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Short Wave Sportfishing March 6th 08 10:07 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.

After safely accomplishing that with no small amount of skill (yeah
right - it was tough, but once I calmed down, things went very well),
I went south to a couple of marinas to look at CC boats.

Still conflicted about the whole large CC vs Cuddy. Looked at the
Canyon 33 again and talked to the dealer - he's not getting a lot of
traffic on the boat - I may win this one yet.

Found a Jupiter 31 Cuddy http://www.jupitermarine.com/31c.aspx that I
liked a lot - white with blue accents - my favorite color scheme.

Still have a couple of weeks before I decide to pull the trigger -
I've renewed my slip, so I have a place to put it. If not, I can keep
the slip and let the marina use it for transients with a kickback to
me.

Great day all around - getting the fever to get back on the water.

Tim March 6th 08 10:16 PM

Oy! What a day...
 


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.



Tom, those litle Robinson's are neat. Are you persuing a private
ticket?

Actually I thought you'd had enough chopper time while "grunting"

Glad you had a great day!

Don White March 7th 08 01:32 AM

Oy! What a day...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:55:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:58:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
ere.com...
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

Whew..... helioflopters..... maintenance hogs....

And never intended to fly.


But they do.


Most of the time.


So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)



Plan on making any international flights?



Don White March 7th 08 01:36 AM

Oy! What a day...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
snip..
Still conflicted about the whole large CC vs Cuddy. Looked at the
Canyon 33 again and talked to the dealer - he's not getting a lot of
traffic on the boat - I may win this one yet.

Found a Jupiter 31 Cuddy http://www.jupitermarine.com/31c.aspx that I
liked a lot - white with blue accents - my favorite color scheme.

Still have a couple of weeks before I decide to pull the trigger -
I've renewed my slip, so I have a place to put it. If not, I can keep
the slip and let the marina use it for transients with a kickback to
me.

Great day all around - getting the fever to get back on the water.



If i was paying all that money for a boat that size and slip fees, I'd
want to be able to overnight on it once in a while.



Jupiter makes some great boats, but these days, with regular grade
gasoline climbing to $4.00 US at gasoline stations and higher at marinas,
and with that 31-footer required at least two 250 hp engines, maybe
more...whew! Probably burns 30 gph or more at a reasonable cruise
speed...that's going to be $120-$150 an hour, just to move along at a nice
clip.

Not that I wouldn't want to own one...but I'd want to own a string of
gasoline stations, too!


Tom just sold off his half of Connecticut, he's probably not too worried
about gas. ;-)



Eisboch March 7th 08 01:38 AM

Oy! What a day...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:55:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:58:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
ere.com...
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

Whew..... helioflopters..... maintenance hogs....

And never intended to fly.


But they do.


Most of the time.


So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)



Never said that. Come on over.
I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)

Eisboch



Eisboch March 7th 08 01:56 AM

Oy! What a day...
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:58:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
re.com...
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

Whew..... helioflopters..... maintenance hogs....

And never intended to fly.


But they do.

Spooky.


A genius before his time.

http://orionrobots.co.uk/tiki-index....cis+Helicopter


True, but it wasn't until Igor Sikorski figured out gyroscopic precession
controls that the helicopter became flyable with any safety or stability.

Eisboch



BAR March 7th 08 02:27 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.

Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.

Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.


I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.

I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.

Helicopters have a whole different feeling.


Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?


Tim March 7th 08 03:01 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Mar 6, 8:27*pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..


Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."


WHOO HOO!!! *Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.


Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.


I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. *I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.


I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.


Helicopters have a whole different feeling.


Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134

HK March 7th 08 03:03 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:27 pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."
WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.
Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.
I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.
Helicopters have a whole different feeling.

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134




You weren't that guy who inspired the helicopter scene from "Full Metal
Jacket," were you?

Tim March 7th 08 03:23 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Mar 6, 9:03*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:27 pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."
WHOO HOO!!! *Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.
Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. *I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.
I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.
Helicopters have a whole different feeling.
Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134


You weren't that guy who inspired the helicopter scene from "Full Metal
Jacket," were you?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


LOL! , er... not hardly.

however I could have been one of the guys hanging on the skid at the
USO show in Apokolypse Now...


BAR March 7th 08 03:28 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:27 pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."
WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.
Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.
I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.
Helicopters have a whole different feeling.

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134


Makes it easier to get out when you crash, not if you crash.

