While flippin' channels yesterday, I breezed through CNN.
There was some king of panel with Wolfe Blitzer, that tall lanky guy, Jack
McClafferty? and a couple others.
They were talking about some voting irregularities in Washington (state?) by
the Republicans. Apparantly, the people counting the ballots figured they
could predict the outcome at a certain point in their counting..so packed it
in before finishing. What the &*^?
Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are run
on the up & up. Afterall someone has to help protect that fledging democracy
you'all call the U.S.of A.

Don White wrote:
While flippin' channels yesterday, I breezed through CNN.
There was some king of panel with Wolfe Blitzer, that tall lanky guy, Jack
McClafferty? and a couple others.
They were talking about some voting irregularities in Washington (state?) by
the Republicans. Apparantly, the people counting the ballots figured they
could predict the outcome at a certain point in their counting..so packed it
in before finishing. What the &*^?
Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are run
on the up & up. Afterall someone has to help protect that fledging democracy
you'all call the U.S.of A.




That apparently is what happened. Despite a close race in the GOP
primary, when the counters had counted about 80% of the ballots, the
state GOP guy said that's enough, stop counting.

Welcome to Amerika. In 2008, GOP voters will leave the polls with ink
smudges on their thumbs they can hold up to show they favor elections,
but not democracy. :-)

On Feb 12, 10:37*am, "Don White" wrote:
While flippin' channels yesterday, I breezed through CNN.
There was some king of panel with Wolfe Blitzer, that tall lanky guy, Jack
McClafferty? and a couple others.
They were talking about some voting irregularities in Washington (state?) by
the Republicans. *Apparantly, the people counting the ballots figured they
could predict the outcome at a certain point in their counting..so packed it
in before finishing. *What the &*^?
Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are run
on the up & up. Afterall someone has to help protect that fledging democracy
you'all call the U.S.of A.

It's a standard practice, probably done in every single state, or in
your case province. .. Relax, your bankroll is not going anywhere...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:37:46 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are
run
on the up & up.

Sure why not.

We can always learn new ways to create scandals from you folks.

For example:

snip...
~~ snerk ~~


Yikes...you went back 30 years on some of that material...
If I did that for the US, I'd dominate the newsgroup for the next 2 light
years!

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:37:46 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

While flippin' channels yesterday, I breezed through CNN.
There was some king of panel with Wolfe Blitzer, that tall lanky guy, Jack
McClafferty? and a couple others.
They were talking about some voting irregularities in Washington (state?) by
the Republicans. Apparantly, the people counting the ballots figured they
could predict the outcome at a certain point in their counting..so packed it
in before finishing. What the &*^?
Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are run
on the up & up. Afterall someone has to help protect that fledging democracy
you'all call the U.S.of A.


Don, if it's a 'winner take all' state, and one candidate already has over
half the votes cast, then there is no reason to go any further with the
counting.

Are you wanting some Canadian scandals to read about? Every time you bring
up something derogatory about the US, you get bitch-slapped with worse
Canadian ****. When will you learn?

You should just trail Harry and tell him how 'cool' he is.
--
John H

Thanks. I should have read your's first. Saved me some trouble.




On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:23:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:37:46 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are run
on the up & up.

Sure why not.

We can always learn new ways to create scandals from you folks.

For example:

APEC Inquiry - 1997 - Royal Canadian Mounted Police conduct at the
APEC summit in Vancouver.

Shawinigate - 1999 - Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's profiting from
property interests in his riding.

Sponsorship scandal - 2004 - misuse and misdirection of funds
disbursed through the Liberal government's 1990s sponsorship program.
Investigated by the Gomery Commission.

In and Out scandal - 2007 - alleged circumvention of election finance
rules by the Conservatives in the 2006 election campaign

Dar Heatherington - forced to resign from Lethbridge city council in
2004 after being convicted of public mischief.

FastCat Fiasco (aka "Ferrygate" or simply "the Fast Ferries") - 1990s
construction of a fleet of high speed ferry vessels that ended up
being massively over-budget and actually slower than existing ferries

Gordon Wilson-Judy Tyabji Affair (British Columbia Liberal Party) -
semi-secret romance between the Opposition Leader and his House Whip
leads to their downfall

BC Legislature Raids ("Ledgegate") (BC Liberal Party) - raids on
offices of senior political aides in the legislature connected to
everything from marijuana grow-ops to questions connected with the
sale of BC Rail to Canadian National.

Ipperwash Crisis - incident involving the shooting death of Dudley
George, an unarmed Native activist, by an Ontario Provincial Police
officer in 1995

Kimberly Rogers - After a disputed welfare fraud conviction, Rogers
committed suicide in her Sudbury apartment while under house arrest in
2001, leading to extensive controversy around the Mike Harris
government's 1996 welfare reforms, as well as an inquest which made
several still-unimplemented recommendations for changes to the system.
Toronto Computer Leasing Inquiry - judicial inquiry into improper
computer leasing contracts made by Toronto's municipal government in
1999

Walkerton water scandal in the year 2000

Toronto Police Drug Scandal - multiple scandals broke out in early
2004, as a result of internal affairs and RCMP investigations.
Allegations of the sale of narcotics, fake search warrants, raid
tip-offs and mob gambling debts involved many dozens of Toronto police
officers, including former chief William J. McCormack's son, Michael,
who was eventually brought up on 23 charges. As a result of the
scandal, the plainclothes downtown unit which many of the charged
officers worked out of was disbanded. The court cases relating to
these charges continue.

