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SARASOTA, Fla., January 28, 2008 - Last fall, Hydra-Sports
introduced its biggest boat ever with the 3500 Vector Express. This
year, at the Miami International Boat Show, Hydra-Sports is going even
bigger with its new 4100 Vector Sport Fish. Measuring a full 41 feet,
6 inches overall with a 12-foot beam and 23 degree dead rise, the 4100
takes its place at the top of the Hydra-Sports line.
The 4100 features the same Kevlar-reinforced, hand-laid fiberglass-
laminated all-composite hull utilizing a premium gel coat finish as
its smaller Hydra-Sports Vectors. The Integrated Structural Grid
system, built of finished fiberglass bonded to the hull with
methacrylate adhesive and injected with urethane foam is the backbone
for the famous Hydra-Sports ride.
As a serious offshore fisherman, one can expect nothing but the best
from fuel capacity, range and cruising comfort. Ten different power
options in triple or quad outboard configurations, powering up to
1,400 hp, from Yamaha, Evinrude or Mercury and a 600 plus-gallon fuel
capacity.
Engineered, designed, and inspired by a long history of competitive
fishing, the 4100 comes standard with six fish boxes, a 60-gallon
tournament live well, plenty of rod holders and more than ample rod
storage, a bait prep area with freshwater sink, tackle/gear storage
and a pullout cooler. An optional Pro Package offers a 55-gallon bait
well, two tuna tubes and a tackle center in place of the bait prep
station, among other offerings.
Other options offered for the 4100 Vector Sport Fish include a premium
electronics package up to twin 17 inch screens, bow thruster, and six
color choices: Gravity Black, Platinum Gray, Glacier Blue, Atlantic
Blue, Midnight Blue and Fishing Lady Yellow.
For more information, check this whale of a boat out at the Miami
International Boat Show, in the water, at the Sea Isle Marina from
February 14 - 18, 2008 and see it for yourself.

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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:34:46 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

For more information, check this whale of a boat out at the Miami
International Boat Show, in the water, at the Sea Isle Marina from
February 14 - 18, 2008 and see it for yourself.

Whale is right.

I saw the pics at Hartford - it's a behemouth all right.

Took another look at that Grady White Canyon 33 today at lunch while
breaking the display down.

If I could only convince them to take those Yamaha four jokes off the
back and replace them with ETECs, I'd get REAL serious about that
boat.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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SARASOTA, Fla., January 28, 2008 - Last fall, Hydra-Sports
introduced its biggest boat ever with the 3500 Vector Express. This
year, at the Miami International Boat Show, Hydra-Sports is going even
bigger with its new 4100 Vector Sport Fish. Measuring a full 41 feet,
6 inches overall with a 12-foot beam and 23 degree dead rise, the 4100
takes its place at the top of the Hydra-Sports line.
The 4100 features the same Kevlar-reinforced, hand-laid fiberglass-
laminated all-composite hull utilizing a premium gel coat finish as
its smaller Hydra-Sports Vectors. The Integrated Structural Grid
system, built of finished fiberglass bonded to the hull with
methacrylate adhesive and injected with urethane foam is the backbone
for the famous Hydra-Sports ride.
As a serious offshore fisherman, one can expect nothing but the best
from fuel capacity, range and cruising comfort. Ten different power
options in triple or quad outboard configurations, powering up to
1,400 hp, from Yamaha, Evinrude or Mercury and a 600 plus-gallon fuel
capacity.
Engineered, designed, and inspired by a long history of competitive
fishing, the 4100 comes standard with six fish boxes, a 60-gallon
tournament live well, plenty of rod holders and more than ample rod
storage, a bait prep area with freshwater sink, tackle/gear storage
and a pullout cooler. An optional Pro Package offers a 55-gallon bait
well, two tuna tubes and a tackle center in place of the bait prep
station, among other offerings.
Other options offered for the 4100 Vector Sport Fish include a premium
electronics package up to twin 17 inch screens, bow thruster, and six
color choices: Gravity Black, Platinum Gray, Glacier Blue, Atlantic
Blue, Midnight Blue and Fishing Lady Yellow.
For more information, check this whale of a boat out at the Miami
International Boat Show, in the water, at the Sea Isle Marina from
February 14 - 18, 2008 and see it for yourself.

