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have lost touch with America, read this.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. You're worried about the food in the cafeteria? |
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On Jan 15, 11:44*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. Yeah, what in hell were they thinking, getting rid of the chemical laced processed foods, giving them fresh fruit instead of horse-hoof jello, and decent seafood? |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:44:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. Sounds like Al Gore is getting into the restaurant business. -- John H |
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On Jan 15, 8:44�am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. ???? I suspect you may not have read the entire article as carefully as you normally would do. House members *pay* for their own lunches. This isn't a public expense. Furthermore, (from the article itself): "House officials explained that the fresher and more varied foods were indeed more expensive but that they had tried to preserve low-cost alternatives such as pizza, sandwiches and prepared salads, which remain around the same price." So any Democrat or Republican House members who think that a 1000 calorie slice of pepperoni, fat and cheese and a 700 calorie glass of fizzing sugar water (combo priced at $4.50) is a better idea at lunch time than the seasonal veggie plate and a serving of fresh-squeezed juice (at $5.75) are still in business. I'm not sure how offering greater opportunity for personal choice represents a "loss of touch" with America. To me, a loss of touch with America would be: "On the menu today is split pea soup. Your choices are small, medium, or large portions of split pea soup. You will eat it. You will like it. Any complaints about the split pea soup will be heard in the 'free speech zone', eight blocks from the cafeteria." :-) |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 8:44?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. ???? I suspect you may not have read the entire article as carefully as you normally would do. House members *pay* for their own lunches. This isn't a public expense. Furthermore, (from the article itself): "House officials explained that the fresher and more varied foods were indeed more expensive but that they had tried to preserve low-cost alternatives such as pizza, sandwiches and prepared salads, which remain around the same price." So any Democrat or Republican House members who think that a 1000 calorie slice of pepperoni, fat and cheese and a 700 calorie glass of fizzing sugar water (combo priced at $4.50) is a better idea at lunch time than the seasonal veggie plate and a serving of fresh-squeezed juice (at $5.75) are still in business. I'm not sure how offering greater opportunity for personal choice represents a "loss of touch" with America. To me, a loss of touch with America would be: "On the menu today is split pea soup. Your choices are small, medium, or large portions of split pea soup. You will eat it. You will like it. Any complaints about the split pea soup will be heard in the 'free speech zone', eight blocks from the cafeteria." :-) Well, at least Pelosi can claim she got *something* on her agenda accomplished. Eisboch |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 8:44?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. ???? I suspect you may not have read the entire article as carefully as you normally would do. House members *pay* for their own lunches. This isn't a public expense. Furthermore, (from the article itself): "House officials explained that the fresher and more varied foods were indeed more expensive but that they had tried to preserve low-cost alternatives such as pizza, sandwiches and prepared salads, which remain around the same price." So any Democrat or Republican House members who think that a 1000 calorie slice of pepperoni, fat and cheese and a 700 calorie glass of fizzing sugar water (combo priced at $4.50) is a better idea at lunch time than the seasonal veggie plate and a serving of fresh-squeezed juice (at $5.75) are still in business. I'm not sure how offering greater opportunity for personal choice represents a "loss of touch" with America. To me, a loss of touch with America would be: "On the menu today is split pea soup. Your choices are small, medium, or large portions of split pea soup. You will eat it. You will like it. Any complaints about the split pea soup will be heard in the 'free speech zone', eight blocks from the cafeteria." :-) Well, at least Pelosi can claim she got *something* on her agenda accomplished. Eisboch The food in the house dining room was better when Tip was Speaker. |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:05:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
I'm not sure how offering greater opportunity for personal choice represents a "loss of touch" with America. To me, a loss of touch with America would be: "On the menu today is split pea soup. Your choices are small, medium, or large portions of split pea soup. You will eat it. You will like it. Any complaints about the split pea soup will be heard in the 'free speech zone', eight blocks from the cafeteria." :-) You raise some good points. It just annoys me that legislators get subsidized healthy food while the average schmuck on lunch break get's over priced Burger King. Well, at least Pelosi can claim she got *something* on her agenda accomplished. LOL!! 10-4. |
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 8:44?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. ???? I suspect you may not have read the entire article as carefully as you normally would do. House members *pay* for their own lunches. This isn't a public expense. Furthermore, (from the article itself): "House officials explained that the fresher and more varied foods were indeed more expensive but that they had tried to preserve low-cost alternatives such as pizza, sandwiches and prepared salads, which remain around the same price." So any Democrat or Republican House members who think that a 1000 calorie slice of pepperoni, fat and cheese and a 700 calorie glass of fizzing sugar water (combo priced at $4.50) is a better idea at lunch time than the seasonal veggie plate and a serving of fresh-squeezed juice (at $5.75) are still in business. I'm not sure how offering greater opportunity for personal choice represents a "loss of touch" with America. To me, a loss of touch with America would be: "On the menu today is split pea soup. Your choices are small, medium, or large portions of split pea soup. You will eat it. You will like it. Any complaints about the split pea soup will be heard in the 'free speech zone', eight blocks from the cafeteria." :-) Well, at least Pelosi can claim she got *something* on her agenda accomplished. Eisboch The food in the house dining room was better when Tip was Speaker. Tip did it well, but I thought Newt was a tad bit better. |
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HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. You're worried about the food in the cafeteria? The question is why is Nancey Pelosi worried about the food in the cafeteria? I guess that is the only thing she can get accomplished as Speaker of the House. |
