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HK January 23rd 08 09:11 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
Study: False Statements Preceded War

By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL – 17 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations
found that President Bush and top administration officials issued
hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from
Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated
campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process,
led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the
study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that
the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat.

"The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of
intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.

The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found
that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and
administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions
that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or
obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass
destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles
Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism
staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush
administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous
information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in
military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the
administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney,
national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H.
Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul
Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott
McClellan.

Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study
found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida.

The center said the study was based on a database created with public
statements over the two years beginning on Sept. 11, 2001, and
information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles,
speeches and interviews.

"The cumulative effect of these false statements — amplified by
thousands of news stories and broadcasts — was massive, with the media
coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months
in the run-up to war," the study concluded.

"Some journalists — indeed, even some entire news organizations — have
since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was
far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding,
much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional,
'independent' validation of the Bush administration's false statements
about Iraq," it said.
On the Net:

* Center For Public Integrity:
http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx
* Fund For Independence in Journalism: http://www.tfij.org/

[email protected] January 23rd 08 09:25 PM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 


Air America sucks!

HK January 23rd 08 09:28 PM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 
wrote:

Air America sucks!



I'm sure you spend your time listening to Air America. When, in between
listening to Rush and Sean wishing they could ravage Coultergeist?

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 23rd 08 09:31 PM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 
wrote:

Air America sucks!


I have never listened to it, but I hear it is not doing well as far as
market share.


Short Wave Sportfishing January 23rd 08 09:36 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:


The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.

http://www.soros.org/about

Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!

[email protected] January 23rd 08 09:38 PM

More cut and paste bs from the DNC and George Soros..
 
On Jan 23, 4:36*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.

http://www.soros.org/about

Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!



Son of a gun...;)

Short Wave Sportfishing January 23rd 08 09:41 PM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:31:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:

Air America sucks!


I have never listened to it, but I hear it is not doing well as far as
market share.


It's not doing anything at any time anywhere.

Except for screwing a Boys and Girls Club out of $500K that is.

Even their theoritical "listener" base can't stand 'em.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 23rd 08 09:42 PM

More cut and paste bs from the DNC and George Soros..
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:38:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 23, 4:36*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.

http://www.soros.org/about

Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!


Son of a gun...;)


Amazing ain't it?

HK January 23rd 08 09:42 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.

http://www.soros.org/about

Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!




Wow...you shot the messenger!

[email protected] January 23rd 08 09:57 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Jan 23, 4:42*pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:


The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.


http://www.soros.org/about


Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!


Wow...you shot the messenger!


Deserves it..

[email protected] January 23rd 08 09:59 PM

More cut and paste BS from the DNC and George Soros..
 
On Jan 23, 4:57*pm, wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42*pm, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:


The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.


http://www.soros.org/about


Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!


Wow...you shot the messenger!


Deserves it..



HK January 23rd 08 09:59 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.
Follow the money.
http://www.soros.org/about
Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!

Wow...you shot the messenger!


Deserves it..



It's okay. The news story reads right on the money, and it will help
defeat your party's candidates this fall. All is good.

HK January 23rd 08 10:15 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
JimH wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.
Follow the money.
http://www.soros.org/about
Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!
Wow...you shot the messenger!
Deserves it..


It's okay. The news story reads right on the money, and it will help
defeat your party's candidates this fall. All is good.


Soros will die from an orgasmic heart attack if that happens.

I hope the Hillarity and Osama fight goes the full 12 rounds. They will
end up knocking each other out of the race.......leaving pretty hair boy.




Doubtful. Edwards is dead as a doornail, although I think he deserves to
win his home state. Don't think that is going to happen, though. It's
Obama, by the way.

[email protected] January 23rd 08 10:17 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Jan 23, 4:59*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.
Follow the money.
http://www.soros.org/about
Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!
Wow...you shot the messenger!


Deserves it..


It's okay. The news story reads right on the money, and it will help
defeat your party's candidates this fall. All is good.


It's probably bs.. but I have no time, takikng the kid up to ride the
horsies... Noticed the market was up, just a little today, also
noticed you seemed not to ;)

HK January 23rd 08 10:23 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:59 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.
Follow the money.
http://www.soros.org/about
Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!
Wow...you shot the messenger!
Deserves it..

