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Wayne.B March 3rd 08 11:28 PM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbing and general play
 
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:

What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?


It will get scratched up on the bottom but nothing structural unless
you really bang it hard. If it were me I'd be inclined toward a 17 or
18 ft aluminum with a 40 horse 2 stroke on it. For rough water
conditions I'd go with a RIB however. They are amazingly sea worthy
and will continue running when half full of water or partially
deflated.


Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 11:28 PM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbing and general play
 
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:23:14 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Mar 3, 6:12*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?


They take a licking and keep on ticking.


Can I assume that the wooden flat bottom skiff I suggest, is not
something you would consider? Wood;) it be better if it had a modified
vee or are there other reasons... I think the Brockway type skiff
(dry weight 250) with the tiller 25 would suit his needs and might
even be able to fit close to his budget too.


I dunno - rock beach, wood boat.

Hey, I suppose, but you'd have to really build up the bottom and
protect it with something.

Let's take your Brockway and run it up on Gould Island in Narragansett
Bay and see what happens. :)

Hmmm - on second thought...maybe not. :)

[email protected] March 3rd 08 11:33 PM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbingand general play
 
On Mar 3, 6:28*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:23:14 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Mar 3, 6:12*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?


They take a licking and keep on ticking.


Can I assume that the wooden flat bottom skiff I suggest, is not
something you would consider? Wood;) it be better if it had a modified
vee or are there other reasons... * *I think the Brockway type skiff
(dry weight 250) with the tiller 25 would suit his needs and might
even be able to fit close to his budget too.


I dunno - rock beach, wood boat.

Hey, I suppose, but you'd have to really build up the bottom and
protect it with something.

Let's take your Brockway and run it up on Gould Island in Narragansett
Bay and see what happens. *:)

Hmmm - on second thought...maybe not. *:)


Good point... Thanks...

Short Wave Sportfishing March 4th 08 12:24 AM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbing and general play
 
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:33:14 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Mar 3, 6:28*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:23:14 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Mar 3, 6:12*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?


They take a licking and keep on ticking.


Can I assume that the wooden flat bottom skiff I suggest, is not
something you would consider? Wood;) it be better if it had a modified
vee or are there other reasons... * *I think the Brockway type skiff
(dry weight 250) with the tiller 25 would suit his needs and might
even be able to fit close to his budget too.


I dunno - rock beach, wood boat.

Hey, I suppose, but you'd have to really build up the bottom and
protect it with something.

Let's take your Brockway and run it up on Gould Island in Narragansett
Bay and see what happens. *:)

Hmmm - on second thought...maybe not. *:)


Good point... Thanks...


Just mulling it over, but I wonder if a skeg with some kind of
replacable shoe would work.

Yes/no?

[email protected] March 4th 08 01:21 AM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbingand general play
 
On Mar 3, 3:28 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?


It will get scratched up on the bottom but nothing structural unless
you really bang it hard. If it were me I'd be inclined toward a 17 or
18 ft aluminum with a 40 horse 2 stroke on it. For rough water
conditions I'd go with a RIB however. They are amazingly sea worthy
and will continue running when half full of water or partially
deflated.


But aren't the RIBs bottom conventional fiberglass? And wouldn't that
get destroyed pretty quickly if we beached the boat a lot?

If not, who makes good RIB boats?

-dm

Don White March 4th 08 01:28 AM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbing and general play
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:23:14 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Mar 3, 6:12 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?

They take a licking and keep on ticking.


Can I assume that the wooden flat bottom skiff I suggest, is not
something you would consider? Wood;) it be better if it had a modified
vee or are there other reasons... I think the Brockway type skiff
(dry weight 250) with the tiller 25 would suit his needs and might
even be able to fit close to his budget too.


I dunno - rock beach, wood boat.

Hey, I suppose, but you'd have to really build up the bottom and
protect it with something.

Let's take your Brockway and run it up on Gould Island in Narragansett
Bay and see what happens. :)

Hmmm - on second thought...maybe not. :)


Don't they affix a copper runner on the wood keel to help it last?



Don White March 4th 08 01:29 AM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbing and general play
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Mar 3, 3:28 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?

