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Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!

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On Mar 6, 9:12*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!

Any graduate engineer in the construction field would know where to find
that information.

Hell, I know where to find that information.

Oh, really? You do know that the values change by manufacturer, don't
you?
You do know that different manufacturers use different grades of steel
IN their chain, don't you?
You do know that different manufacturers various chain parts, like
pins, rollers, standard links, make-up links, etc. vary a lot, don't
you?
In other words, you don't have a damned clue what you are talking
about, go back to watching your Drew Carey reruns.

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wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:12 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!
Any graduate engineer in the construction field would know where to find
that information.

Hell, I know where to find that information.

Oh, really? You do know that the values change by manufacturer, don't
you?
You do know that different manufacturers use different grades of steel
IN their chain, don't you?
You do know that different manufacturers various chain parts, like
pins, rollers, standard links, make-up links, etc. vary a lot, don't
you?
In other words, you don't have a damned clue what you are talking
about, go back to watching your Drew Carey reruns.


I'm smart enough to call the tech support folks at a chain manufacturer
or distributor and ask, dummy.

Your question was, "Do you have any idea where to find this information?"

My answer was, "I know where to find that information.

D'oh.

Do you suppose these folks might have some answers?


http://www.diamondchain.com/


Idiot.

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On Mar 6, 9:12 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!

Any graduate engineer in the construction field would know where to find
that information.

Hell, I know where to find that information.

Oh, really? You do know that the values change by manufacturer, don't
you?
You do know that different manufacturers use different grades of steel
IN their chain, don't you?
You do know that different manufacturers various chain parts, like
pins, rollers, standard links, make-up links, etc. vary a lot, don't
you?
In other words, you don't have a damned clue what you are talking
about, go back to watching your Drew Carey reruns.

As you point out different manufacturers probably have different specs
depending on the their particular process. You didn't give any particulars
except for the size.

Here's one example:

http://www.azusaeng.com/chain/rollerchain/sngle.html

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On Mar 6, 9:21*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:12 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!
Any graduate engineer in the construction field would know where to find
that information.

Hell, I know where to find that information.

Oh, really? You do know that the values change by manufacturer, don't
you?
You do know that different manufacturers use different grades of steel
IN their chain, don't you?
You do know that different manufacturers various chain parts, like
pins, rollers, standard links, make-up links, etc. vary a lot, don't
you?
In other words, you don't have a damned clue what you are talking
about, go back to watching your Drew Carey reruns.

I'm smart enough to call the tech support folks at a chain manufacturer
or distributor and ask, dummy.

Your question was, "Do you have any idea where to find this information?"

My answer was, "I know where to find that information.

D'oh.

Do you suppose these folks might have some answers?

http://www.diamondchain.com/

Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

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If I was using Diamond chain, perhaps. Then again, please show me on
that website where they give the ULTIMATE tensile load of #25
chain......

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On Mar 6, 9:22*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Mar 6, 9:12 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!

Any graduate engineer in the construction field would know where to find
that information.

Hell, I know where to find that information.

Oh, really? You do know that the values change by manufacturer, don't
you?
You do know that different manufacturers use different grades of steel
IN their chain, don't you?
You do know that different manufacturers various chain parts, like
pins, rollers, standard links, make-up links, etc. vary a lot, don't
you?
In other words, you don't have a damned clue what you are talking
about, go back to watching your Drew Carey reruns.

As you point out different manufacturers probably have different specs
depending on the their particular process. *You didn't give any particulars
except for the size.

Here's one example:

http://www.azusaeng.com/chain/rollerchain/sngle.html

Thanks. There is a lot more to it than Harry understands. Hell, I can
take the components of a chain and calculate the ultimate tensile
strength but there are sprockets involved with X number of teeth, with
Y number of teeth in full contact, and on and on. Gene or you or
someone will know of a site that will have this information. Harry is
just being his refined, cultured self. He's never even seen a set of
calcs for chain/sprocket combos.

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HK wrote:
wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!


Any graduate engineer in the construction field would know where to find
that information.

Hell, I know where to find that information.


Harry,
Did you trash this post, that had the ability to morph into a topic
about the strength of chain rode?

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I would think that even light (50-100cc) motorcycle chain would work
very well. Even packed full of mud and grit, under hard accelerated
torque, they put up with a lot more than 100 lb loads.

wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!

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On Mar 6, 12:34*pm, Tim wrote:
I would think that even light (50-100cc) motorcycle chain would work
very well. Even packed full of mud and grit, under hard accelerated
torque, they put up with a lot more than 100 lb loads.



wrote:
Hey, Gene, I'm making a lift, sort of a dumbwaiter if you will. My
bar, screen room, patio, deck and pool are in the back of my house,
which is a daylight basement. Above is a deck coming off of my kitchen
one floor up. So, I'm thinking of using #25 carbon steel roller chain.
I'm guessing that the load would never be over 100 pounds on this
thing, unless my kids get to using it as an amusement ride! So, I got
to thinking, I wonder what the ultimate strength of #25 roller chain
is in tension? Do you have any idea where to find this information or
do you happen to have it handy? Thanks!- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, I'm suspecting #25 to have an ultimate tensile strength of
around 700 pounds or so, so if the sprockets engage at least two teeth
fully, it should hold my two kids on it!!