The Thornhill Affair - involved Roland Thornhill, who resigned as
Deputy Premier in the 1990s after allegations dealing with a debt
settlement from 1980 was brought into question.

The Billy Joe MacLean Affair - MLA Billy Joe MacLean was expelled from
the Assembly after Premier John Buchanan's Progressive Conservative
government introduced legislation prohibiting anyone from sitting in
the assembly who had been indicted by the courts.

Progressive Conservative Party of Saskatchewan scandals - Scandals
that emerged in the 1990s involving Grant Devine's Progressive
Conservative government implicating 16 MLAs, with the chief conviction
that of Deputy Premier Eric Berntson in 1999.

Colin Thatcher murder.

~~ snerk ~~

--
John H

wrote in message
...
On Feb 12, 10:37 am, "Don White" wrote:
While flippin' channels yesterday, I breezed through CNN.
There was some king of panel with Wolfe Blitzer, that tall lanky guy, Jack
McClafferty? and a couple others.
They were talking about some voting irregularities in Washington (state?)
by
the Republicans. Apparantly, the people counting the ballots figured they
could predict the outcome at a certain point in their counting..so packed
it
in before finishing. What the &*^?
Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are
run
on the up & up. Afterall someone has to help protect that fledging
democracy
you'all call the U.S.of A.

It's a standard practice, probably done in every single state, or in
your case province. .. Relax, your bankroll is not going anywhere...


Could be...but the CNN guys didn't think much of the practice.

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:37:46 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are
run
on the up & up.
Sure why not.

We can always learn new ways to create scandals from you folks.

For example:

snip...
~~ snerk ~~


Yikes...you went back 30 years on some of that material...
If I did that for the US, I'd dominate the newsgroup for the next 2 light
years!



You won't be able to top this scandal:

George W. Bush & Dick(less) Cheney.


Go ahead...make my day. :-

On Feb 12, 7:37�am, "Don White" wrote:
While flippin' channels yesterday, I breezed through CNN.
There was some king of panel with Wolfe Blitzer, that tall lanky guy, Jack
McClafferty? and a couple others.
They were talking about some voting irregularities in Washington (state?) by
the Republicans. �Apparantly, the people counting the ballots figured they
could predict the outcome at a certain point in their counting..so packed it
in before finishing. �What the &*^?
Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are run
on the up & up. Afterall someone has to help protect that fledging democracy
you'all call the U.S.of A.

And here's the irony;

Our current state governor (a D) was elected by a margin of a couple
of hundred votes, maybe less. With over a million votes to count, our
state law requires a recount if the margin is less than percent or so.
The quick and dirty first count showed the Republican winning by a
very slim margin. The recount reversed the outcome, with some errors
in the state's largest county (also the most extremely D county) being
discovered. Even though there were at least a few errors in virtually
*every* county in the state, the R team focused on the errors found in
the most urban county and began screaming "Vote Fraud! The count has
been rigged in the liberal county to change the outcome!!"

Roll the clock forward to the Republican primary; With 80-some percent
of the votes counted the officially "preferred" Republican candidate
had a narrow lead. Rather than risk any change in the desired outcome,
the R's decided to simply *stop counting* the rest of the ballots!
(Vote fraud, indeed). Huckabee's legal team put enough pressure on the
state party that counting resumed. It didn't change the outcome, but
it sure took the wind out of the R party sails for the next time they
lose by a narrow amount and want to claim there were irregularities in
the count.

I guess 99.99% accurate is only an acceptable standard if the final
totals reflect the results wanted. Errors are made in favor of as well
as against both sides in every count, but outright fruad is pretty
rare.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:07:09 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 12, 7:37?am, "Don White" wrote:
While flippin' channels yesterday, I breezed through CNN.
There was some king of panel with Wolfe Blitzer, that tall lanky guy, Jack
McClafferty? and a couple others.
They were talking about some voting irregularities in Washington (state?) by
the Republicans. ?Apparantly, the people counting the ballots figured they
could predict the outcome at a certain point in their counting..so packed it
in before finishing. ?What the &*^?
Canada may have to start sending down observers to make sure things are run
on the up & up. Afterall someone has to help protect that fledging democracy
you'all call the U.S.of A.

And here's the irony;

Our current state governor (a D) was elected by a margin of a couple
of hundred votes, maybe less. With over a million votes to count, our
state law requires a recount if the margin is less than percent or so.
The quick and dirty first count showed the Republican winning by a
very slim margin. The recount reversed the outcome, with some errors
in the state's largest county (also the most extremely D county) being
discovered. Even though there were at least a few errors in virtually
*every* county in the state, the R team focused on the errors found in
the most urban county and began screaming "Vote Fraud! The count has
been rigged in the liberal county to change the outcome!!"

Roll the clock forward to the Republican primary; With 80-some percent
of the votes counted the officially "preferred" Republican candidate
had a narrow lead. Rather than risk any change in the desired outcome,
the R's decided to simply *stop counting* the rest of the ballots!
(Vote fraud, indeed). Huckabee's legal team put enough pressure on the
state party that counting resumed. It didn't change the outcome, but
it sure took the wind out of the R party sails for the next time they
lose by a narrow amount and want to claim there were irregularities in
the count.

I guess 99.99% accurate is only an acceptable standard if the final
totals reflect the results wanted. Errors are made in favor of as well
as against both sides in every count, but outright fruad is pretty
rare.

I'm going to try to make up for all your problems, Chuck. The wife and I
will be voting for Obama in about 15 minutes!
--
John H