Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I was surprised at the lack of attendees - there wasn't a point during
the day that I would call it "crowded" - plenty of room to move around
and look over, under and around boats.

Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence? Could
it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?


Probably more the 14 inches of global warming predicted for this weekend and
Monday. :-)

Eisboch




Not unless Yankees have gotten soft since I lived there.

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I was surprised at the lack of attendees - there wasn't a point during
the day that I would call it "crowded" - plenty of room to move around
and look over, under and around boats.

Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence?
Could it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?


Probably more the 14 inches of global warming predicted for this weekend
and Monday. :-)

Eisboch


Not unless Yankees have gotten soft since I lived there.

Not soft. Just getting older.

Eisboch

On Jan 13, 10:09*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 9:58 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 9:46 am, HK wrote:
I was surprised at the lack of attendees - there wasn't a point during
the day that I would call it "crowded" - plenty of room to move around
and look over, under and around boats.
Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence?
Could it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?
The price of fuel.
Could be this:

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCERhttp://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/347046_erbe13.html

Bush tanked the U.S. economy

Last updated January 11, 2008 5:01 p.m. PT

By BONNIE ERBE
GUEST COLUMNIST

Recession, like menopause, is a retrospective diagnosis.

What??? * *Pffffftttt. * The Intelligencer?? * Bonnie Erbe??
MENOPAUSE?.. you got to be kidding me. If I have to read such dribble
to become informed, *I will just stay simple and happy...

Right over your head. No surprise.

No, I don't read cut and paste, block form insult, op ed's by snot
nosed political hacks.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:46:45 -0500, HK wrote:



Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence?
Could it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?

The thought of Hillary.
--
John H

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:58:58 -0500, HK cut and
pasted another bogus article.

It's the thought of Hillary.
--
John H

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I was surprised at the lack of attendees - there wasn't a point during
the day that I would call it "crowded" - plenty of room to move around
and look over, under and around boats.
Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence?
Could it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?

Probably more the 14 inches of global warming predicted for this weekend
and Monday. :-)

Eisboch

Not unless Yankees have gotten soft since I lived there.

Not soft. Just getting older.

Eisboch




Yeah, I don't like "real cold" much anymore myself. An old friend bought
a few houses at woodmont last year, and offered me a "deal" on one. Much
as the nostalgia of having a house on the Sound again appealed to me, I
turned it down. I love New England but I am only a short-time visitor
there now.

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I was surprised at the lack of attendees - there wasn't a point during
the day that I would call it "crowded" - plenty of room to move around
and look over, under and around boats.

Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence? Could
it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?


Probably more the 14 inches of global warming predicted for this weekend and
Monday. :-)

Eisboch

Lucky for me that my trip north has been cancelled. Tom, you can turn
the heater off.

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:46:45 -0500, HK wrote:


Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence?
Could it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?

The thought of Hillary.

Save as much cash as you can so that you can live through the tax increases.

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Jan 13, 9:46 am, HK wrote:

I was surprised at the lack of attendees - there wasn't a point during
the day that I would call it "crowded" - plenty of room to move around
and look over, under and around boats.
Gee, what do you suppose is behind the lack of consumer confidence?
Could it be the impending recession? Could it be the price of fuel?


The price of fuel.


Could be this:

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinio...46_erbe13.html

Bush tanked the U.S. economy

Last updated January 11, 2008 5:01 p.m. PT

By BONNIE ERBE
GUEST COLUMNIST

Recession, like menopause, is a retrospective diagnosis. You don't know
you're in one until you've been in it for at least two quarters (referring
to a recession) or a year (for menopause). The question for me is not: Are
we hitting a recession in 2008? It is: What has made the economy so
buoyant that we didn't submerge into a recession several years ago?

Wall Street giant and billion-dollar bank Merrill Lynch announced last
week that the United States had entered a recession for the first time in
16 years. It was a controversial call denied by a chorus of economists who
do not think we're there yet. But the announcement comes from the bank's
chief American economist, David Rosenberg -- widely respected on Wall
Street.