Must not be seeing a recession ahead. As to snow, got snowed on today
coming over the Grapevine on I-5 when returning from the kids in L.A.
Younger one's B'day and the older ones wedding anniversary. Hills around
Los Angeles were gorgeous yesterday when the sun was out and they were
covered in snow. Walked on the beach at Venus Beach Saturday. Nice sunny
day between rain storms. No wind, that came later, and the surf was large
and well formed waves.

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On Jan 28, 11:31�pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...





SARASOTA, Fla., January 28, 2008 - � Last fall, Hydra-Sports
introduced its biggest boat ever with the 3500 Vector Express. �This
year, at the Miami International Boat Show, Hydra-Sports is going even
bigger with its new 4100 Vector Sport Fish. �Measuring a full 41 feet,
6 inches overall with a 12-foot beam and 23 degree dead rise, the 4100
takes its place at the top of the Hydra-Sports line.
The 4100 features the same Kevlar-reinforced, hand-laid fiberglass-
laminated all-composite hull utilizing a premium gel coat finish as
its smaller Hydra-Sports Vectors. �The Integrated Structural Grid
system, built of finished fiberglass bonded to the hull with
methacrylate adhesive and injected with urethane foam is the backbone
for the famous Hydra-Sports ride.
As a serious offshore fisherman, one can expect nothing but the best
from fuel capacity, range and cruising comfort. �Ten different power
options in triple or quad outboard configurations, powering up to
1,400 hp, from Yamaha, Evinrude or Mercury and a 600 plus-gallon fuel
capacity.
Engineered, designed, and inspired by a long history of competitive
fishing, �the 4100 comes standard with six fish boxes, a 60-gallon
tournament live well, plenty of rod holders and more than ample rod
storage, a bait prep area with freshwater sink, tackle/gear storage
and a pullout cooler. �An optional Pro Package offers a 55-gallon bait
well, two tuna tubes and a tackle center in place of the bait prep
station, among other offerings.
Other options offered for the 4100 Vector Sport Fish include a premium
electronics package up to twin 17 inch screens, bow thruster, and six
color choices: Gravity Black, Platinum Gray, Glacier Blue, Atlantic
Blue, Midnight Blue and Fishing Lady Yellow.
For more information, check this whale of a boat out at the Miami
International Boat Show, in the water, at the Sea Isle Marina from
February 14 - 18, 2008 and see it for yourself.

Must not be seeing a recession ahead. �As to snow, got snowed on today
coming over the Grapevine on I-5 when returning from the kids in L.A.
Younger one's B'day and the older ones wedding anniversary. �Hills around
Los Angeles were gorgeous yesterday when the sun was out and they were
covered in snow. �Walked on the beach at Venus Beach Saturday. �Nice sunny
day between rain storms. �No wind, that came later, and the surf was large
and well formed waves.- Hide quoted text -

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Snow in LA has to be extremely rare. Weird weather we're having
lately, but then again that's a pretty old cliche so weird weather has
been with us for a good long while.

Recession in the boat business? I think it will depend on the sector.
The business cycle in the boat business is normally two years up,
three years down. We've just completed the first "down year", with two
to go. Because the industry is coming off one heck of a *boom* during
the last up cycle, the downtick looks worse than it is when compared
to recent activity. Some of the old-timers are remarking, "Things are
off, but really they're just about back to normal."

Look for those boats sold to family-wage earners putting a minimum
amount down and stretching the payments over 15 years to fall off
some. My horseback conclusion so far from the Seattle Boat Show is
that families are still interested in getting into boating, but there
will be fewer 34-footers and more 24-footers sold to people just
starting out.
There is still plenty of money at the top, as always. Even so, I
understand the "waiting list" for delivery of one brand of new boat
(that sells for $400k to $1mm plus) is now somewhat shorter than the
20-24 months it had been.

Every manufacturer is counting on hitting a few home runs with their
top of the line products to carry them through the next two years. If
history can be used as an indicator- some will and some won't sell
enough high end product to those "insulated" from economic conditions
to weather the normal business cycle.