Back in the early 80's there were a bunch of guys in my reserve unit
wanting to go regular if they could become door gunners on Heuys. They
were in technical MOSes and the USMC in its infinite wisdom wasn't going
to put highly trained technical jarheads in the door of a Huey.

HK March 7th 08 03:33 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:03 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:27 pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."
WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.
Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.
I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.
Helicopters have a whole different feeling.
Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134

You weren't that guy who inspired the helicopter scene from "Full Metal
Jacket," were you?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


LOL! , er... not hardly.

however I could have been one of the guys hanging on the skid at the
USO show in Apokolypse Now...



Well, we do have something in common: we recognize what is important and
the importance of trying to hang onto it.


Tim March 7th 08 03:49 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Mar 6, 9:28*pm, BAR wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:27 pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."
WHOO HOO!!! *Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.
Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. *I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.
I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.
Helicopters have a whole different feeling.
Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134


Makes it easier to get out when you crash, not if you crash.

Back in the early 80's there were a bunch of guys in my reserve unit
wanting to go regular if they could become door gunners on Heuys. They
were in technical MOSes and the USMC in its infinite wisdom wasn't going
to put highly trained technical jarheads in the door of a Huey.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


well, their infinte wisdom didn't draw that conclusion 15-20 years
earlier..

Tim March 7th 08 03:50 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Mar 6, 9:33*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:03 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:27 pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:rrp0t3l9eg1ad091565aufcuj0k636dljm@4ax. com...
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."
WHOO HOO!!! *Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.
Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. *I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.
I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.
Helicopters have a whole different feeling.
Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134
You weren't that guy who inspired the helicopter scene from "Full Metal
Jacket," were you?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


LOL! , er... not hardly.


however I could have been one of the guys hanging on the skid at the
USO show in Apokolypse Now...


Well, we do have something in common: we recognize what is important and
the importance of trying to hang onto it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


HA! Yeah, and what those guys were wanting to hang onto they couldnt'
get anyhow.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 7th 08 11:33 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:38:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:55:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:58:47 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
here.com...
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

Whew..... helioflopters..... maintenance hogs....

And never intended to fly.

But they do.

Most of the time.


So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)


Never said that. Come on over.


Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)


Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 7th 08 11:33 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Most of the time.
So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)

Never said that. Come on over.


Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)


Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.


Do you plan on using your new skills for anything besides a hobby?




John H.[_3_] March 7th 08 12:38 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:27:06 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.

Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.


I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.

I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.

Helicopters have a whole different feeling.


Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?


Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] March 7th 08 12:39 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:01:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Mar 6, 8:27*pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..


Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."


WHOO HOO!!! *Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.


Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.


I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. *I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.


I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.


Helicopters have a whole different feeling.


Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134


Shooting through doors would be a real bitch. As would dropping mortar
rounds.
--
John H

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 7th 08 12:40 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Most of the time.
So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)
Never said that. Come on over.
Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)
Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.

Do you plan on using your new skills for anything besides a hobby?


You can get to the fishing spots quickly with a helicopter. That would have
to be some fast 'drift fishing', although I guess you could put floats on
the damn thing.


LOL, yeah that's the ticket.

Actually, I know SWS was/is very active in paramedic work and was
wondering if he was going to use it with his volunteer work.


John H.[_3_] March 7th 08 12:41 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Most of the time.
So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)
Never said that. Come on over.


Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)


Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.


Do you plan on using your new skills for anything besides a hobby?


You can get to the fishing spots quickly with a helicopter. That would have
to be some fast 'drift fishing', although I guess you could put floats on
the damn thing.
--
John H

Short Wave Sportfishing March 7th 08 01:06 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Most of the time.
So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)
Never said that. Come on over.


Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)


Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.


Do you plan on using your new skills for anything besides a hobby?


Not really. It's just something that I've always wanted to do since I
was a grunt.

I used to spend time on the flight line and got to know a few of the
pilots who used to let me ride left seat/right seat occasionally on
test flights. Later on when I was really involved with the VFD, I
volunteered with Life Flight as a Paramedic four shifts a month after
I retired.

Helicopters just fascinate me for some reason - can't explain it.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 7th 08 01:09 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:41:06 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Most of the time.
So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)
Never said that. Come on over.

Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)

Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.


Do you plan on using your new skills for anything besides a hobby?

You can get to the fishing spots quickly with a helicopter. That would have
to be some fast 'drift fishing', although I guess you could put floats on
the damn thing.


Great minds think alike.

I thought about that actually. Back in the day, I took a float plane
trip to a remote lake in Canada's NW Territory and we spent the day
fishing from the planes floats. Could do it from a 'copter just as
easily.

