Anyone remember being able...
 

....to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

Anyone remember being able...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and put
it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with my
15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

I could just do that with my Sandpiper 565 weekend cruiser sailboat. After
I bought the new trailer and the weight went just north of 2300 lbs with a
190 tongue weight, i'd only lif/juggle it the last few inches if I had
trouble lining up.
What a treat dealing with the Yukon with a total combo weight of less than
800 lbs.

Anyone remember being able...
 

Anyone remember being able...
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and put
it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with my
15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

I could just do that with my Sandpiper 565 weekend cruiser sailboat. After
I bought the new trailer and the weight went just north of 2300 lbs with a
190 tongue weight, i'd only lif/juggle it the last few inches if I had
trouble lining up.
What a treat dealing with the Yukon with a total combo weight of less than
800 lbs.




There's always a smart ass around... :}

Anyone remember being able...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:48:55 -0500, HK wrote:

...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

It really just depends on how you load the trailer. You can load it
too far back and a child could lift the tongue but that is going to be
a weaving SOB on the highway. I usually load for about 125-150 on the
tongue with a fairly light pontoon boat and it tracks well on the
interstate. The tongue height is lowered and the deck has a tilt
forward so the deck gives me additional down force at highway speed.


Yeah, well, I was referring to a properly loaded trailer.

If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

My little 13' Whaler is no problem. I recall that the Scout (just under
20') was "doable" but at the risk of popping a hernia.

Eisboch

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mar 3, 9:48*am, HK wrote:
...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? *No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

My 17.5' bass boat loaded with all my gear, and a 135 evinrude still
finds it's way to the ball by hand. Of course, I'm not fat and out of
shape.

Anyone remember being able...
 

HK wrote:
...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

I can remember, but even with an 18' runabout it was still heavy

Anyone remember being able...
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 3, 9:48 am, HK wrote:
...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

My 17.5' bass boat loaded with all my gear, and a 135 evinrude still
finds it's way to the ball by hand. Of course, I'm not fat and out of
shape.

If the doughboy's boat is properly loaded on the trailer, the tongue weight
would probably be around 500lb. Hope the trailer has good brakes and the tow
vehicle can handle the load.

Anyone remember being able...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mar 3, 1:05*pm, "LoogyPicker" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...



If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.

Hello Sam

Anyone remember being able...
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 3, 1:05 pm, "LoogyPicker" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...



If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer
to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.

Hello Sam

Stalker.

Anyone remember being able...
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:48:55 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

No.

At about 500# tongue weight I might get it picked up (when I was
younger I could have, I'm old enough now to be wise enough not to
try), but having accomplished that, I'd never get it to roll in the
gravel.....

No.

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.



Since most of us here are 50 or older, unless you regularly move around that
kind of weight (200 lbs +), It's probably wiser to let a tongue jack do the
work.
Better to save your strength trying to improve this newsgroup by bouncing
the yahoo faction out the back door.

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:48:55 -0500, HK wrote:

...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

You need at least 5% tongue weight (boat + trailer) so for all
practical purposes you are limited to a boat/trailer combo of 3000 lbs
or so, preferably less.

Of course if you are driving at the sedate old lady speeds that you
once claimed, you could tow with 1% tongue weight. Just move your
boat aft on the trailer and drive less than 40 mph.

Anyone remember being able...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:48:55 -0500, HK wrote:

...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

You need at least 5% tongue weight (boat + trailer) so for all
practical purposes you are limited to a boat/trailer combo of 3000 lbs
or so, preferably less.

Of course if you are driving at the sedate old lady speeds that you
once claimed, you could tow with 1% tongue weight. Just move your
boat aft on the trailer and drive less than 40 mph.



Do you have to be a snarky ass with every response you post?

I drive at a safe speed when trailering, 55 to 60 mph when conditions
allow. I see no reason to burn as much fuel as possible and be on the
ragged edge of the ability of my vehicle and trailer brakes when towing.

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:05:13 GMT, "LoogyPicker"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.


That Parker should probably have a tongue weight in the 500lb range. My
Proline, 21'er, with a tandem axle trailer had about 420lbs, which was
about 8% of the total load. The trailer manual will specify what percent of
the total load should be used for tongue weight.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:52:40 -0500, "agent X" wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Mar 3, 9:48 am, HK wrote:
...to lift that tongue of that trailer by hand with the boat on it and
put it on the hitch ball? No, I don't mean youse guys with the small
boats.

I think the last time I was able to do this was in the late 1950s, with
my 15' Wolverine and 25 or 33 hp Big Twin.

My 17.5' bass boat loaded with all my gear, and a 135 evinrude still
finds it's way to the ball by hand. Of course, I'm not fat and out of
shape.

If the doughboy's boat is properly loaded on the trailer, the tongue weight
would probably be around 500lb. Hope the trailer has good brakes and the tow
vehicle can handle the load.

Agreed.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Anyone remember being able...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:05:13 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer
to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.