It will get scratched up on the bottom but nothing structural unless
you really bang it hard. If it were me I'd be inclined toward a 17 or
18 ft aluminum with a 40 horse 2 stroke on it. For rough water
conditions I'd go with a RIB however. They are amazingly sea worthy
and will continue running when half full of water or partially
deflated.


But aren't the RIBs bottom conventional fiberglass? And wouldn't that
get destroyed pretty quickly if we beached the boat a lot?


Not really. The hulls are usually made from glass/resin reinforced
plastic or ploypropelene. Some hulls use Kevlar and some military
manufacturers use Nomex w/Kevlar.

Tough stuff.

If not, who makes good RIB boats?


Zodiac makes most of them actually.


At our boat show a week & a half ago, I'm sure I saw some RIBs with the hull
part made of aluminum.



[email protected] March 4th 08 01:36 AM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbingand general play
 
On Mar 3, 7:24*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:33:14 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Mar 3, 6:28*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:23:14 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Mar 3, 6:12*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?


They take a licking and keep on ticking.


Can I assume that the wooden flat bottom skiff I suggest, is not
something you would consider? Wood;) it be better if it had a modified
vee or are there other reasons... * *I think the Brockway type skiff
(dry weight 250) with the tiller 25 would suit his needs and might
even be able to fit close to his budget too.


I dunno - rock beach, wood boat.


Hey, I suppose, but you'd have to really build up the bottom and
protect it with something.


Let's take your Brockway and run it up on Gould Island in Narragansett
Bay and see what happens. *:)


Hmmm - on second thought...maybe not. *:)


Good point... Thanks...


Just mulling it over, but I wonder if a skeg with some kind of
replacable shoe would work.

Yes/no?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Sure, add a sheet of 6 oz. fiberglass to the bottom and 4-6 inches up
the side, with the skegs, and you are good to go. The thing I like
about the wooden bottom is even if it gets dinged up, you can fill it
with a little goo, paint over it, and it's as strong as the day it was
made. The Brockways like mine had a 3/4inch plywood bottom, pretty
hard to punch through that but you have to be ready to have some
dings. The skids on mine are bolted on so they can be replaced
easily.. Not as pretty, but yes, skegs and a little glass, and in my
opinion, other than aesthetics, wood is good... I rammed a rock pretty
good the first year and have a big ding up near the stem area, I have
just left it alone, I can see no structural reason to address it, just
looks funny... Wood is tough.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 4th 08 01:51 AM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbing and general play
 
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Mar 3, 3:28 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?


It will get scratched up on the bottom but nothing structural unless
you really bang it hard. If it were me I'd be inclined toward a 17 or
18 ft aluminum with a 40 horse 2 stroke on it. For rough water
conditions I'd go with a RIB however. They are amazingly sea worthy
and will continue running when half full of water or partially
deflated.


But aren't the RIBs bottom conventional fiberglass? And wouldn't that
get destroyed pretty quickly if we beached the boat a lot?


Not really. The hulls are usually made from glass/resin reinforced
plastic or ploypropelene. Some hulls use Kevlar and some military
manufacturers use Nomex w/Kevlar.

Tough stuff.

If not, who makes good RIB boats?


Zodiac makes most of them actually.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 4th 08 02:26 AM

Looking for recommendations on power boat for fishing, crabbing and general play
 
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:29:53 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Mar 3, 3:28 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
What is folks opinion w.r.t RIB inflatables for this use? As I said,
I've got real doubts about the durability of one used on our rocky
beaches, but maybe I am wrong about that?

It will get scratched up on the bottom but nothing structural unless
you really bang it hard. If it were me I'd be inclined toward a 17 or
18 ft aluminum with a 40 horse 2 stroke on it. For rough water
conditions I'd go with a RIB however. They are amazingly sea worthy
and will continue running when half full of water or partially
deflated.

But aren't the RIBs bottom conventional fiberglass? And wouldn't that
get destroyed pretty quickly if we beached the boat a lot?


Not really. The hulls are usually made from glass/resin reinforced
plastic or ploypropelene. Some hulls use Kevlar and some military
manufacturers use Nomex w/Kevlar.

Tough stuff.

If not, who makes good RIB boats?


Zodiac makes most of them actually.


At our boat show a week & a half ago, I'm sure I saw some RIBs with the hull
part made of aluminum.


Forgot about that.

I've seen large RIB pilot boats with aluminum hulls.

Not sure what the CG uses.


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