The bull in the crockery shop could be fuel prices. I noticed a "Go
RVing" ad on TV the other night, urging families to buy a motor home.
The ad was sponsored by the RV trade association. I had seen the same
spot once or twice a year or so ago, but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business. Maybe people are still buying at the upper end of the
product range, but there isn't enough volume there to go around. Maybe
folks just starting out are settling for more modest rigs. If so, the
obvious common link would be recreational consumption of fuel at a
time when fuel is expensive by almost any standard.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business

There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock.

I don't know what that means exactly, but...

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business

There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock.

I don't know what that means exactly, but...


Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business

There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock. I don't know what that means exactly, but...


Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?




Same reason why would anyoen buy a decent sized boat. They enjoy the
device. Lots of these RV'ers that full time, do not drive that many miles a
year. Maybe 5000. And at about 7-8 mpg, the extra cost for fuel is not a
big item in the overall cost. And people who use the RV for weekend trips
drive even less a year.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business
There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock. I don't know what that means exactly, but...

Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?




Same reason why would anyoen buy a decent sized boat. They enjoy the
device. Lots of these RV'ers that full time, do not drive that many miles a
year. Maybe 5000. And at about 7-8 mpg, the extra cost for fuel is not a
big item in the overall cost. And people who use the RV for weekend trips
drive even less a year.




Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business
There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock. I don't know what that means exactly, but...

Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?




Same reason why would anyoen buy a decent sized boat. They enjoy the
device. Lots of these RV'ers that full time, do not drive that many miles a
year. Maybe 5000. And at about 7-8 mpg, the extra cost for fuel is not a
big item in the overall cost. And people who use the RV for weekend trips
drive even less a year.




There's a big RV dealer on I-66 heading west out of the DC area towards
Manassas, VA. He's got what looks like hundreds if not a thousand new
RVs on that lot. Hope he has a dealer financing arrangement other than
floor-planning.

:-)

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business
There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock. I don't know what that means exactly, but...

Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?




Same reason why would anyoen buy a decent sized boat. They enjoy the
device. Lots of these RV'ers that full time, do not drive that many
miles a year. Maybe 5000. And at about 7-8 mpg, the extra cost for fuel
is not a big item in the overall cost. And people who use the RV for
weekend trips drive even less a year.


Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.

Some like RV's, some like the trip, some like wet boats, some like dry
boats. What ever fuels your Johnson.

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HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business
There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock. I don't know what that means exactly, but...

Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?




Same reason why would anyoen buy a decent sized boat. They enjoy the
device. Lots of these RV'ers that full time, do not drive that many
miles a year. Maybe 5000. And at about 7-8 mpg, the extra cost for
fuel is not a big item in the overall cost. And people who use the RV
for weekend trips drive even less a year.



Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.

Who peed in your Special-K this morning?

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from
the
boat business
There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock. I don't know what that means exactly, but...

Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?




Same reason why would anyoen buy a decent sized boat. They enjoy the
device. Lots of these RV'ers that full time, do not drive that many
miles a year. Maybe 5000. And at about 7-8 mpg, the extra cost for
fuel is not a big item in the overall cost. And people who use the
RV for weekend trips drive even less a year.



Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.

Who peed in your Special-K this morning?



Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:03:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business

There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock.

I don't know what that means exactly, but...


Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?



The one I'm looking at gets about 22mpg, but burns diesel.
--
John H

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On Jan 29, 5:22�pm, John H. wrote:


The one I'm looking at gets about 22mpg, but burns diesel.
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You should say *and* burns diesel. That's a plus, IMO.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..


Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.

Who peed in your Special-K this morning?



Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.


No wonder you've become so grouchy.

Eisboch

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"John H." wrote in message
...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:03:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business

There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock.

I don't know what that means exactly, but...


Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?



The one I'm looking at gets about 22mpg, but burns diesel.


22 mpg is a *little* optimistic, although some have reported getting it.
19-20 mpg at 65-70 mph highway driving is realistic, a little less if you
tow a loaded trailer.

I'll tell you, if you do purchase it, you are going to love that little
Mercedes diesel. It's amazing.

Eisboch

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hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different
from the
boat business
There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock. I don't know what that means exactly, but...

Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?




