Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
HK wrote:
There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs,
their components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html



I don't like to troll for stripers very much, but if I get talked into
it, I like to drag a tandem rig. This consists of a deep-diving hard
lure, a Rapala usually, tied to a three way swivel. I tie a soft
plastic bait on a jig hook to the other swivel eye, and the third
swivel eye, of course, is tied to the fishing line.

The deep-diving lure pulls the soft plastic lure down, too, and if
you've put the jig hook into that lure straight and true, it won't
twist as it is dragged.

The tandem setup was shown to me years ago by a really good north
Florida fishermen. I've seen it written up a few times in different
places, so it must be a fairly well known method. It does work, and to
me it is a lot more fun than dragging and then reeling in some
ungainly umbrella rig.


I heard the larger ones can give one hell of a fight. While I have
caught and eaten large mouth, with my limited fishing experience I have
never caught a striper. Do you ever bring them home for a dinner?


Well, in the Bay, they're "one hell of a fighter," because they tend to
be the largest fish most people encounter in the Bay, and their weight
alone makes them "tuggers." But I think they fight better when they are
in the ocean, not the Bay. I'm not impressed with their "fighting fish"
reputation. There are lots of predatory ocean fish that pound for pound
are much better fighters, even substantially smaller ocean fish. A
stinky sal****er catfish, for example, is a hell of a fighter.

Interestingly, many of the Bay fishermen I see targeting stripers do so
with tackle heavy enough to go shark fishing in the ocean. It's overkill
by a huge factor.

Neither my wife nor I like the taste of stripers that much, so if I
catch one, I usually release it. I have a neighbor who likes them,
though, so if he goes with me or if I know he is around, I'll keep a
fish for him. If we do cook one, I like to poach them. They're kind of
heavy tasting fried, at least to me.

While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

HK wrote:
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While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.

About 15 yrs ago, I attended a convention at the "del" and everyone
insisted I try the Abalone. It is a shellfish, where I think they
sliced it thin, pounded it like veal, lighted breaded it and then pan
fried it. It was the most expensive item on the menu, and was a must
have for those of us form the east coast. If they sell it here, I have
never seen it in a restaurant or fish market. I wasn't impressed, it
was so delicate, it almost had no flavor. I would prefer scallops.

Did you notice that the Navy Seals train on the beach right outside the
"del"? They are running the beach every morning at about 5 am.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

On Feb 29, 7:51*am, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





HK wrote:
HK wrote:
There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs,
their components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html

I don't like to troll for stripers very much, but if I get talked into
it, I like to drag a tandem rig. This consists of a deep-diving hard
lure, a Rapala usually, tied to a three way swivel. I tie a soft
plastic *bait on a jig hook to the other swivel eye, and the third
swivel eye, of course, is tied to the fishing line.

The deep-diving lure pulls the soft plastic lure down, too, and if
you've put the jig hook into that lure straight and true, it won't
twist as it is dragged.

The tandem setup was shown to me years ago by a really good north
Florida fishermen. I've seen it written up a few times in different
places, so it must be a fairly well known method. It does work, and to
me it is a lot more fun than dragging and then reeling in some
ungainly umbrella rig.

I heard the larger ones can give one hell of a fight. *While I have
caught and eaten large mouth, with my limited fishing experience I have
never caught a striper. *Do you ever bring them home for a dinner?

Well, in the Bay, they're "one hell of a fighter," because they tend to
be the largest fish most people encounter in the Bay, and their weight
alone makes them "tuggers." But I think they fight better when they are
in the ocean, not the Bay. I'm not impressed with their "fighting fish"
reputation. There are lots of predatory ocean fish that pound for pound
are much better fighters, even substantially smaller ocean fish. A
stinky sal****er catfish, for example, is a hell of a fighter.

Interestingly, many of the Bay fishermen I see targeting stripers do so
with tackle heavy enough to go shark fishing in the ocean. It's overkill
by a huge factor.

Neither my wife nor I like the taste of stripers that much, so if I
catch one, I usually release it. I have a neighbor who likes them,
though, so if he goes with me or if I know he is around, I'll keep a
fish for him. If we do cook one, I like to poach them. They're kind of
heavy tasting fried, at least to me.

