On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:19:45 -0500, hk wrote:

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:15:52 -0500, BAR wrote:


The perjury was when he made false statements to a federal judge. He
was sanctioned and disbarred form the Supreme Court.

That wasn't perjury, it was contempt. I'll repeat, Clinton was never
convicted of perjury.


"disbarred form the Supreme Court."

snerk

And, technically, he was suspended for five years, at least in Arkansas.
I'm not sure if that qualifies as "disbarred".

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:09:23 -0000, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:13:06 -0500, JG2U wrote:


Uh, perjury and lying are not the same thing. Clinton was guilty of
one, but we was not guilty of the other.

You're correct, Einstein. One is lying in a court of law under oath,
the other is just lying.

And you're wrong, Clinton is guilty of both. Seems to be a pattern of
lying with the liberals, especially in this NG.

Cite? Before you tax yourself, in this country, you are innocent until
proven guilty. Clinton was *never* convicted of perjury.

President Clinton was held in contempt of court by judge Susan
D.Webber Wright for willfully failuring to truthfully testify under
oath.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

His license to practice law was suspended in Arkansas and later by the
United States Supreme Court. He was also fined $90,000 for giving
false testimony.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

The definition of perjury is:

Perjury: Law. The willful giving of false testimony under oath or
affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a
legal inquiry.

How exactly wasn't he convicted of perjury if his license to practice
law was revoked and he was fined for not telling the truth?

Come on - you are smarter than that.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:23:11 -0000, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:06:51 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


Linda Tripp

Not liked on either side of the aisle.

http://www.srmaxclass.org/JenniferFitzgerald_Bush.htm

Heh.

Man, I tell you what.

On second thought, no I won't. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:09:23 -0000, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:13:06 -0500, JG2U wrote:


Uh, perjury and lying are not the same thing. Clinton was guilty of
one, but we was not guilty of the other.
You're correct, Einstein. One is lying in a court of law under oath,
the other is just lying.

And you're wrong, Clinton is guilty of both. Seems to be a pattern of
lying with the liberals, especially in this NG.
Cite? Before you tax yourself, in this country, you are innocent until
proven guilty. Clinton was *never* convicted of perjury.

President Clinton was held in contempt of court by judge Susan
D.Webber Wright for willfully failuring to truthfully testify under
oath.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

His license to practice law was suspended in Arkansas and later by the
United States Supreme Court. He was also fined $90,000 for giving
false testimony.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

The definition of perjury is:

Perjury: Law. The willful giving of false testimony under oath or
affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a
legal inquiry.

How exactly wasn't he convicted of perjury if his license to practice
law was revoked and he was fined for not telling the truth?

Come on - you are smarter than that.


Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:01:49 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:38:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

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A question mark does not belong at the end of the sentence in the form
I
wrote it. No competent student of our native would disagree.

You asked how to write a question that was clearer. I suggested that
you should try ending questions with a question mark. I made no
comment other than that about your deficient writing skills.

What is a "student of our native"? LOL!

It's called a typo.

Now, onward:

Verson 1) I wonder if it's illegal for presidents to have sex with
anyone
they want, wherever they want.

Version 2) I wonder if it's illegal for presidents to have sex with
anyone
they want, wherever they want?

Are you telling me that YOU believe version 2 to be easier for you to
understand, the only difference being the presence of the question mark?

I'm beginning to believe the critics here who claim you are a severe
alcoholic.

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When my kids were younger I told them not to use that tone it sounded
rude, they insisted they did not mean to sound rude. Stay with me
here I told them that I did not care, it was my perception that they
sounded rude so as subordinates it was up to them to figure out what
it was they were doing and stop it anyway, until then they would be
grounded when I heard that tone. BTW, did not take them long to
figure it out. Iirc, till about the first friday night dance Pardon
the spelling, I hope you can thrash through on context.

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What "tone" are you referring to?


That's it. You're grounded. Now, when you figure it out, you can go out
again.

