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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:18:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message m... wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message m... On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote: In message , Eisboch is alleged to have said: This is the exact model: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg Blackie rules. That ain't blackie! The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's Clapton's main ride. Eisboch They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is essentially a "Strat Plus" with a black finish. Still a great guitar, though. I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them) What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"? Eisboch After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar I bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as a "Blackie". Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!! http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html Eisboch You've probably seen this site. It gives a lot of information on the replicas sold. http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=2 -- John H |
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"John H." wrote in message ... wrote in message ... That ain't blackie! They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is essentially a "Strat Plus" with a black finish. Still a great guitar, though. I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them) What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"? Eisboch After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar I bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as a "Blackie". Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!! http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html Eisboch You've probably seen this site. It gives a lot of information on the replicas sold. http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=2 -- John H Salty is correct. Mine is not one of the limited production replication Blackies. It's not aged and the back of the body is different. It looks like a Blackie, before aging, is called a Blackie and has the "Eric Clapton" signature on the headstock beside the "Stratocaster" title, but, like he says, it's basically a black Stat Plus. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Salty is correct. Mine is not one of the limited production replication Blackies. It's not aged and the back of the body is different. It looks like a Blackie, before aging, is called a Blackie and has the "Eric Clapton" signature on the headstock beside the "Stratocaster" title, but, like he says, it's basically a black Stat Plus. Eisboch I just noticed that the headstock also has "Blackie" printed below Eric Clapton's signature. So, technically it *is* a "Blackie", but it's not a Blackie. Or something like that. Eisboch |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:07:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message m... On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote: In message , Eisboch is alleged to have said: This is the exact model: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg Blackie rules. That ain't blackie! The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's Clapton's main ride. Eisboch They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is essentially a "Strat Plus" with a black finish. Still a great guitar, though. I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them) What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"? Eisboch Those pickups are called "Lace Sensors". The original Blackie was made 30 years before they were invented. BTW - Your local guitar shop wants to charge you 50-70 dollars to drop in a new reverb tank that retails for half that amount. The "labor" consists of R&R of 2 mounting screws, and plugging in 2 rca cables. I even found you an online amp parts place. Ther may be other that are even cheaper. Hopefully your guitar shop didn't buy a case of $5 taiwanese tanks, which are NOT going to sound the same. http://www.ampwares.com/reverb.html Why lug your amp back and forth to the shop needlessly? Thanks. I've already removed the "tank", so I'll call them and order a replacement for the Mesa Boogie original. I appreciate your knowledge of the Fender also. The subject may be boring others to tears, but I've learned a lot. Apparently, the guitar I bought is the one described at the following link, because it has the newer "noiseless" pickups. It also apparently has a battery powered preamp as described, which explains why it's output is so high compared to my other electrics. I have to figure out where the battery is. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Here's the link: http://www.kellyindustries.com/guita...c_clapton.html Eisboch |
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On Feb 13, 6:59*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
Mid winter boredom setting in, so I've been getting back into the guitars. I "self" taught myself and learned a bunch of bad habits, so I got some DVD instructional videos and have been practicing and trying to correct some of my *long established bad techniques. * I've finally mastered "Lying Eyes", doing both the chord progressions and riffs on a Taylor acoustic/electric. Even Mrs. E. is impressed. Very good, and kudos! But, yesterday I visited our local "Music Unlimited" store. *They sell both new, used and consignment instruments. One consignment guitar caught my eye. *It was the Eric Clapton model of a Fender Stratocaster. * I resisted at first, went home, then said "screw it" and went back and bought it. *It's in perfect, like-new condition. What nice guitar! * I love it. *The pickups are so hot that you have to turn the gain on the amp down to about half that used for the other electrics I have, including the Les Paul Gibson. * And it has that very characteristic Clapton sound. Yep, I like my strat, it's a very unique sound, but then so is the mellower Les Paul. |