While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.- Hide quoted text -

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That's odd. Almost every striper fishing expert will tell you that
pound for pound, stripers are a hell of a fight. And they are in my
book, too. I've fished for about everything the east coast, and a lot
of what the west coast has to offer. But of course Harry has much more
knowledge about stripers than the experts do.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
.

While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.

About 15 yrs ago, I attended a convention at the "del" and everyone
insisted I try the Abalone. It is a shellfish, where I think they
sliced it thin, pounded it like veal, lighted breaded it and then pan
fried it. It was the most expensive item on the menu, and was a must
have for those of us form the east coast. If they sell it here, I have
never seen it in a restaurant or fish market. I wasn't impressed, it
was so delicate, it almost had no flavor. I would prefer scallops.

Did you notice that the Navy Seals train on the beach right outside the
"del"? They are running the beach every morning at about 5 am.





No military types were training on the beach in front of or on either
side of the Del when I was outside, and I sure as hell was not outside
wandering about in the 5 AM darkness. The only real military presence I
noticed consisted of naval aviation flyovers and boys playing with their
helicopters.

I did see some naval guys in dress uniforms a couple of evenings on the
premises, officers and ratings.

In San Diego harbor, the coasties were busy looking like they were
protecting the homeland.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
.

While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.

About 15 yrs ago, I attended a convention at the "del" and everyone
insisted I try the Abalone. It is a shellfish, where I think they
sliced it thin, pounded it like veal, lighted breaded it and then pan
fried it. It was the most expensive item on the menu, and was a must
have for those of us form the east coast. If they sell it here, I
have never seen it in a restaurant or fish market. I wasn't
impressed, it was so delicate, it almost had no flavor. I would
prefer scallops.

Did you notice that the Navy Seals train on the beach right outside
the "del"? They are running the beach every morning at about 5 am.





No military types were training on the beach in front of or on either
side of the Del when I was outside, and I sure as hell was not outside
wandering about in the 5 AM darkness. The only real military presence I
noticed consisted of naval aviation flyovers and boys playing with their
helicopters.

When I said training, I meant they would swim and run up and down the
beach. Their training base is just a little south of the "del". A DI
was pushing them the whole time. I enjoy the early morning and loved
drinking a cup of coffee and walking on the beach. It was a trip to see
a group of 20 Navy Seals coming out of the water and running down the
beach. 30 minutes later, they were running and/or swimming back to the
training base.



I did see some naval guys in dress uniforms a couple of evenings on the
premises, officers and ratings.

In San Diego harbor, the coasties were busy looking like they were
protecting the homeland.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
.

While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.

About 15 yrs ago, I attended a convention at the "del" and everyone
insisted I try the Abalone. It is a shellfish, where I think they
sliced it thin, pounded it like veal, lighted breaded it and then pan
fried it. It was the most expensive item on the menu, and was a must
have for those of us form the east coast. If they sell it here, I
have never seen it in a restaurant or fish market. I wasn't
impressed, it was so delicate, it almost had no flavor. I would
prefer scallops.

Did you notice that the Navy Seals train on the beach right outside
the "del"? They are running the beach every morning at about 5 am.





No military types were training on the beach in front of or on either
side of the Del when I was outside, and I sure as hell was not outside
wandering about in the 5 AM darkness. The only real military presence
I noticed consisted of naval aviation flyovers and boys playing with
their helicopters.

When I said training, I meant they would swim and run up and down the
beach. Their training base is just a little south of the "del". A DI
was pushing them the whole time. I enjoy the early morning and loved
drinking a cup of coffee and walking on the beach. It was a trip to see
a group of 20 Navy Seals coming out of the water and running down the
beach. 30 minutes later, they were running and/or swimming back to the
training base.



I did see some naval guys in dress uniforms a couple of evenings on
the premises, officers and ratings.

In San Diego harbor, the coasties were busy looking like they were
protecting the homeland.


There was no one swimming. The surf was huge, crashing, and dangerous.
The few times I saw anyone wander more than knee deep in the water, the
lifeguards chased them out.

This was the calmest I saw:

http://tinyurl.com/2xclgk

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
.

While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.