That Parker should probably have a tongue weight in the 500lb range. My
Proline, 21'er, with a tandem axle trailer had about 420lbs, which was
about 8% of the total load. The trailer manual will specify what percent
of
the total load should be used for tongue weight.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% tongue weight.

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:21:44 GMT, "LoogyPicker"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:05:13 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer
to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.


That Parker should probably have a tongue weight in the 500lb range. My
Proline, 21'er, with a tandem axle trailer had about 420lbs, which was
about 8% of the total load. The trailer manual will specify what percent
of
the total load should be used for tongue weight.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% tongue weight.


I've seen recommendations for 9% to 15%. The important thing is to check
the trailer owner's manual.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Anyone remember being able...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:21:44 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:05:13 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about
600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but
I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight
closer
to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.


That Parker should probably have a tongue weight in the 500lb range. My
Proline, 21'er, with a tandem axle trailer had about 420lbs, which was
about 8% of the total load. The trailer manual will specify what percent
of
the total load should be used for tongue weight.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% tongue weight.


I've seen recommendations for 9% to 15%. The important thing is to check
the trailer owner's manual.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I'm the engineer here, I'll give the recomendations....................


http://www.ae911truth.org/

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mar 3, 5:07*pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:21:44 GMT, "LoogyPicker"
wrote:







"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:05:13 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer
to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.

That Parker should probably have a tongue weight in the 500lb range. My
Proline, 21'er, with a tandem axle trailer had about 420lbs, which was
about 8% of the total load. The trailer manual will specify what percent
of
the total load should be used for tongue weight.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% *tongue weight.

I've seen recommendations for 9% to 15%. The important thing is to check
the trailer owner's manual.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That loogy clone is just here to screw things up, stalk loogie, and
pass along bad info... doubt he really knows much of interest to
boaters. I still think it is the drunk from the basement...

Anyone remember being able...
 

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:44:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Do you have to be a snarky ass with every response you post?

Sorry Harry, didn't mean to offend your delicate sensibilities.

You don't seem to deal very well with your own snot coming back at you
or is it my imagination ?

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:21:44 GMT, "LoogyPicker"
wrote:

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% tongue weight.

That has *not* been my experience, at least not for interstate highway
speeds. After a lot of tuning I ended up with around 7or 8% before I
felt comfortable with my old boat/trailer combo. Proper tire
inflation on both truck and trailer is important also.

Anyone remember being able...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:44:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Do you have to be a snarky ass with every response you post?

Sorry Harry, didn't mean to offend your delicate sensibilities.

You don't seem to deal very well with your own snot coming back at you
or is it my imagination ?


It's your imagination, Mr. Snot.

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:08:29 GMT, "LoogyPicker"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:21:44 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:05:13 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about
600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but
I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight
closer
to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.


That Parker should probably have a tongue weight in the 500lb range. My
Proline, 21'er, with a tandem axle trailer had about 420lbs, which was
about 8% of the total load. The trailer manual will specify what percent
of
the total load should be used for tongue weight.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% tongue weight.


I've seen recommendations for 9% to 15%. The important thing is to check
the trailer owner's manual.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I'm the engineer here, I'll give the recomendations....................


http://www.ae911truth.org/


These guys may not know everything, but their recommendation is a lot
higher than 3% for a tandem trailer.

Best advice, RTFM.

http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm#refrn9

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:09:02 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Mar 3, 5:07*pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:21:44 GMT, "LoogyPicker"
wrote:







"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:05:13 GMT, "LoogyPicker"

wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

If memory serves, the tongue weight on my old 25' Parker was about 600+
pounds. I haven't checked the tongue weight on the new Parker yet, but I
can't lift the tongue by hand.

You're Parker, on a dual axle trailer, should have a tongue weight closer
to
200lbs. You probably couldnt move that though either.

That Parker should probably have a tongue weight in the 500lb range. My
Proline, 21'er, with a tandem axle trailer had about 420lbs, which was
about 8% of the total load. The trailer manual will specify what percent
of
the total load should be used for tongue weight.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% *tongue weight.

I've seen recommendations for 9% to 15%. The important thing is to check
the trailer owner's manual.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That loogy clone is just here to screw things up, stalk loogie, and
pass along bad info... doubt he really knows much of interest to
boaters. I still think it is the drunk from the basement...

Could well be, but I'd hate for someone to have an accident because they
followed bad advice.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Anyone remember being able...
 

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:14:46 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:21:44 GMT, "LoogyPicker"
wrote:

Dual axle boat trailers normally need no more than 3% tongue weight.

That has *not* been my experience, at least not for interstate highway
speeds. After a lot of tuning I ended up with around 7or 8% before I
felt comfortable with my old boat/trailer combo. Proper tire
inflation on both truck and trailer is important also.

My last trailer manual recommended between 6% - 10%. I opted for 8%, which
put me about 420lbs.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."