Same reason why would anyoen buy a decent sized boat. They enjoy
the device. Lots of these RV'ers that full time, do not drive that
many miles a year. Maybe 5000. And at about 7-8 mpg, the extra
cost for fuel is not a big item in the overall cost. And people who
use the RV for weekend trips drive even less a year.



Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.

Who peed in your Special-K this morning?



Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.

Oatmeal is much easier when you are losing your teeth, it guess it just
slides down without any chewing.

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.
Who peed in your Special-K this morning?


Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.


No wonder you've become so grouchy.

Eisboch




It's healthy. I don't eat "fatty" foods very often. My cholesterol
numbers are right where I want them to be, and without medications.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Yeah, driving is so much fun, and driving a barge is even more fun.
Who peed in your Special-K this morning?


Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.


No wonder you've become so grouchy.

Eisboch


It's healthy. I don't eat "fatty" foods very often. My cholesterol numbers
are right where I want them to be, and without medications.
Oh! you're so special

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"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:


Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.


No wonder you've become so grouchy.

Eisboch


It's healthy. I don't eat "fatty" foods very often. My cholesterol numbers
are right where I want them to be, and without medications.

No disagreement that it's good for you. I tried over and over last winter
with the various types but just couldn't handle it. I do a cup of dry
puffed wheat and some yogurt (which took some time, but I now enjoy).

Eisboch

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:49:33 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jan 29, 5:22?pm, John H. wrote:


The one I'm looking at gets about 22mpg, but burns diesel.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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You should say *and* burns diesel. That's a plus, IMO.

I said 'but' because I was thinking of the fuel cost. Overall, I agree with
you.
--
John H

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:30:31 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:03:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:10:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

but I wouldn't be surprised to
learn that the state of the RV business is not that different from the
boat business

There is a RV dealer down the highway from me - he still has 2003
models in stock.

I don't know what that means exactly, but...


Why would anyone in his right mind buy an RV these days, with fuel
hovering at $3+ a gallon and the ****-poor mileage those vehicles get?



The one I'm looking at gets about 22mpg, but burns diesel.


22 mpg is a *little* optimistic, although some have reported getting it.
19-20 mpg at 65-70 mph highway driving is realistic, a little less if you
tow a loaded trailer.

I'll tell you, if you do purchase it, you are going to love that little
Mercedes diesel. It's amazing.

Eisboch


The people selling it have a letter in the window claiming to get 22mpg.
But, they also say they set the cruise control at 60mph and spend the day
in the right hand lane.

I wonder what you'd get if you did the same?
--
John H

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:
Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.

No wonder you've become so grouchy.

Eisboch

It's healthy. I don't eat "fatty" foods very often. My cholesterol numbers
are right where I want them to be, and without medications.

No disagreement that it's good for you. I tried over and over last winter
with the various types but just couldn't handle it. I do a cup of dry
puffed wheat and some yogurt (which took some time, but I now enjoy).

Eisboch



I don't know that it is true, but the claim for oatmeal is that it
absorbs "cholesterol" or fat, anyway, and keeps some of it from getting
into your bloodstream. I like puffed wheat, too, but I don't believe it
works as oatmeal does. Have you tried any of the low-fat yogurt drinks?
Not bad.

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"John H." wrote in message
...


The people selling it have a letter in the window claiming to get 22mpg.
But, they also say they set the cruise control at 60mph and spend the day
in the right hand lane.

I wonder what you'd get if you did the same?
--
John H

It probably would, especially if it was lightly loaded (meaning no water in
the tanks, and half of the pots, pans and other "stuff" that Mrs.E. has
packed away in it.

Eisboch

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"HK" wrote in message
...


I don't know that it is true, but the claim for oatmeal is that it absorbs
"cholesterol" or fat, anyway, and keeps some of it from getting into your
bloodstream. I like puffed wheat, too, but I don't believe it works as
oatmeal does. Have you tried any of the low-fat yogurt drinks?


I did, but I like the 60 calorie yogurt cups better. When I remember to
stock up, I snack on them 3 or 4 times a day.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...


The people selling it have a letter in the window claiming to get 22mpg.
But, they also say they set the cruise control at 60mph and spend the day
in the right hand lane.

I wonder what you'd get if you did the same?
--
John H

It probably would, especially if it was lightly loaded (meaning no water
in the tanks, and half of the pots, pans and other "stuff" that Mrs.E. has
packed away in it.