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On Feb 14, 5:18*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: wrote in message . .. On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote: In , Eisboch is alleged to have said: This is the exact model: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg Blackie rules. That ain't blackie! The one I got is a "Blackie". * *And the one in the picture is. *It's Clapton's main ride. Eisboch I like the current Lucille: http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/pr...ucille/lucille.... Harry, I had no idea you played the guitar, way to go.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He's the best there is, of course. His tastes are exquisite. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:12:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: That's actually a pretty different guitar than the one that Clapton is playing in the first photo link you posted. The photo showed a slight variation on a Strat Plus with the lace sensor pickups, but not the roller nut found on a Strat Plus. Those were the two most distinct features of the Plus model, and the guitar you have doesn't have either of those features. I'd say yours is maybe more like the '57 reissue but with active electronics. If you aren't into the "dive bomber" thing with the tremlo bar, I'd leave the block of wood right where it is. It will help the guitar stay in tune. There is an old (and true) saying that "Fender guitar players spend half their life tuning and the other half playing out of tune". PROPERLY set up, they can be made to stay in tune, but even most professional guitar techs don't seem to be able to do this right. Still learning. I took a good look at it a while ago. It *does* have Lace pickups. (I was going by what the guitar store guy told me). "Lace sensors" is printed on them in tiny letters. It also has the active preamp. Downloaded the manual from the Fender website and found the battery. Finally figured out the function of the detent on the upper tone control. Thanks again for your help. Eisboch Clapton |
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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:12:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: That's actually a pretty different guitar than the one that Clapton is playing in the first photo link you posted. The photo showed a slight variation on a Strat Plus with the lace sensor pickups, but not the roller nut found on a Strat Plus. Those were the two most distinct features of the Plus model, and the guitar you have doesn't have either of those features. I'd say yours is maybe more like the '57 reissue but with active electronics. If you aren't into the "dive bomber" thing with the tremlo bar, I'd leave the block of wood right where it is. It will help the guitar stay in tune. There is an old (and true) saying that "Fender guitar players spend half their life tuning and the other half playing out of tune". PROPERLY set up, they can be made to stay in tune, but even most professional guitar techs don't seem to be able to do this right. Still learning. I took a good look at it a while ago. It *does* have Lace pickups. (I was going by what the guitar store guy told me). "Lace sensors" is printed on them in tiny letters. It also has the active preamp. Downloaded the manual from the Fender website and found the battery. Finally figured out the function of the detent on the upper tone control. Thanks again for your help. Eisboch Clapton Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar. |
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On Feb 13, 9:50*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: wrote in message .. . On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote: In , Eisboch is alleged to have said: This is the exact model: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg Blackie rules. That ain't blackie! The one I got is a "Blackie". * *And the one in the picture is. *It's Clapton's main ride. Eisboch I like the current Lucille: http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/pr...e/lucille....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I thought you were too cultured and refined to listen to anything besides flamenco and classical guitar.......... Or was that another lobster boating? |
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," "Made in China." About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. 1964 model I think. Paid 175 for it. The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," "Made in China." About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. 1964 model I think. Paid 175 for it. The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. |
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"HK" wrote in message
... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," "Made in China." About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. 1964 model I think. Paid 175 for it. The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," "Made in China." About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. 1964 model I think. Paid 175 for it. The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk. Electric stapler? :- Hey, I *like* electric guitar, but I learned on acoustic guitars. |
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:40:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," "Made in China." About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. 1964 model I think. Paid 175 for it. The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk. Acoustic, or electric? -- John H |
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:47:07 -0500, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," "Made in China." About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. 1964 model I think. Paid 175 for it. The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk. Electric stapler? :- Hey, I *like* electric guitar, but I learned on acoustic guitars. Strange, Harry, that in all this time you've never mentioned your prowess with the guitar. Sure hope you have some video! Harry, you honestly don't have to pretend to be a guitar player to fit in. Just by virtue of your 'character' and 'coolness', you fit in very well. -- John H |
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On Feb 14, 10:40*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. *From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. *When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. *Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. *Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. *Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," *"Made in China." *About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. *Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. *1964 model I think. *Paid 175 for it. *The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. *Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, wouldn't you know it, Harry is a guitar virtuoso along with all of his other refined and cultured passtimes. |