It's okay. The news story reads right on the money, and it will help
defeat your party's candidates this fall. All is good.


It's probably bs.. but I have no time, takikng the kid up to ride the
horsies... Noticed the market was up, just a little today, also
noticed you seemed not to ;)



I don't follow "the market" closely. My interest is in how economic news
will negatively impact the GOP. Is there a way to state that more directly?

Salmon Bait January 23rd 08 11:30 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:

Study: False Statements Preceded War

Harry, as you well know, there is a big difference between statements which
turn out to be false, and intentionally false statements.

Bush made the former, you've made a tremendous amount of the latter.
--
Red Herring

Salmon Bait January 23rd 08 11:54 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:23:38 -0500, hk wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:59 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.
Follow the money.
http://www.soros.org/about
Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!
Wow...you shot the messenger!
Deserves it..
It's okay. The news story reads right on the money, and it will help
defeat your party's candidates this fall. All is good.


It's probably bs.. but I have no time, takikng the kid up to ride the
horsies... Noticed the market was up, just a little today, also
noticed you seemed not to ;)



I don't follow "the market" closely. .....


....unless it's going down and you can blame it on Bush.

What a crock of crap, Harry!

Oh well, some will think you're 'tres cool'.
--
Red Herring

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 24th 08 12:18 AM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
Salmon Bait wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:23:38 -0500, hk wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:59 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.
Follow the money.
http://www.soros.org/about
Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!
Wow...you shot the messenger!
Deserves it..
It's okay. The news story reads right on the money, and it will help
defeat your party's candidates this fall. All is good.
It's probably bs.. but I have no time, takikng the kid up to ride the
horsies... Noticed the market was up, just a little today, also
noticed you seemed not to ;)


I don't follow "the market" closely. .....


...unless it's going down and you can blame it on Bush.

What a crock of crap, Harry!

Oh well, some will think you're 'tres cool'.
--
Red Herring


Harry doesn't even understand how the market works, all his is able to
do is cut and paste an article about the stock market.


BAR January 24th 08 12:23 AM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 
hk wrote:
wrote:

Air America sucks!



I'm sure you spend your time listening to Air America. When, in between
listening to Rush and Sean wishing they could ravage Coultergeist?



IS Air America still on the air?


BAR January 24th 08 12:26 AM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk
wrote:
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for
Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in
Journalism.
Follow the money.
http://www.soros.org/about
Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!
Wow...you shot the messenger!
Deserves it..

It's okay. The news story reads right on the money, and it will help
defeat your party's candidates this fall. All is good.


Soros will die from an orgasmic heart attack if that happens.

I hope the Hillarity and Osama fight goes the full 12 rounds. They
will end up knocking each other out of the race.......leaving pretty
hair boy.



Doubtful. Edwards is dead as a doornail, although I think he deserves to
win his home state. Don't think that is going to happen, though. It's
Obama, by the way.


Why does he deserve to win South Carolina?

Why didn't he run for a second term in the Senate from his adopted state
, North Carolina?


Salmon Bait January 24th 08 12:37 AM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:23:53 -0500, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:

Air America sucks!



I'm sure you spend your time listening to Air America. When, in between
listening to Rush and Sean wishing they could ravage Coultergeist?



IS Air America still on the air?


They were on XM a few months ago. Don't know if they're still there. I
tried, honestly, to listen a little, but it soon becomes obvious why they
can't get any listeners. There's some stupid **** there, man.
--
Red Herring

[email protected] January 24th 08 12:44 AM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 
On Jan 23, 7:37*pm, Salmon Bait
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:23:53 -0500, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:


Air America sucks!


I'm sure you spend your time listening to Air America. When, in between
listening to Rush and Sean wishing they could ravage Coultergeist?


IS Air America still on the air?


They were on XM a few months ago. Don't know if they're still there. I
tried, honestly, to listen a little, but it soon becomes obvious why they
can't get any listeners. There's some stupid **** there, man.
--
Red Herring


I have listened a couple of times for the comedy value, but then I
have to read it here again as Harry regurgitates it, word for stupid
word.

Jim January 24th 08 01:25 AM

More . . . Here's the real problem
 
wrote:

Air America sucks!


