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ECONOMIC REPORT
Jobless rate jumps to 5% as payroll growth stalls
December nonfarm payrolls rise 18,000, weakest gain in more than four
years
By Rex Nutting, Marke****ch
Last update: 9:54 a.m. EST Jan. 4, 2008
WASHINGTON (Marke****ch) -- The nation's unemployment rate shot up to 5%
in December as job growth stalled, a sign that the labor market is
stressed as the U.S. economic slump spreads.
Stocks sold off on the report, while bond prices rose. The yield on the
benchmark 10-year note fell to 3.85%. See Market Snapshot.
U.S. seasonally adjusted nonfarm payrolls rose by 18,000 in December, the
weakest job growth since August 2003, according to a survey of thousands
of businesses, the Labor Department reported Friday.
Private-sector payrolls fell by 13,000, the first decline in more than
four years.
Economists were expecting payrolls to increase about 58,000 in December,
according to survey conducted by Marke****ch. See Economic Calendar.
Job growth was revised up by a total of 10,000 in November and October.
Read the full report.
A separate survey of households showed employment plunging by 436,000,
marking the biggest decline in five years. The number of unemployed adults
rose by 474,000, pushing the unemployment rate up to 5% from 4.7%.
Economists were expecting the rate to rise to 4.8% in December.
The jobless rate had been under 5% for 25 consecutive months.
Recession view
The jobless rate has risen 0.6 percentage points since March. "When
unemployment rises by more than 0.5% from its cycle low a recession
generally ensues," wrote Robert Brusca of FAO Economics.
The weak jobs report puts more pressure on the Federal Reserve to act
aggressively to prevent a recession. Earlier in the week, the prescient
Institute for Supply Management manufacturing index fell below the
break-even 50% mark, dropping to a nearly four-year low.
Ahead of the report, the Fed was expected to cut its overnight lending
rate by a quarter- percentage point later this month to further stimulate
the economy, which has slowed significantly with the collapse of the
housing market and turmoil in the credit markets. The surge in
unemployment could encourage the Fed to cut rates by a half-point.
"The risk stemming from this is that consumers who face debt constraints
may not see income growth as strong in coming months," wrote Stephen
Gallagher, U.S. economist for Societe Generale. For the Federal Reserve,
however, the need to continue offering support to the markets and the
economy only grows.
However, the Fed's hands are tied somewhat by worries about inflation, and
the jobs report added to those concerns. Average hourly earnings rose 7
cents, or 0.4%, in December, more than the 0.2% gain expected. Earnings
have increased 3.7% in the past year.
Construction
Goods-producing industries cut 75,000 jobs in December, including 49,000
in construction and 31,000 in manufacturing.
Construction jobs have fallen by 236,000 since September 2006.
Manufacturing industries tied to construction accounted for about 30% of
the jobs lost in the factory sector in 2007.
Services-producing industries added 93,000 jobs. Government added 31,000,
including 25,000 in education.
Professional and business services added 43,000 jobs. Retail industries
cut 24,000 jobs; since March, the retail sector has lost 34,000 jobs.
Education and health-care added 44,000 jobs.
Total hours worked in the economy were unchanged. The average work week
was steady at 33.8 hours. Hours worked in manufacturing decreased by a
substantial 0.7%.
Of 278 industries, 48.4% were hiring in December, the first month since
September 2003 that fewer than half of industries were adding jobs. Of 84
manufacturing industries, just 31.5% were hiring in December. End of Story
Rex Nutting is Washington bureau chief of Marke****ch.



All this under a "Democrat" controlled Congress.

Eisboch


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More bad news for the GOP wannabe's:





ECONOMIC REPORT
Jobless rate jumps to 5% as payroll growth stalls
December nonfarm payrolls rise 18,000, weakest gain in more than four
years
By Rex Nutting, Marke****ch
Last update: 9:54 a.m. EST Jan. 4, 2008
WASHINGTON (Marke****ch) -- The nation's unemployment rate shot up to 5%
in December as job growth stalled, a sign that the labor market is
stressed as the U.S. economic slump spreads.
Stocks sold off on the report, while bond prices rose. The yield on the
benchmark 10-year note fell to 3.85%. See Market Snapshot.
U.S. seasonally adjusted nonfarm payrolls rose by 18,000 in December, the
weakest job growth since August 2003, according to a survey of thousands
of businesses, the Labor Department reported Friday.
Private-sector payrolls fell by 13,000, the first decline in more than
four years.
Economists were expecting payrolls to increase about 58,000 in December,
according to survey conducted by Marke****ch. See Economic Calendar.
Job growth was revised up by a total of 10,000 in November and October.
Read the full report.
A separate survey of households showed employment plunging by 436,000,
marking the biggest decline in five years. The number of unemployed adults
rose by 474,000, pushing the unemployment rate up to 5% from 4.7%.
Economists were expecting the rate to rise to 4.8% in December.
The jobless rate had been under 5% for 25 consecutive months.
Recession view
The jobless rate has risen 0.6 percentage points since March. "When
unemployment rises by more than 0.5% from its cycle low a recession
generally ensues," wrote Robert Brusca of FAO Economics.
The weak jobs report puts more pressure on the Federal Reserve to act
aggressively to prevent a recession. Earlier in the week, the prescient
Institute for Supply Management manufacturing index fell below the
break-even 50% mark, dropping to a nearly four-year low.
Ahead of the report, the Fed was expected to cut its overnight lending
rate by a quarter- percentage point later this month to further stimulate
the economy, which has slowed significantly with the collapse of the
housing market and turmoil in the credit markets. The surge in
unemployment could encourage the Fed to cut rates by a half-point.
"The risk stemming from this is that consumers who face debt constraints
may not see income growth as strong in coming months," wrote Stephen
Gallagher, U.S. economist for Societe Generale. For the Federal Reserve,
however, the need to continue offering support to the markets and the
economy only grows.
However, the Fed's hands are tied somewhat by worries about inflation, and
the jobs report added to those concerns. Average hourly earnings rose 7
cents, or 0.4%, in December, more than the 0.2% gain expected. Earnings
have increased 3.7% in the past year.
Construction
Goods-producing industries cut 75,000 jobs in December, including 49,000
in construction and 31,000 in manufacturing.
Construction jobs have fallen by 236,000 since September 2006.
Manufacturing industries tied to construction accounted for about 30% of
the jobs lost in the factory sector in 2007.
Services-producing industries added 93,000 jobs. Government added 31,000,
including 25,000 in education.
Professional and business services added 43,000 jobs. Retail industries
cut 24,000 jobs; since March, the retail sector has lost 34,000 jobs.
Education and health-care added 44,000 jobs.
Total hours worked in the economy were unchanged. The average work week
was steady at 33.8 hours. Hours worked in manufacturing decreased by a
substantial 0.7%.
Of 278 industries, 48.4% were hiring in December, the first month since
September 2003 that fewer than half of industries were adding jobs. Of 84
manufacturing industries, just 31.5% were hiring in December. End of Story
Rex Nutting is Washington bureau chief of Marke****ch.



All this under a "Democrat" controlled Congress.

Eisboch



Sorry, but all the Dems have is a simple majority. They don't control
Congress. At the moment, because of the way the numbers are divided, the
Dems don't control it but the Repubs can obstruct them.

The point here is the "callback" to the re-election campaign of George
H.W. Bush. He was out touting how wonderful the economy was, Clinton
nailed him with the "It's the economy, stupid" line and won the election.

Bush keeps touting the economy. So do several GOP wannabes. The economy
is tanking, and the ramifications of the housing shake-out are just
beginning to be felt. By the summer and fall, we'll likely be in the
middle of a recession. The Repubs will call for more "tax cuts" for the
rich and the smart Dems will say that Republican trickle-down economic
moves (like tax cuts for the rich) do nothing more than trickle down
money from one Bush generation to the next and leave the middle class
jobless, homeless, medical insuranceless and pensionless.

Or something like that.




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Eisboch wrote:
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More bad news for the GOP wannabe's:






Sorry, but all the Dems have is a simple majority. They don't control
Congress. At the moment, because of the way the numbers are divided, the
Dems don't control it but the Repubs can obstruct them.

The point here is the "callback" to the re-election campaign of George
H.W. Bush. He was out touting how wonderful the economy was, Clinton
nailed him with the "It's the economy, stupid" line and won the election.

Bush keeps touting the economy. So do several GOP wannabes. The economy is
tanking, and the ramifications of the housing shake-out are just beginning
to be felt. By the summer and fall, we'll likely be in the middle of a
recession. The Repubs will call for more "tax cuts" for the rich and the
smart Dems will say that Republican trickle-down economic moves (like tax
cuts for the rich) do nothing more than trickle down money from one Bush
generation to the next and leave the middle class jobless, homeless,
medical insuranceless and pensionless.

Or something like that.


Well, to tell the truth, my major objection to the politics of this county
is the slow slide towards socialism that we have experienced over the last
20 or 30 years. I hate to see that and although I actually have a libral
side on some issues, I probably tend more to a conservative nature.

I'd like to see the USA retain it's historical reputation as a land of
opportunity for those willing to work for it. It seems to be very difficult
for either party to manage a system where freedom and opportunity is the
basic rule, but with programs to help those who truly need help can get it
without it being exploited and becoming a universal "entitlement".

But, I also think it's a good idea to shake the trees every once in a while
so no one political agenda gets too powerful. Fortunately, our form of
government can withstand a few duds and survive.