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On Feb 15, 7:42*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:47:07 -0500, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. *From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. *When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. *Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. *Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. *Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," *"Made in China." *About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. *Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. *1964 model I think. *Paid 175 for it. *The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. *Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk. Electric stapler? * :- Hey, I *like* electric guitar, but I learned on acoustic guitars. Strange, Harry, that in all this time you've never mentioned your prowess with the guitar. Sure hope you have some video! Exactly! Harry, you honestly don't have to pretend to be a guitar player to fit in. Just by virtue of your 'character' and 'coolness', you fit in very well. -- I wouldn't expect less of him! He's the best at EVERYTHING! Probably studied at Julliard while attending Yale..... |
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On Feb 15, 9:00*am, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:48:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 14, 10:40*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. *From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. *When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. *Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. *Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. *Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," *"Made in China." *About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. *Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. *1964 model I think. *Paid 175 for it. *The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. *Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, wouldn't you know it, Harry is a guitar virtuoso along with all of his other refined and cultured passtimes. I think of him more as being an organ grinder's monkey... but the best one that ever lived.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hell yes! You just KNOW he's the best! He's so cultured and refined! FAR more sophisticated than those other monkeys! |
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On Feb 15, 9:14*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:48:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 14, 10:40 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Mr. Clapton, My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. *From memory he picked the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model, but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. *When he went off to school and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat Strat. *Strats are just one hell of a guitar. One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought him a pretty but cheap electric. *Synsonics Pro Series. The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage, which is where I picked it up. *Plain cardboard box that said "Don't stack more than 20 high," *"Made in China." *About 100 bucks. He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar better. *Pretty much as I figured. Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard case. *1964 model I think. *Paid 175 for it. *The guy had bought it new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet. Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my closet. *Another son has that one and can actually play it some. Pretty geetar. --Vic I've never had an electric guitar, just acoustic guitars. I have a stapler on my desk.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, wouldn't you know it, Harry is a guitar virtuoso along with all of his other refined and cultured passtimes. I think of him more as being an organ grinder's monkey... but the best one that ever lived. Well, at least I am "best" at something. Where did "no brains at all" (Loogy) get the idea I was a "guitar virtuoso"? Certainly not from me. I play acoustic guitar - a little. I do like acoustic guitar music, though, when performed by professionals. I suppose that makes me more "refined and cultured" than the Atlanta nitwit.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And your childish name calling shows just EXACTLY how refined and cultured you are..... Gee, Harry, in all of the music posts you've posted to, how come you never mentioned this before? Are you lobster boating again? |
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wrote: I think of him more as being an organ grinder's monkey... but the best one that ever lived. Oh gawd! |
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Eisboch wrote: .. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. I decided not to try to use it. Even Fender does not recommend it and says the block under the bridge on this particular guitar is not intended to be removed although it can be done if you are so inclined. The only reason the bar is included in the production version of the "Blackie" is because Clapton's original that he built out of several used Strats had one and Fender wanted to preserve as much of the original design as possible. Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model. Eisboch |
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Tim wrote:
Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Jimi H. takes offense to that. |
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"Tim" wrote in message
... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot? |
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On Feb 15, 9:56*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model. Eisboch Well? Get another cup of coffee and start frekin' typing.. BTW, do you know of anyone "local" (tri state area) who sets up and/or works on electric guitars? |
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:39:44 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: wrote: I think of him more as being an organ grinder's monkey... but the best one that ever lived. Oh gawd! Which reminds me. Fellow at work told me about witnessing an incident of a guy teasing an organ grinders's monkey. The grinder warned him a couple times, then let the monkey loose. It jumped on the teaser's back, biting his neck, and his hands when he reached up trying to get it off. The fellow disappeared running around the corner screaming. The monkey came back to the grinder a couple minutes later. Happened in Chicago in the '30's. Hence the origin of the saw "Monkey on your back." Not that particular incident, but it sure brought it home when he told me about it. --Vic |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 15, 9:56 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model. Eisboch Well? Get another cup of coffee and start frekin' typing.. BTW, do you know of anyone "local" (tri state area) who sets up and/or works on electric guitars? Two in my area. Both are "Music Unlimited" stores. One is in Kingston, about 2 miles away and the other is in Hanover , about 12 miles. They both are staffed by musicians, pro and not so pro, but all are knowledgable and many attended schools of music. They provide lessons on just about any instrument and do repairs, refurbishments, etc, on guitars. I am going to bring my Taylor 12 string down to them, have it checked out, adjusted, restrung and, if possible, have the new piezo sensor and controls installed to convert it to acoustical/electric. The newer, six string Taylor I have has this system factory installed, and it sounds great, especially on an amp specifically designed for acoustic/electrics. I use a 65 watt "Kustom" for it and it sounds right at home playing along with the Eagles. If I use a regular, solid body electric guitar amp like the little Marshall I use for the electrics only, it sounds horrible. Eisboch |
