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HK March 22nd 08 08:00 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
Tim wrote:
On Mar 22, 2:02 pm, wrote:
On Mar 22, 11:17 am, Tim wrote:





wrote:
Hey Tim, what do you know about crackly old amps? 1980's peavey sounds
like it is always playing through a buzz box...
Probably needs the pots cleaned and connections checked. It's kind of
hard to tear up an old peavey. i won't say their bullet proof, but
close to it. you might check the plug-in and see if it's properly
grounded to the outlet. does it have a reverse polarity switch?
probably not. It sounds to me like itls in the connections and
ground.
also you could have a torn speaker cone. Interesting that before
Richie Blackmore started playing with Deep Purple, he couldn't afford
a "Good amp" with effects, so he took a razor blade and cut slices in
the speaker so he could get that "fuzz" tone.
Evidently it worked for him.


I cleaned a
bunch of the connections and can get a relatively clean sound in solo,
but as soon as I hit a chord, it really roughs up. Any help would be
apprecialted.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Turn down the gain? I'm sure you also tried the low side imput . It's
possible that your pickup[s] are too high/close to the strings as
well, and getting a harsh or too tight of an electrical field. (just
a thought)

Well, not looking at the amp I can't say much. but...

Plug it in, and flip the polarity switch, and see if the hum is
reduced. If not, then scratch that idea.

your pickups shouldn't have anything to do with what you're
describing, Scott. the pots (volume, tone, effects etc.) should be
accessable and there would or I'll say " should" be like a pin hole
or some say a vent hole on them, and usually a slight squirt of
siliconized electric contact cleaner in them should take care of
cleaning and lubricating them.

Outside of any of that, I'[m pretty well clueles.

you might check the guys at alt.guitar, alt.guitar.amps or even
alt.audio.pro

I'm sure there's those a lot better than I that could help.



Get a Martin D28.

http://tinyurl.com/2uyrvk

No feedback, no rough sounds.

Eisboch March 22nd 08 09:13 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...




Does the speaker have foam suspension? After some years that foam will
break down. I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. Even new ones are hard to the rim.

But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.

Eisboch




Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] March 22nd 08 09:41 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...




Does the speaker have foam suspension? After some years that foam will
break down. I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. Even new ones are hard to the rim.

But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.

[email protected] March 23rd 08 12:33 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.

Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] March 23rd 08 12:54 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.

Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Take the grill off the front of the speaker, put your hands on either
side of the speaker and gently press the speaker cone in a couple of
times. You will proably hear a scratching noise and the movement will
feel rough. That means the voice coil is bad. If you don't get the
scratching noise and sandpaper feel, then it's good and probably the
cone is bad.

[email protected] March 23rd 08 06:22 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.

If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?

Tim March 23rd 08 06:31 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:





On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....

[email protected] March 23rd 08 06:36 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 23, 2:31*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:

On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end..


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?

Tim March 24th 08 12:18 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 23, 1:36*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31*pm, Tim wrote:





On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........

Tim March 24th 08 03:39 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 23, 10:09*pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Mar 23, 1:36*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31*pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?

:-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...

But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.

[email protected] March 24th 08 04:50 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 23, 11:39*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09*pm, JG2U wrote:





On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31*pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...

But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:

http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


Tim March 24th 08 05:25 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 


wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:





On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...

But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:

http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!

[email protected] March 24th 08 05:30 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 23, 11:39*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09*pm, JG2U wrote:





On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31*pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...

But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yup, my guitar is awesome clean, that's what I am looking for. I want
to hear those pearly gates sing;)

Tim March 24th 08 05:43 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 


JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:





On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:

On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.

Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.

But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.

Could be a bad voice coil.

That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.

Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.

Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?

Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.

If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I suppose anythings possible.....

but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?

:-)


Again, Absolutely! Thats the main reason I have about 60% hearing
loss in my left ear. Too many years of Marshall stacks and Ampeg or
SWR bass rigs, and the likes of Steppenwolf, Joe Walsh and Foghat (and
gobs of others)

What a glorious way to go deaf!


[email protected] March 25th 08 03:22 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 24, 1:25Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:


On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...