Eisboch


Sounds very plausible. My diesel crewcab Chevy gets about 19 at 70 mph.
Only long trip, maybe 90 miles where I did 65 as that was the traffic flow,
I got about 20.5 mpg. Only problem I have heard about the Sprinters is that
a couple of the conversion companies were adding too much weight, and were
exceeding the manufacturers ratings.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:
Oatmeal, the old fashioned kind, with a banana.

No wonder you've become so grouchy.

Eisboch

It's healthy. I don't eat "fatty" foods very often. My cholesterol
numbers are right where I want them to be, and without medications.

No disagreement that it's good for you. I tried over and over last
winter with the various types but just couldn't handle it. I do a cup
of dry puffed wheat and some yogurt (which took some time, but I now
enjoy).

Eisboch

I don't know that it is true, but the claim for oatmeal is that it absorbs
"cholesterol" or fat, anyway, and keeps some of it from getting into your
bloodstream. I like puffed wheat, too, but I don't believe it works as
oatmeal does. Have you tried any of the low-fat yogurt drinks? Not bad.

The studies on oatmeal and cholesterol show that raw oatmeal does a much
better job of cleaning you. So mix some raw into the yogurt and eat it that
way.

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:35:27 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"John H." wrote in message
...


The people selling it have a letter in the window claiming to get 22mpg.
But, they also say they set the cruise control at 60mph and spend the day
in the right hand lane.

I wonder what you'd get if you did the same?
--
John H

It probably would, especially if it was lightly loaded (meaning no water
in the tanks, and half of the pots, pans and other "stuff" that Mrs.E. has
packed away in it.

Eisboch


Sounds very plausible. My diesel crewcab Chevy gets about 19 at 70 mph.
Only long trip, maybe 90 miles where I did 65 as that was the traffic flow,
I got about 20.5 mpg. Only problem I have heard about the Sprinters is that
a couple of the conversion companies were adding too much weight, and were
exceeding the manufacturers ratings.


I wonder if this: http://tinyurl.com/ypvqny might not be an example of what
you just said.
--
John H

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:35:27 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


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"John H." wrote in message
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The people selling it have a letter in the window claiming to get
22mpg.
But, they also say they set the cruise control at 60mph and spend the
day
in the right hand lane.

I wonder what you'd get if you did the same?
--
John H

It probably would, especially if it was lightly loaded (meaning no water
in the tanks, and half of the pots, pans and other "stuff" that Mrs.E.
has
packed away in it.

Eisboch


Sounds very plausible. My diesel crewcab Chevy gets about 19 at 70 mph.
Only long trip, maybe 90 miles where I did 65 as that was the traffic
flow,
I got about 20.5 mpg. Only problem I have heard about the Sprinters is
that
a couple of the conversion companies were adding too much weight, and were
exceeding the manufacturers ratings.


I wonder if this: http://tinyurl.com/ypvqny might not be an example of
what
you just said.
--
John H

That's the 3500 chassis with dual rear wheels. Much higher GVW.
The 2500 chassis (long wheelbase and high roof) has a 8500 lb GVW.

I'll go out and look at the load sticker in the Sprinter later. It has the
numbers in terms of maximum load permissible.

Eisboch

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On Jan 30, 8:02*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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I don't know that it is true, but the claim for oatmeal is that it absorbs
"cholesterol" or fat, anyway, and keeps some of it from getting into your
bloodstream. I like puffed wheat, too, but I don't believe it works as
oatmeal does. Have you tried any of the low-fat yogurt drinks?

I did, but I like the 60 calorie yogurt cups better. *When I remember to
stock up, I snack on them 3 or 4 times a day.

Eisboch

There is a new study out there that says that if you eat oatmeal and
have orange juice at the same time that it is like a double whammy in
a good sense:

http://health.yahoo.com/tips/how-to-...ge--18834.html

Every Sunday I make a big pot of oatmeal, simply because the REAL
oatmeal is much better for you than instant, then I put in in
individual containers to last through the week, put it in the fridge.
Microwave it with a little lowfat milk, and it comes right back to
life! Now I have OJ with it every morning.