Hey, it would be very cool to spot a school from the air, land in
front of it and fish away. :)

John H.[_3_] March 7th 08 02:38 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:09:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:41:06 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Most of the time.
So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :)
Never said that. Come on over.

Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)

Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.

Do you plan on using your new skills for anything besides a hobby?

You can get to the fishing spots quickly with a helicopter. That would have
to be some fast 'drift fishing', although I guess you could put floats on
the damn thing.


Great minds think alike.

I thought about that actually. Back in the day, I took a float plane
trip to a remote lake in Canada's NW Territory and we spent the day
fishing from the planes floats. Could do it from a 'copter just as
easily.

Hey, it would be very cool to spot a school from the air, land in
front of it and fish away. :)


If it's tuna you're going after, let me know!

I spent about five months in God's country doing observer work from a
helicopter as an S-2 guy. I'll ride out to tuna country any time. I would
like, before I die, to catch a tuna and eat that bugger.
--
John H

[email protected] March 7th 08 08:13 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Mar 6, 10:50*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:33*pm, HK wrote:





Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:03 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:27 pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:40:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:rrp0t3l9eg1ad091565aufcuj0k636dljm@4ax. com...
Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."
WHOO HOO!!! *Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.
Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. *I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.
I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.
Helicopters have a whole different feeling.
Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134
You weren't that guy who inspired the helicopter scene from "Full Metal
Jacket," were you?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


LOL! , er... not hardly.


however I could have been one of the guys hanging on the skid at the
USO show in Apokolypse Now...


Well, we do have something in common: we recognize what is important and
the importance of trying to hang onto it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


HA! Yeah, and what those guys were wanting to hang onto they couldnt'
get anyhow.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In a few minutes, Harry will be compelled to lie once again. probably
telling us about all of the helicopters he's owned, how his father
single handed one around the world, how he's got a landing pad on his
lobster boat for the Bush's etc.

HK March 7th 08 08:17 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:50 pm, Tim wrote:



In a few minutes, Harry will be compelled to lie once again.




Loogy-Bassy has a three digit IQ and is a graduate of an engineering school.

[email protected] March 7th 08 08:43 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Mar 7, 3:17*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:50 pm, Tim wrote:


In a few minutes, Harry will be compelled to lie once again.


Loogy-Bassy has a three digit IQ and is a graduate of an engineering school.


The only truthful statement you've ever made here.
Tell us again how your father crossed the Atlantic in a runabout and
got a fireboat welcome in NY for his efforts. Do you hve any idea why
there wouldn't be any recollection of such a feat?

[email protected] March 7th 08 08:47 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Mar 7, 3:17*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:50 pm, Tim wrote:


In a few minutes, Harry will be compelled to lie once again.


Loogy-Bassy has a three digit IQ and is a graduate of an engineering school.


Tell us all again how you can only use chords if you strum as opposed
to picking......
Then tell us again how you are a guitar player......

Tim March 7th 08 11:16 PM

Oy! What a day...
 


John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?


Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H


They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????

John H.[_3_] March 7th 08 11:28 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:



John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?


Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H


They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????


Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm
--
***** Hope your day is a little better than decent! *****

John H

Short Wave Sportfising March 8th 08 12:25 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:28:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:



John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?

Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H


They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????


Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm


Our guys...


DK March 8th 08 01:58 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:50 pm, Tim wrote:



In a few minutes, Harry will be compelled to lie once again.




Loogy-Bassy has a three digit IQ and is a graduate of an engineering
school.


Let me guess. Harry has a four-digit IQ? Amazing!

John H.[_3_] March 8th 08 02:49 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:25:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:28:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:



John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?

Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H

They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????


Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm


Our guys...


Yeah, the Little Bears were the ones that flew us around all the time. They
took me up for morning dawn patrol for six months. They also had a nice
club on Cu Chi to which the Engineers (always in demand) were always
welcome.

I sure don't feel badly calling them 'our guys'.

Something wrong with that, in your humble opinion?
--
***** Hope your day is a little better than decent! *****

John H

-rick- March 8th 08 06:16 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Actually, I know SWS was/is very active in paramedic work and was
wondering if he was going to use it with his volunteer work.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkH6uPBPymY

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...h&search_type=

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 8th 08 11:21 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
-rick- wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Actually, I know SWS was/is very active in paramedic work and was
wondering if he was going to use it with his volunteer work.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkH6uPBPymY

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...h&search_type=


Rick,
Were all those of SWS flying? If so, he does seem to be a little bit
uneasy at the helm.

