I prefer not to swim in areas with creatures that can
injure or kill you.

Try to get over this infatuation you have with me and my posts.
Do yourself a favor, ignore my posts, put me in your kill filter, you will
keep your blood pressure down.


As usual you have it ass backwards Reggie.

Stop your infatuation with me (and a couple of others here) and your Karma
will improve. Drop the snarky attitude and it will improve even more.

Got it?



I am not going to take your bait and get into a ****ing contest with a
little twit. My comment was virtually the same comment that Eisboch
made right after I made my comment. His was not "snarky" and neither
was mine. They were both accurate and if you didn't have this
infatuation with following me around with your chest all puffed up like
a preteen trying to impress all the girls watching him try to pick a
fight you would have realized that. My Karma is doing very well thank
you, my boat, my house, my family and my health and my life is doing
just fine, but I do appreciate you concern.

Got it?

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:47:07 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


There's a guy here in Woodstock who does a lot of salt water fly
fishing. Latched into a blue fish out by Fisher's Island and the thing
bit him.

It doesn't only have to be sal****er. I've had a few pickerel scrapes,
not really bites, and everyone got infected, not swollen arm infected,
but I was surprised by the speed and the severity of the infection.

I've always been very careful with bluefish. I not near as worried about
infection, as loss of body parts. Those suckers are down right nasty.


I don't know if you remember, but a couple of years ago, a guy in RI was
bitten by a blue fish and had a case of necrotizing fasciitis - it was
in the news.

Yuck!

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On Mar 20, 9:27*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in messagenews:5e2dnfO459Y7kX7anZ2dnUVZ_quhnZ2d@comca st.com...





JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
m...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
messagenews:z_qdnQtFROvMIH_anZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@comca st.com...
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
news:4td5u3dldvj9s8ltkpvo9sadlp08dalub8@4ax. com...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. *He was near Ft Myers,
the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with sharks,
rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. *In Mexico I
hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. *The dive guide I was with, did
this with any of his divers who were interested. *No one had died yet.

Why do you want to question *my* preference?
I am not questioning your preferences at all, I was just commenting that
the risk of swimming in the ocean is less than most of the other
activities you and most people do in there daily lives.

It was just another of your typical snarky posts here Reggie. *You were
certainly quick to offer your latest to me.

I was talking about injures from Stingrays, it is not a big deal. *In the
United States there are over 8000 snake bites each year, over 5000
poisonous spider bites each year, over 4,000 die from drowning each year
and there are over 800,000 dog bites that require stitches.

I have no problems if someone wants to have unfounded phobias, but I would
hate for someone reading this thread to think swimming in the ocean or in
the Keys is a high risk venture.

It just isn't.

You are a liar by trying to twist what I actually posted. * *Where did I say
it was a "high risk venture"?

All I said was that I prefer not to swim in areas with creatures that can
injure or kill you.

Try to get over this infatuation you have with me and my posts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You must be a lot of fun. Do you just stay in your house with the
doors locked, in full body armour, etc.? What a wimp.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers,
the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with
sharks, rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In
Mexico I hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I
was with, did this with any of his divers who were interested. No
one had died yet.



Why do you want to question *my* preference?



Because that is his rice bowl.

Harry,
You need to learn how to read for comprehension. What made you think
I was questioning his preferences?



Because you are a full-time snark. That's your only reason for coming here.

What purpose do you serve?

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:12:31 -0500, wrote:

This is not the same animal that killed the "Crikey" guy or that
pokes
snowbirds in the leg.
I knew a guy who died that way in the 80s. He was near Ft Myers,
the
ray hit him in the leg, it became badly infected and he died
several
days later.

Swimming in water filled with creatures that can kill or cause
serious injury to you is not my cup of tea.
Well that removes 95% of the earth's waters.

The fact that this made front page news, shows how rare it is.

I and hundreds of thousands of others, have been swimming with
sharks, rays and barracudas many times, without any problems. In
Mexico I hand feed Nurse sharks and moray eels. The dive guide I
was with, did this with any of his divers who were interested. No
one had died yet.


Why do you want to question *my* preference?
I am not questioning your preferences at all, I was just commenting
that the risk of swimming in the ocean is less than most of the other
activities you and most people do in there daily lives.
It was just another of your typical snarky posts here Reggie. You were
certainly quick to offer your latest to me.
I was talking about injures from Stingrays, it is not a big deal. In
the United States there are over 8000 snake bites each year, over 5000
poisonous spider bites each year, over 4,000 die from drowning each year
and there are over 800,000 dog bites that require stitches.

I have no problems if someone wants to have unfounded phobias, but I
would hate for someone reading this thread to think swimming in the
ocean or in the Keys is a high risk venture.

It just isn't.

You are a liar by trying to twist what I actually posted. Where did I
say it was a "high risk venture"?

All I said was that I prefer not to swim in areas with creatures that can
injure or kill you.

Try to get over this infatuation you have with me and my posts.
Do yourself a favor, ignore my posts, put me in your kill filter, you will
keep your blood pressure down.


As usual you have it ass backwards Reggie.

Stop your infatuation with me (and a couple of others here) and your Karma
will improve. Drop the snarky attitude and it will improve even more.

Got it?



You better take him VERY seriously. He IS warp17!

Got it?

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On Mar 20, 12:08*pm, hk wrote:
Stingray kills Michigan woman in Florida Keys

Associated Press - March 20, 2008 12:44 PM ET

MARATHON, Fla. (AP) - Officials say a Michigan woman died after a
stingray jumped out of the water and struck her in the upper body in the
Florida Keys.

Wildlife officials say the spotted eagle ray hit the 55-year-old woman
in the face or neck while she was in a boat with her family Thursday.
Her name and hometown aren't being released yet.

Officials say it's not clear whether the animal's barb struck her, or if
the impact killed her. It's also not clear how big it was.

Spotted eagle rays can grow up to 17 feet in length, weigh up to 500
pounds and have a wingspan of up to 10 feet.

They are known to occasionally jump out of the water but are not
aggressive and use the venomous tip at the end of their tail as a
defense mechanism.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=71ikwk7C0DI&feature=user

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:31:46 -0400, DK wrote:

Because you are a full-time snark. That's your only reason for coming here.

What purpose do you serve?

Snark bait.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:31:46 -0400, DK wrote:

Because you are a full-time snark. That's your only reason for coming here.
What purpose do you serve?

Snark bait.


Very true.

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:49:58 -0400, DK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:31:46 -0400, DK wrote:

Because you are a full-time snark. That's your only reason for coming here.
What purpose do you serve?

Snark bait.


Very true.

Harry is a master baiter.