Yo Harry & Doug...NY Times putting the lie...
 

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:28:19 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 5, 10:38 am, wrote:
On Jan 5, 9:11 am, wrote:

On Jan 5, 8:50 am, John H. wrote:
to your latest anti-Bush AIDS bull****. Seems he's doing a good enough job
for the Times to actually give him some praise.
http://tinyurl.com/2xqj8c
--
John H
And this is not new news. GWB has been sending billions to the world
for AIDS as long as he has been in the Whitehouse. Last time I heard
of an aid package to South Africa of 15 billion. He has spent more on
AIDS than any other president, you just have of course not hear about
it much, kinda' like the surge in Iraq ;) Vast right wing
conspiracy...
Yes, Bush is the bestest, most humanitarian, economic, smartest,
diplomatic, domestic, foreign, thrifty nifty president EVER.........

What do you have against facts. Did I say he was the best? No? I
stated facts, based on "tangible assets", namely cash... What is your
problem, double standard? Now, just for comparison, IIRC, Billary gave
less than 8 billion during it's administration. Is there some kind of
math I am not aware of, cause if not, then nothing I said was remotely
amiss.


There's little funnier in politics than watching the diminishing dregs
of Bush supporters standing up for their man.

Is it more honorable to lie, Harry?
--
John H

Yo Harry & Doug...NY Times putting the lie...
 

On Jan 5, 8:28�am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 5, 10:38 am, wrote:
On Jan 5, 9:11 am, wrote:

On Jan 5, 8:50 am, John H. wrote:
to your latest anti-Bush AIDS bull****. Seems he's doing a good enough job
for the Times to actually give him some praise.
http://tinyurl.com/2xqj8c
--
John H
And this is not new news. GWB has been sending billions to the world
for AIDS as long as he has been in the Whitehouse. Last time I heard
of an aid package to South Africa of 15 billion. He has spent more on
AIDS than any other president, you just have of course not hear about
it much, kinda' like the surge in Iraq ;) � � � Vast right wing
conspiracy...
Yes, Bush is the bestest, most humanitarian, economic, smartest,
diplomatic, domestic, foreign, thrifty nifty president EVER.........

What do you have against facts. Did I say he was the best? No? I
stated facts, based on "tangible assets", namely cash... What is your
problem, double standard? Now, just for comparison, IIRC, Billary gave
less than 8 billion during it's administration. Is there some kind of
math I am not aware of, cause if not, then nothing I said was remotely
amiss.

There's little funnier in politics than watching the diminishing dregs
of Bush supporters standing up for their man.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On the positive side, loyalty is an excellent personal quality.
While it may be accurate that a majority of Americans are less-than-
happy with GWB, it's posible to admire those who continue to defend
his policies and leadership. The fact that a person may hold a
different opinion on a controversial subject doesn't make that person
either bad or stupid. Folks still passionately defending the current
administration should be commended for their loyalty to a professed
cause- many people would have defected from the ranks a long time ago.
Some have.

GWB may not be the very best president ever, but among those who
continue to support him despite everything he has and has not done in
seven years are some darn fine Americans. Who knows? 25-30 years from
now history may prove the Bush Doctrine and his domestic policies to
be extremely well founded. Or not.

Yo Harry & Doug...NY Times putting the lie...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...


GWB may not be the very best president ever, but among those who
continue to support him despite everything he has and has not done in
seven years are some darn fine Americans. Who knows? 25-30 years from
now history may prove the Bush Doctrine and his domestic policies to
be extremely well founded. Or not.

--------------------------------

I admit that I had much higher expectations of him. I've been disappointed
and was wrong.

But, I don't think GWB set out with an objective of being "the 43rd Best
President" or even the 1st.
I think he was handed a very difficult challenge, unlike any in recent US
history, got some bad advice and information and set upon a course that was
ill-planned and conceived.

I also don't think he's the brightest bulb in the drawer, but that doesn't
make him a bad person.
Some people can multi-plex, thinking through several scenarios and all their
detailed steps simultaneously. People with that ability can logically arrive
at a conclusion or decision that is almost always spot on. He obviously
does not have that ability, so he relies on others to map it out. But it
still doesn't make him a bad person.

I also have a tough time with all the conspiracy theories of a personal
agenda by his critics. If they are true, then the critics would have to
acknowledge that he's a lot smarter than they give him credit for because
most of the time he gets his way. I also don't buy into the blame for 9/11
simply because it happened on "his watch".

I sincerely think he's doing what *he* thinks is best. It may not be, and I
know I'll get blasted with the "lives lost" count. The critics weren't so
vocal however back at early stages of the war and objectives were being
easily accomplished.

I also lost some respect for a few people including Colon Powell. There
obviously was a power struggle for influence and Powell gave up. I wish he
had stayed or had been forced to resign to emphasis his position. Maybe he
was ... I don't know.

It's interesting to speculate on what the past 7 years would have been like
had 9/11 not occurred.

Anyway, we try again next November. I agree with your previous comment, let
the best person for the job win.

Eisboch

Yo Harry & Doug...NY Times putting the lie...
 

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:57:41 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jan 5, 8:28?am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 5, 10:38 am, wrote:
On Jan 5, 9:11 am, wrote:

On Jan 5, 8:50 am, John H. wrote:
to your latest anti-Bush AIDS bull****. Seems he's doing a good enough job
for the Times to actually give him some praise.
http://tinyurl.com/2xqj8c
--
John H
And this is not new news. GWB has been sending billions to the world
for AIDS as long as he has been in the Whitehouse. Last time I heard
of an aid package to South Africa of 15 billion. He has spent more on
AIDS than any other president, you just have of course not hear about
it much, kinda' like the surge in Iraq ;) ? ? ? Vast right wing
conspiracy...
Yes, Bush is the bestest, most humanitarian, economic, smartest,
diplomatic, domestic, foreign, thrifty nifty president EVER.........