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On Feb 15, 10:25*am, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:56:48 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . * There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. *Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. * Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. I decided not to try to use it. *Even Fender does not recommend it and says the block under the bridge on this particular guitar is not intended to be removed although it can be done if you are so inclined. The only reason the bar is included in the production version of the "Blackie" is because Clapton's original that he built out of several used Strats had one and Fender wanted to preserve as much of the original design as possible. Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model. Eisboch The Fender Jaguar and Jazzmaster guitars had a tremolo that could be immobilized by simply rotating the arm to face towards the tail of the guitar. The only disadvantage to it was that it was also limited to loosening the strings by pressing down, but could not tighten the strings by pulling upwards. It did stay in tune better than the type used for the Strats.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I am starting to like playing my electric with no pick. Although I play through a 15 amp practice amp (got a Boss DS1 too:) I am able to pull some nice (to me) sounds out with my fingers.. I am a real beginner though, so I don't have a lot to compare to. When I watch my G3 CD I get a little idea. It's funny. With all my rock and roll background and I worked around music a lot as a vocalist, I never really paid much attention to the individual sound or feel of different guitars. I heard them, but never really listened, ****es me off now as I had so many opportunities and willing teachers when I was a kid. |
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... On Feb 15, 10:25 am, wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:56:48 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. I decided not to try to use it. Even Fender does not recommend it and says the block under the bridge on this particular guitar is not intended to be removed although it can be done if you are so inclined. The only reason the bar is included in the production version of the "Blackie" is because Clapton's original that he built out of several used Strats had one and Fender wanted to preserve as much of the original design as possible. Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model. Eisboch The Fender Jaguar and Jazzmaster guitars had a tremolo that could be immobilized by simply rotating the arm to face towards the tail of the guitar. The only disadvantage to it was that it was also limited to loosening the strings by pressing down, but could not tighten the strings by pulling upwards. It did stay in tune better than the type used for the Strats.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I am starting to like playing my electric with no pick. Although I play through a 15 amp practice amp (got a Boss DS1 too:) I am able to pull some nice (to me) sounds out with my fingers.. I am a real beginner though, so I don't have a lot to compare to. When I watch my G3 CD I get a little idea. It's funny. With all my rock and roll background and I worked around music a lot as a vocalist, I never really paid much attention to the individual sound or feel of different guitars. I heard them, but never really listened, ****es me off now as I had so many opportunities and willing teachers when I was a kid. ====================== Q: How can you tell when the stage is perfectly level? A: When the guitarist is drooling from both sides of his mouth. |
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wrote in message ... The Fender Jaguar and Jazzmaster guitars had a tremolo that could be immobilized by simply rotating the arm to face towards the tail of the guitar. The only disadvantage to it was that it was also limited to loosening the strings by pressing down, but could not tighten the strings by pulling upwards. It did stay in tune better than the type used for the Strats. I have a Peavey electric that operates that way. I think it depends on what brand of bridge they use. Eisboch |
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On Feb 15, 10:35*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 15, 9:56 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model. Eisboch Well? Get another cup of coffee and start frekin' typing.. BTW, do you know of anyone "local" (tri state area) who sets up and/or works on electric guitars? Two in my area. *Both are "Music Unlimited" stores. *One is in Kingston, about 2 miles away and the other is in Hanover , about 12 miles. *They both are staffed by musicians, pro and not so pro, but all are knowledgable and many attended schools of music. I have a couple of places here like that, but I really want a professional mechanic to check this out for me. I think I have heard of the guy Salty reccomended in Middletown, I may give him a call. They provide lessons on just about any instrument and do repairs, refurbishments, etc, on guitars. I am going to bring my Taylor 12 string down to them, have it checked out, adjusted, restrung and, if possible, have the new piezo sensor and controls installed to convert it to acoustical/electric. * The newer, six string Taylor I have has this system factory installed, and it sounds great, especially on an amp specifically designed for acoustic/electrics. *I use a 65 watt "Kustom" for it and it sounds right at home playing along with the Eagles. * If I use a regular, solid body electric guitar amp like the little Marshall I use for the electrics only, it sounds horrible. I have a Martin Backpacker, love it but wanted to plug it in. Now this is a small guitar with not a lot of wood already