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Eisboch wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 8:44?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. ???? I suspect you may not have read the entire article as carefully as you normally would do. House members *pay* for their own lunches. This isn't a public expense. Furthermore, (from the article itself): "House officials explained that the fresher and more varied foods were indeed more expensive but that they had tried to preserve low-cost alternatives such as pizza, sandwiches and prepared salads, which remain around the same price." So any Democrat or Republican House members who think that a 1000 calorie slice of pepperoni, fat and cheese and a 700 calorie glass of fizzing sugar water (combo priced at $4.50) is a better idea at lunch time than the seasonal veggie plate and a serving of fresh-squeezed juice (at $5.75) are still in business. I'm not sure how offering greater opportunity for personal choice represents a "loss of touch" with America. To me, a loss of touch with America would be: "On the menu today is split pea soup. Your choices are small, medium, or large portions of split pea soup. You will eat it. You will like it. Any complaints about the split pea soup will be heard in the 'free speech zone', eight blocks from the cafeteria." :-) Well, at least Pelosi can claim she got *something* on her agenda accomplished. Eisboch The food in the house dining room was better when Tip was Speaker. Did they server beer back then? |
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ROFLOL! Dude, you just don't get it. It's not TOM that's worried about the
food in the cafeteria... it's our elected representatives that are! Shouldn't *THEY* be channeling their energy into something more productive? I certainly don't benefit from brie cheese in the reps caf... neither do our troops in Iraq. --Mike "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. You're worried about the food in the cafeteria? |
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HK misses the point, once again.
Naaa... he didn't miss anything... just trying to spin and mis-direct. He's a master at that. --Mike "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:52:35 -0500, BAR wrote: HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. You're worried about the food in the cafeteria? The question is why is Nancey Pelosi worried about the food in the cafeteria? I guess that is the only thing she can get accomplished as Speaker of the House. HK misses the point, once again. |
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... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. |
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On Jan 16, 9:09*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. "Every observer"?? You are dilusional.. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. And now Joe, if you can focus long enough to answer a question. Tell us what it is then that has led to no attacks? I won't hold my breath. |
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... On Jan 16, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. "Every observer"?? You are dilusional.. ===================== Yes. Every observer. The only people who don't attribute it to something are the ones who aren't observing. And, what is "dilusional"? What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. And now Joe, if you can focus long enough to answer a question. Tell us what it is then that has led to no attacks? I won't hold my breath. ======================= I didn't ask you. Let's wait and see what Bertie thinks. He's so smart. He must have some specific ideas about why there have been no attacks. |
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... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. You're absolutely right. But, Bert's answer to my question is still a crucial missing piece in this discussion. |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. You're absolutely right. But, Bert's answer to my question is still a crucial missing piece in this discussion. You expect coherent thought from "I've got mine, so screw you" Bert? The guy is a cipher, incapable of spewing out anything but the effluent on reich-wing radio, "Faux" new, or the NY Post. But I do admire your patience. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. You're absolutely right. But, Bert's answer to my question is still a crucial missing piece in this discussion. You expect coherent thought from "I've got mine, so screw you" Bert? The guy is a cipher, incapable of spewing out anything but the effluent on reich-wing radio, "Faux" new, or the NY Post. But I do admire your patience. When you are constantly setting traps, patience is a virtue. Most of the folks here are on to him though. |
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. .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked? |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 1. Because he believes Bush can do no wrong because he's a Republican 2. Rush said so 3. Hannity said so. |
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... On Jan 16, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 1. Because he believes Bush can do no wrong because he's a Republican 2. Rush said so 3. Hannity said so. ======================= Actually, there *were* some measures that may have prevented the attacks, but I need to know which ones Bert is referring to. |
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... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked? According to You and Harry, 9/11 happened because of Bush as hit happened on his watch. Conversely, since no attacks on US soil have succeeded durings Bush's watch since 9/11. Bush is the reason we have been safe. Fill in your rant he |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:14:53 -0500, BAR wrote: wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. The notion of a "war on terror" is laughable. I have news for you. You can't possibly win it by use of force. Probably the only way to win is via force. Extreme Force. If a family sends one of their own as an attacker, kill the complete family. May not be PC, but the message will get through very quickly. |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked? According to You and Harry, 9/11 happened because of Bush as hit happened on his watch. Conversely, since no attacks on US soil have succeeded durings Bush's watch since 9/11. Bush is the reason we have been safe. Fill in your rant he You're not making any sense because you're not trying. Attacks were not prevented by the attack on two buildings in Manhattan. Feel free to keep trying. |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked? According to You and Harry, 9/11 happened because of Bush as hit happened on his watch. Conversely, since no attacks on US soil have succeeded durings Bush's watch since 9/11. Bush is the reason we have been safe. Fill in your rant he And by the way, I never said 9/11 happened because of Bush. If you disagree, please find one example which proves your point. Copy & paste the text in your next response. Good luck. |
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:54:00 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked? According to You and Harry, 9/11 happened because of Bush as hit happened on his watch. Conversely, since no attacks on US soil have succeeded durings Bush's watch since 9/11. Bush is the reason we have been safe. Fill in your rant he They can easily counter that argument, to wit: 9/11 was Clinton's fault. Hah! You lost that one. -- John H |