Oh, and keep off the computer in the meantime.
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John H

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:06:51 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:48:36 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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I wonder if it's illegal for presidents to have sex with anyone they
want, wherever they want.

I said ILLEGAL.


Of course not. But it *is* illegal to swear under oath that you did not
in a lawful investigation. It's called perjury.

Eisboch



Yes, I know perjury is illegal, but that's not the question I asked, now
is it? If you disagree, be a linguist for a moment and show me how I
could've written my question more clearly.


Your question is impossible to answer. First of all, you are leaving out a
whole bunch of contributing factors, including the stupid woman (forget her
name)

Linda Tripp

I met her at a party after all the notoriety. She is ugly as homemade soap,
and has the same disposition.
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John H

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:22:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:24:18 -0500, Kippered wrote:


Harry, it's not the sex. I know this is, for you, especially hard
to
understand. The guy *perjured* himself. That means lying. Believe
it
or
not, most folks consider that wrong. Of course, you and your buddy
find
nothing wrong with that because it gains you notoriety, and some
probably think it's right cool. But it isn't.

Uh, perjury and lying are not the same thing. Clinton was guilty
of
one, but we was not guilty of the other.

Don't you remember Bill pointing his finger at us and saying "I did
not
have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski!" Let's ask the wives if a
blow
job is sex or not before you parse Bill's answer.


I wonder if it's illegal for presidents to have sex with anyone they
want,
wherever they want.

I said ILLEGAL.


Yes, it IS illegal. A president can not have sex with anyone they
want, wherever they want. Period.

Do you think they can? If so, explain how.


I might be wrong, but I don't think it's illegal. You sound pretty sure
of
it, though. Do you recall where you heard or read that?

As far as my explaining "how", that's really a subject better discussed
with
your dad.


You *are* wrong. Anyone? OK, your ex-wife. Anywhere? Town Square
at noon. Illegal on two counts, rape (unless she's easy) and indecent
exposure.

Hell, you made the rules. You made it too easy.

Anyway, being pres does NOT let you have sex with anyone, anywhere you
choose. You know that. You've now been taught why. ;-)

Bye


You knew I meant "consenting adults", but you're now using that
technicality
to wiggle out of proving your legal theory. You also knew I meant that the
act would not happen in the place where it would be illegal for ANYONE.
You're also using that as an excuse to not prove your point.

I can't (and wouldn't want to) read your mind. I can't help that your
statement was poorly defined. My statement your original
statement stands as true.


Prove that it was illegal for Clinton to have sex with Lewinski. Do it
now.

Unless he coerced her, that was not illegal. Unethical, sleazy,
immoral, indicative of his moral values, proof of his lack of a moral
compass, proving him to ba a risk to national security, YES. Illegal,
no. It was the purgery that was illegal. But I never said otherwise.
You know that.




Great. We agree. It wasn't illegal. Now, you can agree that the fake saints
asked him the infamous question only for political gain. There were no
***SINCERE*** concerns about blackmail or national security. Only a child
pretends that the president cannot make a problem like that vanish.


He was questioned about his unethical, sleazy, and immoral activities. Or
is unethical behavior something that you don't believe can exist?
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John H

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:05:42 -0500, hk wrote:

Come on - you are smarter than that.

Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

It not about WHAT he lied about - it's that he LIED about it.

On Jan 26, 7:13*am, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:24:53 -0500, Kippered wrote:
Of which was he guilty? Wouldn't lying be a subset of perjury?

He was guilty of lying. *Perjury is a crime, and in this country, to be
guilty, one needs to be convicted. *Clinton was never convicted of
perjury. *

OJ was not convicted either...

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:58:45 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


How exactly wasn't he convicted of perjury if his license to practice
law was revoked and he was fined for not telling the truth?

Come on - you are smarter than that.

Perjury is a crime, and as such, is defined in statute, not a
dictionary. I'm not defending Clinton's moral character, just stating he
was not convicted of perjury.

Remember, we are talking lawyers he

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-clin...esperjury.html