But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:


http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....

Tim March 25th 08 04:41 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 


wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:


On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
....


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...


But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:


http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?

eeeeeech!

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 25th 08 04:43 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?

eeeeeech!


My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.

[email protected] March 25th 08 04:50 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 12:41Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:


On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
....


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...


But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:


http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?

eeeeeech!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes!

[email protected] March 25th 08 04:51 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 12:43Â*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?


eeeeeech!


My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). Â*He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How's it play and sound?

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 25th 08 04:52 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!

My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How's it play and sound?


It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.

[email protected] March 25th 08 06:16 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 2:55*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:43:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is

Here wrote:

My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). *He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.


How high is the transom on that Parker?
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)


Parkers have very low transom, everyone knows that!

[email protected] March 25th 08 06:18 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 12:52Â*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:


wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). Â*He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


How's it play and sound?


It sounds good and he enjoys it. Â*He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. Â*I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.

John H.[_3_] March 25th 08 06:55 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:43:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:



My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.


How high is the transom on that Parker?
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

HK March 25th 08 07:53 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some
years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired
and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam
suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or
otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says
that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords,
it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond
the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you
play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers
are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on
the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at
the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you
could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started
playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it
being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to
be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and
slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a
bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really
sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of
neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic
guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How's it play and sound?


It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.




I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?

[email protected] March 25th 08 07:56 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 3:53Â*pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:


wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some
years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired
and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam
suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or
otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says
that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords,
it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond
the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you
play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers
are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on
the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at
the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you
could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started
playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it
being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to
be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and
slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a
bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really
sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of
neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). Â*He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic
guitar.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


How's it play and sound?


It sounds good and he enjoys it. Â*He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. Â*I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.


I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Awe, it's Harry, the childish name calling and petty insult pussy boy.
Still hiding behind your Bozo's bin like a little sissy? Still lying
with every breath you take?

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 25th 08 10:38 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:43:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:


My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.


How high is the transom on that Parker?


It is a Parker, so it is low, wet and pounds.


Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 25th 08 10:43 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some
years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers
repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam
suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or
otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says
that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud
chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond
the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when
you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers
are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on
the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at
the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet,
you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started
playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about
it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to
be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and
slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a
bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really
sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of
neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic
guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How's it play and sound?


It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play
so I have no idea how it plays.




I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?


Nah, my son is backpacking his way through SE Asia, India and North
Africa. He is either in Cambodia or India right now. He starts his PhD
program in the fall, going to a first rate school, rated number 1 in his
field of study. Just so you know, it is not the University of Kansas,
which if your field of study is wheat, is probably a nice 3rd tier
school. Did I mention that he has a complete scholarship and
including a very generous stipend?

John H.[_3_] March 25th 08 10:57 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 25, 3:53*pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:






How's it play and sound?


It sounds good and he enjoys it. *He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. *I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.


I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Awe, it's Harry, the childish name calling and petty insult pussy boy.
Still hiding behind your Bozo's bin like a little sissy? Still lying
with every breath you take?


Loogy, Harry does what he must to get people to talk with him. Keep that in
mind.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] March 26th 08 12:14 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.


Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.

I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.

DK March 26th 08 12:39 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 25, 3:53 pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





How's it play and sound?
It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.
I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Awe, it's Harry, the childish name calling and petty insult pussy boy.
Still hiding behind your Bozo's bin like a little sissy? Still lying
with every breath you take?


Loogy, Harry does what he must to get people to talk with him. Keep that in
mind.


And he reads *every* word just like Donnie.

Tim March 26th 08 01:24 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 7:14*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.


Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. *I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.

I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. *Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.


I was testing a Parker bass once

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1994_11984143

I really didn't care for the tonal quality of it. for active it seemed
a bit light. Not much lower end. Besides. I thought it kinda looked
like a tick to me.

S Gretch Country Gentleman, eh? Boy do I have a story about the one
that got away.