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:55:56 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote: Probably the only way to win is via force. Extreme Force. If a family sends one of their own as an attacker, kill the complete family. May not be PC, but the message will get through very quickly. Worked for the Russians in Lebanon. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? People just like you. Do have an opinion, or are you completely without any thoughts at all about why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? People just like you. Do have an opinion, or are you completely without any thoughts at all about why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11? Yes I have an opinion but I surely wouldn't post it here and be ridiculed by the likes of you. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:54:00 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the US by followers of Islam. This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked? According to You and Harry, 9/11 happened because of Bush as hit happened on his watch. Conversely, since no attacks on US soil have succeeded durings Bush's watch since 9/11. Bush is the reason we have been safe. Fill in your rant he They can easily counter that argument, to wit: 9/11 was Clinton's fault. Hah! You lost that one. -- John H Most likely. But there were a lot of people here claiming 9/11 was Bush's fault as he had the watch. |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? People just like you. Do have an opinion, or are you completely without any thoughts at all about why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11? Yes I have an opinion but I surely wouldn't post it here and be ridiculed by the likes of you. I promise I won't ridicule you when you post your thoughts on why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11. Let's do this a step at a time. In your opinion, is there more than one reason? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? People just like you. Do have an opinion, or are you completely without any thoughts at all about why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11? Yes I have an opinion but I surely wouldn't post it here and be ridiculed by the likes of you. I promise I won't ridicule you when you post your thoughts on why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11. Let's do this a step at a time. In your opinion, is there more than one reason? Sorry, not getting sucked in to provide entertainment for you. |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? People just like you. Do have an opinion, or are you completely without any thoughts at all about why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11? Yes I have an opinion but I surely wouldn't post it here and be ridiculed by the likes of you. I promise I won't ridicule you when you post your thoughts on why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11. Let's do this a step at a time. In your opinion, is there more than one reason? Sorry, not getting sucked in to provide entertainment for you. If you think I'd ridicule your reasons, then your reasons must be worthy of ridicule. You pretty much said so yourself. Actually, there are a few reasons we haven't been attacked. Only one of them is truly worthy of ridicule. We'll discuss this after Bertie chimes in later. |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message om... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message m... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? People just like you. Do have an opinion, or are you completely without any thoughts at all about why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11? Yes I have an opinion but I surely wouldn't post it here and be ridiculed by the likes of you. I promise There is a laugh.. as you are known for your honesty and willingness to keep bargains/pay bets..;) I won't ridicule you when you post your thoughts Of course you will, it is all you have, these little "victories". You should try Halo 3, if you think you could keep up with the kids... on why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11. Let's do this a step at a time. In your opinion, is there more than one reason? Why don't you just frekin' educate us on what latest politically expedient reasoning is..? Joe, since you are sooooo smart;( |
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... On Jan 16, 4:33 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message om... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "WaIIy" wrote in message m... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What a stupid statement. OK - maybe you're right. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? I've spoken at length to 5 observers. They each attribute the lack of attacks to a different aspect of our efforts against terrorists. Why do you think it's a stupid statement? What/who are observers? People just like you. Do have an opinion, or are you completely without any thoughts at all about why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11? Yes I have an opinion but I surely wouldn't post it here and be ridiculed by the likes of you. I promise There is a laugh.. as you are known for your honesty and willingness to keep bargains/pay bets..;) I won't ridicule you when you post your thoughts Of course you will, it is all you have, these little "victories". You should try Halo 3, if you think you could keep up with the kids... on why we haven't been attacked here since 9/11. Let's do this a step at a time. In your opinion, is there more than one reason? Why don't you just frekin' educate us on what latest politically expedient reasoning is..? Joe, since you are sooooo smart;( ================= Sounds like you ladies are deathly afraid of expressing your opinions. Why is that? Are you so afraid of someone disagreeing with you? Pansies & puppies, all of you. Let's see if Bertie can explain why we haven't been attacked in the U.S. since 9/11. I suppose he'll be along later. |
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... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:55:56 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:14:53 -0500, BAR wrote: wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: have lost touch with America, read this. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html Unbelievable. The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture, secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales, no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health insurance, incredible national debt. And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam. Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil. The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists. The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight the war on terrorism with paper. The notion of a "war on terror" is laughable. I have news for you. You can't possibly win it by use of force. Probably the only way to win is via force. Extreme Force. If a family sends one of their own as an attacker, kill the complete family. May not be PC, but the message will get through very quickly. That will never accomplish anything other than to create more terrorists. I really don't think you understand the situation at all. Really. He knows what he's been told to think. Isn't that good enough? |
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