Hey Reggie...
 

You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

Hey Reggie...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

SWS,
It is raining now, but it will probably snow later today. The problem
with southern drivers and snow, goes beyond the fact they are
inexperienced driving on snow and the fact that the state does not have
the equipment to clear the roads. The snow in the south is normally a
very wet icy snow covering a sheet of ice. Forget about driving, it is
unsafe to walk on the stuff.

The last real blizzard we had in Atlanta (about 1983)they had news
coverage of cars stopped on the expressway. They were not moving at
all, yet they were slowly sliding off the expressway due to the crown of
the road.

I have spent a lot of time driving in upstate NY, and New England, and
their is no comparison between driving in your snow and our snow. When
you add inexperience southerners who very rarely drive in snow and
northern drivers who think they know how to drive on snow, you are in a
world of hurt.

Hey Reggie...
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

SWS,
It is raining now, but it will probably snow later today. The problem
with southern drivers and snow, goes beyond the fact they are
inexperienced driving on snow and the fact that the state does not have
the equipment to clear the roads. The snow in the south is normally a
very wet icy snow covering a sheet of ice. Forget about driving, it is
unsafe to walk on the stuff.

The last real blizzard we had in Atlanta (about 1983)they had news
coverage of cars stopped on the expressway. They were not moving at all,
yet they were slowly sliding off the expressway due to the crown of the
road.

I have spent a lot of time driving in upstate NY, and New England, and
their is no comparison between driving in your snow and our snow. When
you add inexperience southerners who very rarely drive in snow and
northern drivers who think they know how to drive on snow, you are in a
world of hurt.

Does not Wisconsin and Minnesota get the ice sheet rain followed with snow?
Driven on lots of that.

But point heard, even if you know how to drive it, have good tires (winter
or all seasons) and a 4x4 you need to ask, can the other guy drive it. Best
to park it in a safe place, stay home or stay put.

Hey Reggie...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

Nor Gore's electric bill.

Hey Reggie...
 

Canuck57 wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)
SWS,
It is raining now, but it will probably snow later today. The problem
with southern drivers and snow, goes beyond the fact they are
inexperienced driving on snow and the fact that the state does not have
the equipment to clear the roads. The snow in the south is normally a
very wet icy snow covering a sheet of ice. Forget about driving, it is
unsafe to walk on the stuff.

The last real blizzard we had in Atlanta (about 1983)they had news
coverage of cars stopped on the expressway. They were not moving at all,
yet they were slowly sliding off the expressway due to the crown of the
road.

I have spent a lot of time driving in upstate NY, and New England, and
their is no comparison between driving in your snow and our snow. When
you add inexperience southerners who very rarely drive in snow and
northern drivers who think they know how to drive on snow, you are in a
world of hurt.

Does not Wisconsin and Minnesota get the ice sheet rain followed with snow?
Driven on lots of that.

But point heard, even if you know how to drive it, have good tires (winter
or all seasons) and a 4x4 you need to ask, can the other guy drive it. Best
to park it in a safe place, stay home or stay put.



It is not uncommon to see videos of cars in the north driving on ice and
sliding into each other, completely out of control.

I don't think anyone can safely drive in this stuff:

http://tinyurl.com/23dnll

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=2

Hey Reggie...
 

On Jan 19, 8:15*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. *:)

We are going to get 3 or more inches today in the Atlanta area, it's
been raining, and there is a Arctic cold front ramming south, so the
scenario is the rain will freeze on the roadways, then it will snow on
top of that!

Hey Reggie...
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

SWS,
Feel free to forward this to your son, it might be a good Public Service
Announcement for those who are not familiar with driving in snow and ice:

Weather Underground has predicted that we could get snow this week. I
haven't driven in snow before, and since I didn't learn how to drive at
my Daddy or Mama's knee, I had to figure out what do do when driving in
winter conditions all on my own.

I'd thought I'd share my knowledge with you.

Burningbird's Guide to Driving on Ice and Snow
I figured out the worst hazard facing you when driving on ice is that
your tires will stick to the ice and your car will come to a complete
and unexpected stop. So the trick is not to let your tires stick to the ice.

When driving on ice, go as fast as you can. Not only will this decrease
the chances of your tires getting stuck to the road, the friction from
your quickly rotating tires will help melt the ice underneath you. Now
it may not look like this as you drive, but that's just because the ice
freezes up again once you're past. However, you can follow other cars as
closely as possible and benefit from their tire ice melt effect.

When you stop, stop suddenly. This allows your tires to build up heat in
front of them and that'll melt the ice, enabling you to come to a safe stop.