*kicking myself almost daily for 30 years*

Don White March 26th 08 01:27 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 

"DK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 25, 3:53 pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





How's it play and sound?
It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play
so
I have no idea how it plays.
I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Awe, it's Harry, the childish name calling and petty insult pussy boy.
Still hiding behind your Bozo's bin like a little sissy? Still lying
with every breath you take?


Loogy, Harry does what he must to get people to talk with him. Keep that
in
mind.


And he reads *every* word just like Donnie.


Read this ...Wordy Boy.



Eisboch March 26th 08 09:17 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.


Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.

I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.



Tell me more about the Strat and the Gretsch.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] March 26th 08 10:26 AM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:17:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.


Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.

I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.


Tell me more about the Strat and the Gretsch.


The Strat is a '64 pre-CBS in Sunburst and has the single coil
pickups. It has a rosewood fretboard and according to the serial
number it might be a '63 - as in made in late '63 and sold/or stamped
in '64. It's just a plain old Strat - never been modified, tweaked,
torqued or otherwise diddled with.

The Gretsch is a '66. It has been retrofitted with a new fretboard so
it's not all original. It also has been played by Chet Atkins and has
his autograph - a real autograph. :)


[email protected] March 26th 08 12:35 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 8:53*pm, "JimH" wrote:
Tell us about your boat DK.


I thought you were going away?
Leave. No one here will miss you.
I noticed over on Chuck's board that one of the first posts you made
you made certain to include that your son is in the Marines! Still
using your son to boost your ego.....what a shame.

[email protected] March 26th 08 12:46 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Mar 25, 8:14*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.


Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. *I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.


I still rock (even got on stage awhile back!) so I use my strat alot.
It's my number one guitar (candy apple red, to boot!). For acoustic
I've not got anything too far out, but I've got a decent Takamine:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...tar?sku=516427


I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. *Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.


I like the sound of the Jag, and the Jazzmaster.


Tim March 26th 08 01:04 PM

I Am Rich
 
On Mar 10, 9:32*am, BAR wrote:
The National Lottery
OFFICE OF DR.MARK LAMBERT
EURO MILLIONS PROMO
PRIZE CLAIM/ VERIFICATION DEPARTMENT
Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1, Ireland
(Customer-Services)

Dear E-mail Bearer,

You have won the sum of 1,350,000 Euro. in the Irish Online Sweepstake Promo
held on 10th March 2008. Your Ref Number: Ref: IR/90020X2/07), To further
the claims of your prize, you are advise to contact your claims department
with the below informations.

Full Names:
Address:
Sex:
Age:
Occupation:
Tel / Mobile / Fax #
Nationality:
Country Of Residence:

Contact Person: Dr. Mark Lambert
E-mail:
Mobile Phone: +44 704 572 2823
Office Line: +44-207-179-7777

Congratulations once again.
Yours faithfully,
Sir Robert Riddy
Online Coordinator

Ref Number: Ref: IR/90020X2/07


And in the Name of God, too!
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''

From Frank Agogo
Abidjan,Cote d'Ivoire
West Africa,

Greetings in the name of God.

My name is Frank Agogo from Sierra Leone. My father and I escaped
from our country at the heat of the civil war ,As a result of the
political instability in my country even after the war,My father
established his cocoa and coffee export business in Abidjan,Ivory
Coast.He was in Buake, a northern city to negotiate for the purchase
of a cocoaplantation when he was shot and killed by the rebel troupes
fighting to takeover the government of the country on the 22nd
September, 2002. The death of my father has now made me an orphan and
there by exposing me to danger.

Before the unfortunate death, My late father had in his personal
account with a bank here the sum of $2.5m. As a result of the present
in security of lives and property in this country,
I wish request that you assist me use your account in your country to
transfer the balance of my father's account. Again to assist me with a
letter of invitation that will make me get a visa to your country for
residence inorder for me to continue our education and to invest the
fund in a viable business venture.

I and the rest of my family have decieded to give you 10% of the
total sum for your kind assistance,while 5% has been marked for any
expenses like phone calls,the world is full of bad people please i am
not saying you are bad person but consider that this is money and how
the money was gotten,it is inheritace and last hope,If this is
acceptable to you,Then reply me as soon as you get this message,so
that we can discuss further on this matter.