The largest factor driving this country's economy into recession has been
the Bush administration's profligate spending. Please read the following
quote from the conservative/libertarian think tank Cato Institute's Web
site:

"George Bush is mired in a fiscal policy crisis worse than anyone could
have envisioned when he entered the Oval Office ... This crisis is the
resurgence of record federal deficits ... The deterioration of America's
fiscal health cannot be blamed on ... pro-spending coalitions in the
Democrat-controlled Congress -- although certainly some of the blame lies
there. It is almost exclusively the creation of the Bush administration
itself."

Sound familiar? The article, which I edited heavily (taking out references
that would have dated it immediately, such as the use of the term
"Reaganomics"), is about George H.W. Bush, not George W. But it might as
well have been about the son.

Forget about the $127 billion surplus that President Clinton left the
nation after he moved out of the White House or the fact that Clinton paid
down hundreds of billions of dollars in federal debt. President George W.
Bush has produced nothing but deficits since he's been in office. Last
year's, at $163 billion, was the lowest in five years. But it probably
would not have been if his trillion-dollar war in Iraq hadn't been paid
for "off budget." That little budgetary trick by the administration means
that cost isn't tallied in the deficit and debt figures.

Then, of course, there's Bush's multitrillion-dollar tax cut.

Here's a lesson Bush never learned and one that probably could have kept
this country out of recession: You can't fight an expensive war AND cut
taxes simultaneously without sending the U.S. economy into the tank.

That is just what Bush has done.

There are other contributing factors, of course. The housing bust has hurt
this consumer-driven economy mightily. Americans felt richer and borrowed
heavily against home equity at the height of the boom. These factors kept
corporate profits and the economy growing.

But the bust that has now followed was highly predictable. Real estate
always runs in cycles. The last real-estate boom lasted an incredibly long
five years. The president should not have been piling up irresponsible
debt, knowing the crash would come at some point.

Then there is oil. Prices have been high since Hurricane Katrina, more
than two years ago. When you consider that early in Bush's first term oil
was selling for about $25 per barrel, and we're now paying about four
times that much, it's incredible that fact alone didn't drive us into
recession territory much sooner.

What has kept our economy growing these past few years? My theory is:
immigration. When millions of people flood into this country with few
possessions, buy homes and fill them with consumer goods, of course our
consumer economy is pumped. But that artificial pump-up won't last
forever. Unfortunately, the overdevelopment they prompt and the
environmental degradation they create will.

What's the solution? It won't be resolved with this guy in the White
House. Cut defense spending. Use a pay-go system for all future domestic
spending programs and tax cuts. Get the deficit down and bring the surplus
back. And while we're at it, pay down the national debt.

And what has a Democrat controlled Congress done in the last year to cure
the problem? Throw them all out!

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:51:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

snippity-snip

As I wandered away from the Gloucester show booth, a couple of booths
down was Seaway Boats.

I have run into these before, but they have updated their designs and
are now producing a differently styled boat. They've changed their
manufacturing process and redesigned their molds to create more
interior room in particular with the 21 Seafarer. The builder was in
the booth and I spent a very enjoyable hour with him discussing his
new design and why he made the changes from the older models. One of
the more interesting points he made was he was tired of building the
same old boat, so he canvassed his owners to see what they would like
to see changed, added or eliminated. He went through the 21 with me
stressing the changes, like the new molding method, the coaming
changes, little styling changes in the cuddy and moving the control
station to midships. He also changed the seating arrangements around
which made a nice improvement over the older models. He also said
that the same hull changes have been made to the other 21' models.

He also had a bare hull prototype there for his new 29' Open which
looked really good. He wants to ramp up tooling and production in
2009, but he's ahead of schedule - it may be introduced in the Fall.
I'd like to see it when he's finished.

His other boats have pretty much stayed the same, but he's adapting
the techniques used in building the 21 over to the older models and
changing up some of the interior designs. If he follows the same
concepts he's done with the 21, they will be better boats than they
already are.

I would consider a 21 Seafarer if I were looking for a good, solid,
all around performer for larger lakes and inshore fishing.

http://www.seawayboats.com/index.cfm...rowse&pageid=1

snippity-snip

Thanks for the url. I really liked the Seaway 25' Coastal Cruiser.
Optional diesel or outboard. Nice compact cruiser.
Thanks for the link.
Mark E. Williams