Same with going around corners — go as fast as you can, and try and jerk
the wheel as hard as possible. Doing this will cause your tires to
"bite" into the ice, and give you traction. If for some reason, though,
you do find yourself slipping when you turn a corner, brake and yank the
wheel, to get both a friction and a traction effect.

If you're driving in snow and you get stuck going up a hill, step on the
gas and spin the tires as hard as possible. This will build up a little
hill of snow behind your tires and give you the push you need to get
going — kind of like those things that runners brace against before a race.

If you come to a side street that hasn't been plowed yet and looks to
have considerable snow on it, don't worry! Your car is big and you'll be
able to break through that snow without any problems. After all, it's
only frozen water.

I know that some people say that you shouldn't drive at all in blizzard
conditions, but that's the best time of all to drive: no one else is on
the road!

If you do find a motorist that's ended up in the ditch, wrap a length of
chain around your fender and theirs and pull them out with your little
4-cylinder engine. If for some reason this fails, tell the driver of the
car to hold on to your bumper — you'll tow them into a station (Note
this doesn't work if the driver is wearing heels.)

If you do live in a wintery clime, build yourself a winter survival kit
— box of matches, can of Campbell's chicken noodle soup, and a chocolate
bar should do you.

http://burningbird.net/life/how-to-d...-ice-and-snow/

Hey Reggie...
 

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:48:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 19, 8:15*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. *:)

We are going to get 3 or more inches today in the Atlanta area, it's
been raining, and there is a Arctic cold front ramming south, so the
scenario is the rain will freeze on the roadways, then it will snow on
top of that!

Round up a bunch of bucket loaders and put the stuff in Lake Lanier!
--
Red Herring

Hey Reggie...
 

On Jan 19, 11:58*am, Red Herring
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:48:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 19, 8:15*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. *:)

We are going to get 3 or more inches today in the Atlanta area, it's
been raining, and there is a Arctic cold front ramming south, so the
scenario is the rain will freeze on the roadways, then it will snow on
top of that!

Round up a bunch of bucket loaders and put the stuff in Lake Lanier!
--
Red Herring

It'll get there, but not today or tonight. It's supposed to get down
to 18F tonight! It's snowing like mad right now!

Hey Reggie...
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message . ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

SWS,
Feel free to forward this to your son, it might be a good Public Service
Announcement for those who are not familiar with driving in snow and ice:

Weather Underground has predicted that we could get snow this week. I
haven't driven in snow before, and since I didn't learn how to drive at my
Daddy or Mama's knee, I had to figure out what do do when driving in
winter conditions all on my own.

I'd thought I'd share my knowledge with you.

Burningbird's Guide to Driving on Ice and Snow
I figured out the worst hazard facing you when driving on ice is that your
tires will stick to the ice and your car will come to a complete and
unexpected stop. So the trick is not to let your tires stick to the ice.

When driving on ice, go as fast as you can. Not only will this decrease
the chances of your tires getting stuck to the road, the friction from
your quickly rotating tires will help melt the ice underneath you. Now it
may not look like this as you drive, but that's just because the ice
freezes up again once you're past. However, you can follow other cars as
closely as possible and benefit from their tire ice melt effect.

When you stop, stop suddenly. This allows your tires to build up heat in
front of them and that'll melt the ice, enabling you to come to a safe
stop.

Same with going around corners — go as fast as you can, and try and jerk
the wheel as hard as possible. Doing this will cause your tires to "bite"
into the ice, and give you traction. If for some reason, though, you do
find yourself slipping when you turn a corner, brake and yank the wheel,
to get both a friction and a traction effect.

If you're driving in snow and you get stuck going up a hill, step on the
gas and spin the tires as hard as possible. This will build up a little
hill of snow behind your tires and give you the push you need to get
going — kind of like those things that runners brace against before a
race.

If you come to a side street that hasn't been plowed yet and looks to have
considerable snow on it, don't worry! Your car is big and you'll be able
to break through that snow without any problems. After all, it's only
frozen water.

I know that some people say that you shouldn't drive at all in blizzard
conditions, but that's the best time of all to drive: no one else is on
the road!

If you do find a motorist that's ended up in the ditch, wrap a length of
chain around your fender and theirs and pull them out with your little
4-cylinder engine. If for some reason this fails, tell the driver of the
car to hold on to your bumper — you'll tow them into a station (Note this
doesn't work if the driver is wearing heels.)

If you do live in a wintery clime, build yourself a winter survival kit —
box of matches, can of Campbell's chicken noodle soup, and a chocolate bar
should do you.

http://burningbird.net/life/how-to-d...-ice-and-snow/

Nice satire.

