Anybody see anything odd...
 

about this picture from the New York Times in an article about the
race card being played in the Democratic primary in Nevada?

http://www.swsports.org/images/obama-reno533.jpg

Keep in mind, the NYT is strongly in Clinton's camp.

Anybody see anything odd...
 

On Jan 14, 5:31�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
about this picture from the New York Times in an article about the
race card being played in the Democratic primary in Nevada?

http://www.swsports.org/images/obama-reno533.jpg

Keep in mind, the NYT is strongly in Clinton's camp.

You mean besides the fact that he's surrounded by middle aged white
women who haven't been that publicly orgasmic since the Beatles tour
of 1964? The gal with the wide open mouth appears at first to be
yelling at Obama, but a closer look shows her wearing an Obama button.
Some powerful propaganda at work, sending a variety of messages, (most
of them not all that helpful to Barack).

How's the boat show going? Still on, or over? How was the turnout?
Did your friend sell any boats?

Anybody see anything odd...
 

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:49:53 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jan 14, 5:31?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
about this picture from the New York Times in an article about the
race card being played in the Democratic primary in Nevada?

http://www.swsports.org/images/obama-reno533.jpg

Keep in mind, the NYT is strongly in Clinton's camp.

You mean besides the fact that he's surrounded by middle aged white
women who haven't been that publicly orgasmic since the Beatles tour
of 1964? The gal with the wide open mouth appears at first to be
yelling at Obama, but a closer look shows her wearing an Obama button.
Some powerful propaganda at work, sending a variety of messages, (most
of them not all that helpful to Barack).

Got it in one Chuck.

You know, I saw that when I was perusing the NYT a few minutes ago and
the first thing that came to mind was "Blazing Saddles" and Cleavon
Little's line "Where 'da white women at?"

Shameful of me I know, but I've got to believe that was it's intended
effect. Or one of them anyway. :)

How's the boat show going? Still on, or over? How was the turnout?
Did your friend sell any boats?

Oh yeah - still on. Not a lot of traffic from what I have heard -
either Saturday or Sunday - today was a bust because of the storm.

As to selling boats, don't know. I'm on for Thursday and Saturday -
I'll let you know.

I don't know if you read though my "review", but I talked to a friend
who went to the New York show and he said it wasn't much - no traffic,
few real sales - a few tire kickers showing interest. I understand
the Providence was was even worse - exhibitors standing around
mumbling to themselves and attendance was horrible.

When does your boat show season crank up?

Anybody see anything odd...
 

On Jan 14, 5:59�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:49:53 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Jan 14, 5:31?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
about this picture from the New York Times in an article about the
race card being played in the Democratic primary in Nevada?

http://www.swsports.org/images/obama-reno533.jpg

Keep in mind, the NYT is strongly in Clinton's camp.

You mean besides the fact that he's surrounded by middle aged white
women who haven't been that publicly orgasmic since the Beatles tour
of 1964? The gal with the wide open mouth appears at first to be
yelling at Obama, but a closer look shows her wearing an Obama button.
Some powerful propaganda at work, sending a variety of messages, (most
of them not all that helpful to Barack).

Got it in one Chuck.

You know, I saw that when I was perusing the NYT a few minutes ago and
the first thing that came to mind was "Blazing Saddles" and Cleavon
Little's line "Where 'da white women at?"

Shameful of me I know, but I've got to believe that was it's intended
effect. �Or one of them anyway. �:)

How's the boat show going? Still on, or over? How was the turnout?
Did your friend sell any boats?

Oh yeah - still on. �Not a lot of traffic from what I have heard -
either Saturday or Sunday - today was a bust because of the storm.

As to selling boats, don't know. �I'm on for Thursday and Saturday -
I'll let you know.

I don't know if you read though my "review", but I talked to a friend
who went to the New York show and he said it wasn't much - no traffic,
few real sales - a few tire kickers showing interest. �I understand
the Providence was was even worse - exhibitors standing around
mumbling to themselves and attendance was horrible.

When does your boat show season crank up?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Our show starts January 24 and runs through February 2. I'm on the B
shift. B there when it opens, and B there still when it closes.
I'm scheduled for six seminars on three different topics, and will be
putting in some hours manning the RBAW booth as well holding down the
fort in my publisher's display. (RBAW: Recreational Boating
Association of Washington. Basically a pro-boat lobbying organization
and educational group).

The local trade group claims that with the indoor and outdoor venues
combined the Seattle show is the largest on the West Coast. Most years
there are 80,000 or so through the gate at the indoor show and about
20,000 at the outdoor show. The outdoor show is very weather
dependent, of course, and also has to close about 5 PM every day
because it gets too dark for the public to walk safely around the
docks.

My favorite boat show in this neck of the woods is a floating show
staged by the Anacortes Yacht Brokers twice a year. Usually about 70
boats, no non-broker vendors (of any kind), and some of the boats have
"mere" 5-figure price tags. It's a fun, slow paced, relaxed and
friendly shopping experience.