About 15 yrs ago, I attended a convention at the "del" and everyone
insisted I try the Abalone. It is a shellfish, where I think they
sliced it thin, pounded it like veal, lighted breaded it and then
pan fried it. It was the most expensive item on the menu, and was a
must have for those of us form the east coast. If they sell it
here, I have never seen it in a restaurant or fish market. I
wasn't impressed, it was so delicate, it almost had no flavor. I
would prefer scallops.

Did you notice that the Navy Seals train on the beach right outside
the "del"? They are running the beach every morning at about 5 am.





No military types were training on the beach in front of or on either
side of the Del when I was outside, and I sure as hell was not
outside wandering about in the 5 AM darkness. The only real military
presence I noticed consisted of naval aviation flyovers and boys
playing with their helicopters.

When I said training, I meant they would swim and run up and down the
beach. Their training base is just a little south of the "del". A DI
was pushing them the whole time. I enjoy the early morning and loved
drinking a cup of coffee and walking on the beach. It was a trip to
see a group of 20 Navy Seals coming out of the water and running down
the beach. 30 minutes later, they were running and/or swimming back
to the training base.



I did see some naval guys in dress uniforms a couple of evenings on
the premises, officers and ratings.

In San Diego harbor, the coasties were busy looking like they were
protecting the homeland.


There was no one swimming. The surf was huge, crashing, and dangerous.
The few times I saw anyone wander more than knee deep in the water, the
lifeguards chased them out.

This was the calmest I saw:

http://tinyurl.com/2xclgk

Looks like normal surf for the San Diego area.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
.

While out west, we ate two dinners at a nice restaurant where the
speciality was "monkfish." I'd never had West Coast monkfish and I
thought it was delicious. Very light taste.

I don't much like "heavy" or oily tasting fish, though I do like
kingfish mackeral steaks broiled with lemon and some sauce.

About 15 yrs ago, I attended a convention at the "del" and everyone
insisted I try the Abalone. It is a shellfish, where I think they
sliced it thin, pounded it like veal, lighted breaded it and then
pan fried it. It was the most expensive item on the menu, and was
a must have for those of us form the east coast. If they sell it
here, I have never seen it in a restaurant or fish market. I
wasn't impressed, it was so delicate, it almost had no flavor. I
would prefer scallops.

Did you notice that the Navy Seals train on the beach right outside
the "del"? They are running the beach every morning at about 5 am.





No military types were training on the beach in front of or on
either side of the Del when I was outside, and I sure as hell was
not outside wandering about in the 5 AM darkness. The only real
military presence I noticed consisted of naval aviation flyovers and
boys playing with their helicopters.

When I said training, I meant they would swim and run up and down the
beach. Their training base is just a little south of the "del". A
DI was pushing them the whole time. I enjoy the early morning and
loved drinking a cup of coffee and walking on the beach. It was a
trip to see a group of 20 Navy Seals coming out of the water and
running down the beach. 30 minutes later, they were running and/or
swimming back to the training base.



I did see some naval guys in dress uniforms a couple of evenings on
the premises, officers and ratings.

In San Diego harbor, the coasties were busy looking like they were
protecting the homeland.


There was no one swimming. The surf was huge, crashing, and dangerous.
The few times I saw anyone wander more than knee deep in the water,
the lifeguards chased them out.

This was the calmest I saw:

http://tinyurl.com/2xclgk

Looks like normal surf for the San Diego area.


I said it was the calmest I saw. For two days, the surf not far off the
beach was 12 feet high, according to the lifeguard with whom I spoke.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:21:32 -0500, HK wrote:

No military types were training on the beach in front of or on either
side of the Del when I was outside

They are there. If you get too close to their training site in a boat
someone will quickly appear to escort you away. Don't ask me how I
know that.

Umbrella Rigs and Suchlike
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:21:32 -0500, HK wrote:

No military types were training on the beach in front of or on either
side of the Del when I was outside

They are there. If you get too close to their training site in a boat
someone will quickly appear to escort you away. Don't ask me how I
know that.



No one was training on the beach in front of or on either side of the
hotel while I was out there, at least not within a half mile on one side
and a mile on the other side. That's as far as I walked.

Just a few folks surf fishing, a few walkers, a few sunbathers, et
cetera. No one was swimming, either. The surf was too high.