Where I am from, if you refuse to learn/drive on snow you will not get to my
home for 4 months a year.

You forgot a candle, heats the snow in the tin. Try drinking snow.

Hey Reggie...
 

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:31:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:



It is not uncommon to see videos of cars in the north driving on ice and
sliding into each other, completely out of control.

I don't think anyone can safely drive in this stuff:

No difference in drivers. Driving in normal snow is pretty much like
driving in gravel. Once ice is under your tires, don't matter where
you're from. Up here they get the salt spread quickly, and that's the
difference.

--Vic

Hey Reggie...
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Canuck57 wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)
SWS,
It is raining now, but it will probably snow later today. The problem
with southern drivers and snow, goes beyond the fact they are
inexperienced driving on snow and the fact that the state does not have
the equipment to clear the roads. The snow in the south is normally a
very wet icy snow covering a sheet of ice. Forget about driving, it is
unsafe to walk on the stuff.

The last real blizzard we had in Atlanta (about 1983)they had news
coverage of cars stopped on the expressway. They were not moving at
all, yet they were slowly sliding off the expressway due to the crown of
the road.

I have spent a lot of time driving in upstate NY, and New England, and
their is no comparison between driving in your snow and our snow. When
you add inexperience southerners who very rarely drive in snow and
northern drivers who think they know how to drive on snow, you are in a
world of hurt.

Does not Wisconsin and Minnesota get the ice sheet rain followed with
snow? Driven on lots of that.

But point heard, even if you know how to drive it, have good tires
(winter or all seasons) and a 4x4 you need to ask, can the other guy
drive it. Best to park it in a safe place, stay home or stay put.

It is not uncommon to see videos of cars in the north driving on ice and
sliding into each other, completely out of control.

I don't think anyone can safely drive in this stuff:

http://tinyurl.com/23dnll

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=2

Yep, that video is a hoot to watch!

Here is another, note how they lock their wheels, probably bald summer
radials and of all things bail out onto the road! Lucky no one rolled over
them.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BM2gLjfE_3Y

Hey Reggie...
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news:wLnkj.104414$EA5.99044@pd7urf2no...

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

SWS,
It is raining now, but it will probably snow later today. The problem
with southern drivers and snow, goes beyond the fact they are
inexperienced driving on snow and the fact that the state does not have
the equipment to clear the roads. The snow in the south is normally a
very wet icy snow covering a sheet of ice. Forget about driving, it is
unsafe to walk on the stuff.

The last real blizzard we had in Atlanta (about 1983)they had news
coverage of cars stopped on the expressway. They were not moving at all,
yet they were slowly sliding off the expressway due to the crown of the
road.

I have spent a lot of time driving in upstate NY, and New England, and
their is no comparison between driving in your snow and our snow. When
you add inexperience southerners who very rarely drive in snow and
northern drivers who think they know how to drive on snow, you are in a
world of hurt.

Does not Wisconsin and Minnesota get the ice sheet rain followed with
snow? Driven on lots of that.

But point heard, even if you know how to drive it, have good tires (winter
or all seasons) and a 4x4 you need to ask, can the other guy drive it.
Best to park it in a safe place, stay home or stay put.


worse thing about snow is mini truck 4x4 drivers. They all think they can
drive just like dry pavement because of the 4x4. Years ago, I-80 over the
sierras rarely closed. Gets closed a lot now as the chain control in effect
signs say the speed limit is 25. The import 4x4's go 70 and cause
horrendous crashes. so when it is bad and if you slowed down with chains or
4x4 and snow tires, all would be ok, they just close the highway now.

Hey Reggie...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

I had the camper and was up near Sacramento last night. About slid on my
tush on a ramp as was covered with ice. Boat cover has some ice also. Went
to the Sacramento Sport show today. Yesterday went boating and fishing. No
bass, and the bass guys were pretty much showing zeros also. Did troll the
lake for trout and king salmon. A lot of 12" salmon in Lake Oroville.
Caught and released a few, kept one for dinner that was motally hooked.
Took the boat up for some work estimate. Bad chine. Last time I crushed it
on a gravel bar, they welded on a new one crooked. Boat pulls to the left.
Was going to fish the Feather River for Steelhead but river dropped about 6'
in 3 days. Lake Oroville is down about 200', using the low water ramp,
which is to the side of one of the 12 lane ramps. The nice 12 lane stops
about 15' above water level. Still 400' of water in the lake, just smaller
surface area.

Hey Reggie...