but mine has a "sweet" piece of wood, everyone who has heard or played it, agrees. Anyway, I was told by many folks not to tap into the body for a pickup, that is could change the sound, even a 1/4 inch hole which I would have needed. I opted for a Dean Markely acoustic pickup, it sticks to the body with putty. I imagine this solution may not be acceptable to your ears and up to speed with your equipment, but for me it worked fine. Now you can get the Backpacker from the factory with the pickup built in. I have an Ovation 6 string, and a Takamine 12 that are acoustic/ electric... They both sound good to me, but again I have little experience to know the difference... I like em' though. Good luck with the new Fender. My wife saw one a few months back and had me look at it, I ended up with something else.. Eisboch |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 15, 9:56 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model. Eisboch Well? Get another cup of coffee and start frekin' typing.. Ok. Here's what I've garnered from searching around on the Web and from information directly from the Fender website. Early in his career, Eric Clapton happened to stop in at a music store and found several used Fender guitars for sale for something like 100 bucks each. He bought them all, took them home and built a custom guitar using parts from the various $100 guitars. He modified the shape of the body to his liking and installed some "hot" pickups that he preferred. After it was finished, he painted it with black lacquer and named it "Blackie". He used "Blackie" for many years as he became successful and famous, both for recording of albums and in live concerts. Sometime in the late 80's it had become very beat up. The paint was worn and chipping away, it had cigarette burns on the headstock and looked a mess. He officially "retired" it, although he still used it occasionally for concert performances. Years later, Fender contacted him about doing a special, custom built replica of it. Clapton agreed and sent them the original Blackie. Fender built 224, custom built Strats, exactly like the worn original. They duplicated the chipped and worn paint and even the cigarette burns. All 224 of them were sold for $24,000 each. None are currently available for sale anywhere that I could find on the 'Net. After that, Fender and Clapton agreed to introduce a new line of production Strats, based basically on the original Blackie design, but with more modern pickups, etc. It was introduced as the Eric Clapton Artist "Blackie" version of the Fender Stratocaster. The one I bought is one of these. There's a little bit of discontinuity in that the current version uses Vintage Noiseless Pickups and a pre-amp with a special tone control called "The Clapton Circuit". Mine has Lace Sensor pickups, but also has the "Clapton Circuit". It's basically a dual pot setup on the middle tone control with a detent position at the "5" setting. It acts like a regular, full range tone control from 0 to 5 and then the "Clapton" sound kicks in from 5 to 10. The preamp also produces a 25db gain in the midrange, making it very "hot" compared to a regular, passive electric. This was done in an attempt to as faithfully as possible reproduce the sound of the original "Blackie" that Clapton built. Eisboch |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot? No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins. But the common ordinary rocker wannabe? well...... |
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... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot? No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins. But the common ordinary rocker wannabe? well...... ....and Jeff Beck, and a guy around here named Steve Grills, who gives Beck a run for his money. |
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wrote: I am starting to like playing my electric with no pick. Chuck Berry always did and still does.... |
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On Feb 15, 1:14*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 15, 11:32 am, Tim wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Tim" wrote in message .... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot? No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins. But the common ordinary rocker wannabe? well......- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his inability. =================== Scary good tremolo bar, but subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for... |
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On Feb 15, 2:00*pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:27*pm, wrote: On Feb 15, 1:14*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .... On Feb 15, 11:32 am, Tim wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot? No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins. But the common ordinary rocker wannabe? well......- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his inability. =================== Scary good tremolo bar, but subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - no pick... just like me;) |
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... On Feb 15, 1:27 pm, wrote: On Feb 15, 1:14 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 15, 11:32 am, Tim wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot? No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins. But the common ordinary rocker wannabe? well......- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his inability. =================== Scary good tremolo bar, but subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for... ================== For me lately, it's Harold Floyd, the bassist who played with Clarence Gatemouth Brown. His playing is absolutely perfect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ArkvEByYGo |
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On Feb 15, 2:00*pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:27*pm, wrote: On Feb 15, 1:14*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .... On Feb 15, 11:32 am, Tim wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: . There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff. Tremlo bar = idiot stick. Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot? No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins. But the common ordinary rocker wannabe? well......- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his inability. =================== Scary good tremolo bar, but subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey, at least you aim high! After all of this music talk, I've told some friends to come on over and jam tomorrow evening, I've got a keg of porter all ready to go! |
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