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On Feb 28, 3:11*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:43:56 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc wrote: On Feb 28, 1:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:36:34 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc wrote: Seems we seldom have more than one or two boating topics a day anyway. *But hope springs eternal! And spring is right around the corner for you high latitude folks. *It was in the 80s here last week but a chilly 40 something this morning. Hopefully the pool will warm up by late afternoon. Back to computers: *Read up on "the Turing Test" for some fresh insights: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test As you can see, this discussion has been going on for a long time. *I would postulate that Kasparov's automated opponent has already passed the test within its limited realm. *At some point, and it may have already started, computers will be expertly programmed to simulate feelings, emotion and creative thought. *When the simulations become so well done that world class experts can't tell the difference, what do you have then? Simulating human behavior is far from possessing human characteristics. My blow up doll does both. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But it will never pass for human because you don't have to buy it an expensive meal or ply it with alcohol to get to give it up. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:22:01 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc
wrote: On Feb 28, 3:11*pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:43:56 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc wrote: On Feb 28, 1:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:36:34 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc wrote: Seems we seldom have more than one or two boating topics a day anyway. *But hope springs eternal! And spring is right around the corner for you high latitude folks. *It was in the 80s here last week but a chilly 40 something this morning. Hopefully the pool will warm up by late afternoon. Back to computers: *Read up on "the Turing Test" for some fresh insights: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test As you can see, this discussion has been going on for a long time. *I would postulate that Kasparov's automated opponent has already passed the test within its limited realm. *At some point, and it may have already started, computers will be expertly programmed to simulate feelings, emotion and creative thought. *When the simulations become so well done that world class experts can't tell the difference, what do you have then? Simulating human behavior is far from possessing human characteristics. My blow up doll does both. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But it will never pass for human because you don't have to buy it an expensive meal or ply it with alcohol to get to give it up. ROTFL!!! If you ever get a chance, read David Levy's "Love and Sex With Robots: The Evolution of Human-Robot Relationships". Once you get past the whole robot sexmachina ideas, it is a fascinating look inside what makes an AI tick. I'll give you fair warning - it's his PhD dissertation cleaned up a little for commercial purposes so it can be a tad dense in areas. |
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jamesgangnc wrote:
nd creative thought. When the simulations become so well done that world class experts can't tell the difference, what do you have then? Simulating human behavior is far from possessing human characteristics. My blow up doll does both. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But it will never pass for human because you don't have to buy it an expensive meal or ply it with alcohol to get to give it up. Have you meet JohnH's blow up doll? |
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