What do you have against facts. Did I say he was the best? No? I
stated facts, based on "tangible assets", namely cash... What is your
problem, double standard? Now, just for comparison, IIRC, Billary gave
less than 8 billion during it's administration. Is there some kind of
math I am not aware of, cause if not, then nothing I said was remotely
amiss.

There's little funnier in politics than watching the diminishing dregs
of Bush supporters standing up for their man.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On the positive side, loyalty is an excellent personal quality.
While it may be accurate that a majority of Americans are less-than-
happy with GWB, it's posible to admire those who continue to defend
his policies and leadership. The fact that a person may hold a
different opinion on a controversial subject doesn't make that person
either bad or stupid. Folks still passionately defending the current
administration should be commended for their loyalty to a professed
cause- many people would have defected from the ranks a long time ago.
Some have.

GWB may not be the very best president ever, but among those who
continue to support him despite everything he has and has not done in
seven years are some darn fine Americans. Who knows? 25-30 years from
now history may prove the Bush Doctrine and his domestic policies to
be extremely well founded. Or not.

But on the negative side, you're lending credence to a Krause comment.
--
John H

Yo Harry & Doug...NY Times putting the lie...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:57:41 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jan 5, 8:28?am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 5, 10:38 am, wrote:
On Jan 5, 9:11 am, wrote:

On Jan 5, 8:50 am, John H. wrote:
to your latest anti-Bush AIDS bull****. Seems he's doing a good
enough job
for the Times to actually give him some praise.
http://tinyurl.com/2xqj8c
--
John H
And this is not new news. GWB has been sending billions to the world
for AIDS as long as he has been in the Whitehouse. Last time I heard
of an aid package to South Africa of 15 billion. He has spent more
on
AIDS than any other president, you just have of course not hear
about
it much, kinda' like the surge in Iraq ;) ? ? ? Vast right wing
conspiracy...
Yes, Bush is the bestest, most humanitarian, economic, smartest,
diplomatic, domestic, foreign, thrifty nifty president EVER.........

What do you have against facts. Did I say he was the best? No? I
stated facts, based on "tangible assets", namely cash... What is your
problem, double standard? Now, just for comparison, IIRC, Billary gave
less than 8 billion during it's administration. Is there some kind of
math I am not aware of, cause if not, then nothing I said was remotely
amiss.

There's little funnier in politics than watching the diminishing dregs
of Bush supporters standing up for their man.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On the positive side, loyalty is an excellent personal quality.
While it may be accurate that a majority of Americans are less-than-
happy with GWB, it's posible to admire those who continue to defend
his policies and leadership. The fact that a person may hold a
different opinion on a controversial subject doesn't make that person
either bad or stupid. Folks still passionately defending the current
administration should be commended for their loyalty to a professed
cause- many people would have defected from the ranks a long time ago.
Some have.

GWB may not be the very best president ever, but among those who
continue to support him despite everything he has and has not done in
seven years are some darn fine Americans. Who knows? 25-30 years from
now history may prove the Bush Doctrine and his domestic policies to
be extremely well founded. Or not.

But on the negative side, you're lending credence to a Krause comment.
--
John H
Harry can't be off the wall 100% of the time. He has to slip up once in a
while.

Yo Harry & Doug...NY Times putting the lie...
 

On Jan 5, 2:02*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...

GWB may not be the very best president ever, but among those who
continue to support him despite everything he has and has not done in
seven years are some darn fine Americans. Who knows? 25-30 years from
now history may prove the Bush Doctrine and his domestic policies to
be extremely well founded. Or not.

--------------------------------

I admit that I had much higher expectations of him. *I've been disappointed
and was wrong.

But, I don't think GWB set out with an objective of being "the 43rd Best
President" or even the 1st.
I think he was handed a very difficult challenge, unlike any in recent US
history, got some bad advice and information and set upon a course that was
ill-planned and conceived.

I also don't think he's the brightest bulb in the drawer, but that doesn't
make him a bad person.
Some people can multi-plex, thinking through several scenarios and all their
detailed steps simultaneously. People with that ability can logically arrive
at a conclusion or decision that is almost always spot on. * He obviously
does not have that ability, so he relies on others to map it out. *But it
still doesn't make him a bad person.

I also have a tough time with all the conspiracy theories of a personal
agenda by his critics. *If they are true, then the critics would have to
acknowledge that he's a lot smarter than they give him credit for because
most of the time he gets his way. *I also don't buy into the blame for 9/11
simply because it happened on "his watch".

I sincerely think he's doing what *he* thinks is best. *It may not be, and I
know I'll get blasted with the "lives lost" count. *The critics weren't so
vocal however back at early stages of the war and objectives were being
easily accomplished.

I also lost some respect for a few people including Colon Powell. *There
obviously was a power struggle for influence and Powell gave up. *I wish he
had stayed or had been forced to resign to emphasis his position. *Maybe he
was ... I don't know.

It's interesting to speculate on what the past 7 years would have been like
had 9/11 not occurred.

Anyway, we try again next November. *I agree with your previous comment, let
the best person for the job win.

Eisboch

Very well said, Richard.