Short Wave Sportfising March 8th 08 11:37 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:49:25 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:25:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:28:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:



John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?

Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H

They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????

Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm


Our guys...


Yeah, the Little Bears were the ones that flew us around all the time. They
took me up for morning dawn patrol for six months. They also had a nice
club on Cu Chi to which the Engineers (always in demand) were always
welcome.

I sure don't feel badly calling them 'our guys'.

Something wrong with that, in your humble opinion?


No, no - not at all. For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
post got cut off.

Allow me...

Our guys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM-364

John H.[_3_] March 8th 08 01:17 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:49:25 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:25:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:28:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:



John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?

Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H

They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????

Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm

Our guys...


Yeah, the Little Bears were the ones that flew us around all the time. They
took me up for morning dawn patrol for six months. They also had a nice
club on Cu Chi to which the Engineers (always in demand) were always
welcome.

I sure don't feel badly calling them 'our guys'.

Something wrong with that, in your humble opinion?


No, no - not at all. For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
post got cut off.

Allow me...

Our guys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM-364


Thanks for the explanation. It did seem like a cheap little shot! :)

You guys used the 'Sea Knights', we used the 'Chinooks'. No matter, I
hated the noisy son's of bitches. I never got friendly with any of those
pilots, but never flew in the damn things much. I don't know what unit
supported us with the Chinooks.
--
***** Hope your day is a little better than decent! *****

John H

Short Wave Sportfising March 8th 08 01:33 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:17:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:49:25 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:25:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:28:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:



John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?

Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H

They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????

Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm

Our guys...

Yeah, the Little Bears were the ones that flew us around all the time. They
took me up for morning dawn patrol for six months. They also had a nice
club on Cu Chi to which the Engineers (always in demand) were always
welcome.

I sure don't feel badly calling them 'our guys'.

Something wrong with that, in your humble opinion?


No, no - not at all. For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
post got cut off.

Allow me...

Our guys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM-364


Thanks for the explanation. It did seem like a cheap little shot! :)

You guys used the 'Sea Knights', we used the 'Chinooks'. No matter, I
hated the noisy son's of bitches. I never got friendly with any of those
pilots, but never flew in the damn things much. I don't know what unit
supported us with the Chinooks.


They had Chinooks for a little while, but the Sea Knights came very
quickly. I remember the first ride I had in a Chinook - nothing like
looking straight down through the floor boards at 5,000 feet. :)

There was also a light scout group, can't remember their designation
at the moment, which had Huey's, Cobras and those little scout
'copters that I occasionally used to fly with.

John H.[_3_] March 8th 08 04:09 PM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:33:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:17:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:49:25 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:25:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:28:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:16:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:



John H. wrote:

Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?

Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H

They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????

Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm

Our guys...

Yeah, the Little Bears were the ones that flew us around all the time. They
took me up for morning dawn patrol for six months. They also had a nice
club on Cu Chi to which the Engineers (always in demand) were always
welcome.

I sure don't feel badly calling them 'our guys'.

Something wrong with that, in your humble opinion?

No, no - not at all. For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
post got cut off.

Allow me...

Our guys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM-364


Thanks for the explanation. It did seem like a cheap little shot! :)

You guys used the 'Sea Knights', we used the 'Chinooks'. No matter, I
hated the noisy son's of bitches. I never got friendly with any of those
pilots, but never flew in the damn things much. I don't know what unit
supported us with the Chinooks.


They had Chinooks for a little while, but the Sea Knights came very
quickly. I remember the first ride I had in a Chinook - nothing like
looking straight down through the floor boards at 5,000 feet. :)

There was also a light scout group, can't remember their designation
at the moment, which had Huey's, Cobras and those little scout
'copters that I occasionally used to fly with.


The Kiowa was coming in during the last couple months I was there, but I
never had the opportunity to go up in one. Cute little buggers though.

http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/oh58ao.jpg
--
***** Hope your day is a little better than decent! *****

John H

Maynard G. Krebbs March 9th 08 01:52 AM

Oy! What a day...
 
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
wrote:

snippity-snip

No, no - not at all. For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
post got cut off.

Allow me...

Our guys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM-364


We never were sure who was going to be flying us on any given day.
What I heard is they had to volenteer to fly Recon
insertion/extraction. Some of the pilots and crews were great and
some of them were, well...somewhat lacking.

Mark E. Williams
http://members.cox.net/reconradio/index.html


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