Thanks and GOD bless us.
Frank Agogo.

HK March 26th 08 01:11 PM

I Am Rich
 
Tim wrote:
On Mar 10, 9:32 am, BAR wrote:
The National Lottery
OFFICE OF DR.MARK LAMBERT
EURO MILLIONS PROMO
PRIZE CLAIM/ VERIFICATION DEPARTMENT
Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1, Ireland
(Customer-Services)

Dear E-mail Bearer,

You have won the sum of 1,350,000 Euro. in the Irish Online Sweepstake Promo
held on 10th March 2008. Your Ref Number: Ref: IR/90020X2/07), To further
the claims of your prize, you are advise to contact your claims department
with the below informations.

Full Names:
Address:
Sex:
Age:
Occupation:
Tel / Mobile / Fax #
Nationality:
Country Of Residence:

Contact Person: Dr. Mark Lambert
E-mail:
Mobile Phone: +44 704 572 2823
Office Line: +44-207-179-7777

Congratulations once again.
Yours faithfully,
Sir Robert Riddy
Online Coordinator

Ref Number: Ref: IR/90020X2/07


And in the Name of God, too!
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''

From Frank Agogo
Abidjan,Cote d'Ivoire
West Africa,

Greetings in the name of God.

My name is Frank Agogo from Sierra Leone. My father and I escaped
from our country at the heat of the civil war ,As a result of the
political instability in my country even after the war,My father
established his cocoa and coffee export business in Abidjan,Ivory
Coast.He was in Buake, a northern city to negotiate for the purchase
of a cocoaplantation when he was shot and killed by the rebel troupes
fighting to takeover the government of the country on the 22nd
September, 2002. The death of my father has now made me an orphan and
there by exposing me to danger.

Before the unfortunate death, My late father had in his personal
account with a bank here the sum of $2.5m. As a result of the present
in security of lives and property in this country,
I wish request that you assist me use your account in your country to
transfer the balance of my father's account. Again to assist me with a
letter of invitation that will make me get a visa to your country for
residence inorder for me to continue our education and to invest the
fund in a viable business venture.

I and the rest of my family have decieded to give you 10% of the
total sum for your kind assistance,while 5% has been marked for any
expenses like phone calls,the world is full of bad people please i am
not saying you are bad person but consider that this is money and how
the money was gotten,it is inheritace and last hope,If this is
acceptable to you,Then reply me as soon as you get this message,so
that we can discuss further on this matter.

Thanks and GOD bless us.
Frank Agogo.



So, are you taking us to dinner?

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] March 26th 08 03:23 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:20:28 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:26:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:17:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.

Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.

I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.

Tell me more about the Strat and the Gretsch.


The Strat is a '64 pre-CBS in Sunburst and has the single coil
pickups. It has a rosewood fretboard and according to the serial
number it might be a '63 - as in made in late '63 and sold/or stamped
in '64. It's just a plain old Strat - never been modified, tweaked,
torqued or otherwise diddled with.

The Gretsch is a '66. It has been retrofitted with a new fretboard so
it's not all original. It also has been played by Chet Atkins and has
his autograph - a real autograph. :)


Fender serial numbers are not always very accurate for establishing
the date of manufacture. The reason is that they basically had a big
box of pre-made and stamped neckplates next to the assembly line, and
just grabbed them as needed. If one fell on the floor and was found a
year or 5 later, it was simply thrown back into the box. If you want
the real date, remove the neck, and it will be either stamped there in
ink, or on older guitars, written in pencil. The pickups on older
Fenders also often have penciled dates on them.


Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] March 26th 08 03:24 PM

I Am Rich roo!
 
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:46:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 25, 8:14*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.


Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. *I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.


I still rock (even got on stage awhile back!) so I use my strat alot.
It's my number one guitar (candy apple red, to boot!). For acoustic
I've not got anything too far out, but I've got a decent Takamine:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...tar?sku=516427


I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. *Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.


I like the sound of the Jag, and the Jazzmaster.


Never played a Jazzmaster.


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