Bitch all you like about whatever messenger you choose, but this is
ignoring the real problem.

Bush's pre war speeches contained many, uh, whatever you call it, those
speeches stretched things too far. It's really easy to listen to them
now and look back at what we have learned and let's face it, Bush was
lying to stir people up. He's still up to in. Look at his performance
in the middle east last week. We all just wanted him to shut up. But
no one said very much. Like he's the crazy uncle in the attic.

The majority of the people are not concerned about it. Lies and war
mongering are what we have come to expect.

Calif Bill January 24th 08 07:11 AM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 23, 7:37 pm, Salmon Bait
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:23:53 -0500, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:


Air America sucks!


I'm sure you spend your time listening to Air America. When, in between
listening to Rush and Sean wishing they could ravage Coultergeist?


IS Air America still on the air?


They were on XM a few months ago. Don't know if they're still there. I
tried, honestly, to listen a little, but it soon becomes obvious why they
can't get any listeners. There's some stupid **** there, man.
--
Red Herring


I have listened a couple of times for the comedy value, but then I
have to read it here again as Harry regurgitates it, word for stupid
word.

Yes, they still are on the air. Listened last week as I was traveling up to
Yuba City. Had to change station. Was just too stupid and boring.



[email protected] January 24th 08 10:53 AM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 
On Jan 24, 2:11*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 23, 7:37 pm, Salmon Bait
wrote:





On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:23:53 -0500, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:


Air America sucks!


I'm sure you spend your time listening to Air America. When, in between
listening to Rush and Sean wishing they could ravage Coultergeist?


IS Air America still on the air?


They were on XM a few months ago. Don't know if they're still there. I
tried, honestly, to listen a little, but it soon becomes obvious why they
can't get any listeners. There's some stupid **** there, man.
--
Red Herring


I have listened a couple of times for the comedy value, but then I
have to read it here again as Harry regurgitates it, word for stupid
word.

Yes, they still are on the air. *Listened last week as I was traveling up to
Yuba City. *Had to change station. *Was just too stupid and boring.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, that's because it's the same lies and corruption you hear every
day from the Democrats here. Boring and of course, mostly untrue..

[email protected] January 24th 08 01:17 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Jan 23, 4:36*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.

http://www.soros.org/about

Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!


Does that mean that the study was all lies? If so, disprove them.

[email protected] January 24th 08 01:18 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Jan 23, 4:57*pm, wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:42*pm, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:


The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.


http://www.soros.org/about


Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!


Wow...you shot the messenger!


Deserves it..


Yeah, anybody who would tell the truth about the Bush administration
should be shot.

[email protected] January 24th 08 01:50 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Jan 24, 8:17*am, wrote:
On Jan 23, 4:36*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:04 -0500, hk wrote:


The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public
Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


Follow the money.


http://www.soros.org/about


Son of a gun - how about that - he funds both!!


Does that mean that the study was all lies? If so, disprove them.


Don't be a joe...

Gene Kearns January 24th 08 02:00 PM

snerk Bush Admin: 935 Lies about Security Threats
 
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:15:14 -0500, hk penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

| I think he deserves to
|win his home state. Don't think that is going to happen, though.

It won't. We know him too well.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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Calif Bill January 24th 08 10:14 PM

More BS from the cut and paste left
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 24, 2:11 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 23, 7:37 pm, Salmon Bait
wrote:





On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:23:53 -0500, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:


Air America sucks!


I'm sure you spend your time listening to Air America. When, in
between
listening to Rush and Sean wishing they could ravage Coultergeist?


IS Air America still on the air?


They were on XM a few months ago. Don't know if they're still there. I
tried, honestly, to listen a little, but it soon becomes obvious why
they
can't get any listeners. There's some stupid **** there, man.
--
Red Herring


I have listened a couple of times for the comedy value, but then I
have to read it here again as Harry regurgitates it, word for stupid
word.

Yes, they still are on the air. Listened last week as I was traveling up
to
Yuba City. Had to change station. Was just too stupid and boring.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, that's because it's the same lies and corruption you hear every
day from the Democrats here. Boring and of course, mostly untrue..

Truth had nothing to do with it. Was just boring radio. One of the most
fun to listen to is Laura Ingraham. She gets on to non political subjects
where you will laugh out loud.




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