One of the problems with the big shows is that unless you're shopping
for a trailer boat there is almost nothing shown for less than
$250,000- even used. It costs such an enormous amount of money to put
a boat in the show that brokers tend to feature vessels where there is
a serious commission to be earned. It costs the same to display a
$79,000 36-foot 1983 Tollycraft ($8000 commission) or a $479,000 36-
foot 1997 Grand Banks ($48,000 commission), so you can't really blame
the brokers; but I think it sends the wrong message to folks who are
just beginning to consider taking up boating as a pastime.

Folks who want to go boating will certainly need some disposable
income to play with, but plenty of peoplewho aren't independently
wealthy and who don't have hundreds of thousands invested in a boat
have a safe and wonderful time on the water.

Anybody see anything odd...
 

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:35:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

My favorite boat show in this neck of the woods is a floating show
staged by the Anacortes Yacht Brokers twice a year. Usually about 70
boats, no non-broker vendors (of any kind), and some of the boats have
"mere" 5-figure price tags. It's a fun, slow paced, relaxed and
friendly shopping experience.

We have one of those down at Clinton Harbor every Fall. I agree - lots
of smaller boats in the water and quite a few brokered used boats in
the water. It's pretty slow paced and actually relaxing because
nobody beats you up if you want to board.

One of the problems with the big shows is that unless you're shopping
for a trailer boat there is almost nothing shown for less than
$250,000- even used. It costs such an enormous amount of money to put
a boat in the show that brokers tend to feature vessels where there is
a serious commission to be earned. It costs the same to display a
$79,000 36-foot 1983 Tollycraft ($8000 commission) or a $479,000 36-
foot 1997 Grand Banks ($48,000 commission), so you can't really blame
the brokers; but I think it sends the wrong message to folks who are
just beginning to consider taking up boating as a pastime.

Just the cost of the display area shocked me. There were three
marinas in the one I'm working for/with/attached to and four brands -
Contender, Wellcraft, Starcraft and Larson. $65K for the space and
around an additional $11K for carpet (required) and electrical
service.

Ay che mama.. :)

Folks who want to go boating will certainly need some disposable
income to play with, but plenty of peoplewho aren't independently
wealthy and who don't have hundreds of thousands invested in a boat
have a safe and wonderful time on the water

I have this idea that I might discuss with you (and a couple of others
here who are business oriented) shortly to address this very thing.

I still need to think it through.

While I have you here, is Tollycraft still in business? I saw a 36'
diesel Tollycraft for sale the other day in Niantic - I didn't know
they made diesel boats - I think it was an 80/81 maybe? In good shape
according to the ad.

I've always liked the Tollycraft boats.

Anybody see anything odd...
 

On Jan 14, 6:47�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:35:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
My favorite boat show in this neck of the woods is a floating show
staged by the Anacortes Yacht Brokers twice a year. Usually about 70
boats, no non-broker vendors (of any kind), and some of the boats have
"mere" 5-figure price tags. It's a fun, slow paced, relaxed and
friendly shopping experience.

We have one of those down at Clinton Harbor every Fall. I agree - lots
of smaller boats in the water and quite a few brokered used boats in
the water. �It's pretty slow paced and actually relaxing because
nobody beats you up if you want to board.

One of the problems with the big shows is that unless you're shopping
for a trailer boat there is almost nothing shown for less than
$250,000- even used. It costs such an enormous amount of money to put
a boat in the show that brokers tend to feature vessels where there is
a serious commission to be earned. It costs the same to display a
$79,000 36-foot 1983 Tollycraft ($8000 commission) or a $479,000 36-
foot 1997 Grand Banks ($48,000 commission), so you can't really blame
the brokers; but I think it sends the wrong message to folks who are
just beginning to consider taking up boating as a pastime.

Just the cost of the display area shocked me. �There were three
marinas in the one I'm working for/with/attached to and four brands -
Contender, Wellcraft, Starcraft and Larson. �$65K for the space and
around an additional $11K for carpet (required) and electrical
service.

Ay che mama.. �:)

Folks who want to go boating will certainly need some disposable
income to play with, but plenty of peoplewho aren't independently
wealthy and who don't have hundreds of thousands invested in a boat
have a safe and wonderful time on the water

I have this idea that I might discuss with you (and a couple of others
here who are business oriented) shortly to address this very thing.

I still need to think it through.

While I have you here, is Tollycraft still in business? �I saw a 36'
diesel Tollycraft for sale the other day in Niantic - I didn't know
they made diesel boats - I think it was an 80/81 maybe? �In good shape
according to the ad.

I've always liked the Tollycraft boats.

Tollycraft went bankrupt in the mid to late 90's. They built a very
good boat for many years- but unfortunately it takes a lot more to
survive long term in the boat business than merely building a good
product.
The Tollycraft factory in Kelso, WA closed and there are rumors of
molds scattered around the country in the hands of folks who want to
"revive" various Tollycraft models. One group laid up a few 45-50 plus
foot hulls down in Mexico, but the name escapes me at the moment and I
don't know if they are still functioning.

The used boats remain very popular in the Pacific NW.