Eisboch


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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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More bad news for the GOP wannabe's:





ECONOMIC REPORT
Jobless rate jumps to 5% as payroll growth stalls
December nonfarm payrolls rise 18,000, weakest gain in more than four
years
By Rex Nutting, Marke****ch
Last update: 9:54 a.m. EST Jan. 4, 2008
WASHINGTON (Marke****ch) -- The nation's unemployment rate shot up to 5%
in December as job growth stalled, a sign that the labor market is
stressed as the U.S. economic slump spreads.
Stocks sold off on the report, while bond prices rose. The yield on the
benchmark 10-year note fell to 3.85%. See Market Snapshot.
U.S. seasonally adjusted nonfarm payrolls rose by 18,000 in December,
the weakest job growth since August 2003, according to a survey of
thousands of businesses, the Labor Department reported Friday.
Private-sector payrolls fell by 13,000, the first decline in more than
four years.
Economists were expecting payrolls to increase about 58,000 in December,
according to survey conducted by Marke****ch. See Economic Calendar.
Job growth was revised up by a total of 10,000 in November and October.
Read the full report.
A separate survey of households showed employment plunging by 436,000,
marking the biggest decline in five years. The number of unemployed
adults rose by 474,000, pushing the unemployment rate up to 5% from
4.7%. Economists were expecting the rate to rise to 4.8% in December.
The jobless rate had been under 5% for 25 consecutive months.
Recession view
The jobless rate has risen 0.6 percentage points since March. "When
unemployment rises by more than 0.5% from its cycle low a recession
generally ensues," wrote Robert Brusca of FAO Economics.
The weak jobs report puts more pressure on the Federal Reserve to act
aggressively to prevent a recession. Earlier in the week, the prescient
Institute for Supply Management manufacturing index fell below the
break-even 50% mark, dropping to a nearly four-year low.
Ahead of the report, the Fed was expected to cut its overnight lending
rate by a quarter- percentage point later this month to further
stimulate the economy, which has slowed significantly with the collapse
of the housing market and turmoil in the credit markets. The surge in
unemployment could encourage the Fed to cut rates by a half-point.
"The risk stemming from this is that consumers who face debt constraints
may not see income growth as strong in coming months," wrote Stephen
Gallagher, U.S. economist for Societe Generale. For the Federal Reserve,
however, the need to continue offering support to the markets and the
economy only grows.
However, the Fed's hands are tied somewhat by worries about inflation,
and the jobs report added to those concerns. Average hourly earnings
rose 7 cents, or 0.4%, in December, more than the 0.2% gain expected.
Earnings have increased 3.7% in the past year.
Construction
Goods-producing industries cut 75,000 jobs in December, including 49,000
in construction and 31,000 in manufacturing.
Construction jobs have fallen by 236,000 since September 2006.
Manufacturing industries tied to construction accounted for about 30% of
the jobs lost in the factory sector in 2007.
Services-producing industries added 93,000 jobs. Government added
31,000, including 25,000 in education.
Professional and business services added 43,000 jobs. Retail industries
cut 24,000 jobs; since March, the retail sector has lost 34,000 jobs.
Education and health-care added 44,000 jobs.
Total hours worked in the economy were unchanged. The average work week
was steady at 33.8 hours. Hours worked in manufacturing decreased by a
substantial 0.7%.
Of 278 industries, 48.4% were hiring in December, the first month since
September 2003 that fewer than half of industries were adding jobs. Of
84 manufacturing industries, just 31.5% were hiring in December. End of
Story
Rex Nutting is Washington bureau chief of Marke****ch.



All this under a "Democrat" controlled Congress.

Eisboch


Sorry, but all the Dems have is a simple majority. They don't control
Congress. At the moment, because of the way the numbers are divided, the
Dems don't control it but the Repubs can obstruct them.

The point here is the "callback" to the re-election campaign of George
H.W. Bush. He was out touting how wonderful the economy was, Clinton
nailed him with the "It's the economy, stupid" line and won the election.

Bush keeps touting the economy. So do several GOP wannabes. The economy is
tanking, and the ramifications of the housing shake-out are just beginning
to be felt. By the summer and fall, we'll likely be in the middle of a
recession. The Repubs will call for more "tax cuts" for the rich and the
smart Dems will say that Republican trickle-down economic moves (like tax
cuts for the rich) do nothing more than trickle down money from one Bush
generation to the next and leave the middle class jobless, homeless,
medical insuranceless and pensionless.

Or something like that.


And the boating connection here, Harold, is that Ted Kennedy is a Democrat?
And that he once drove his Oldsmobile into the water, apparently thinking it
was a boat? Or am I confusing this with the murder of a young woman by
another drunken Democrat? I forget, but knowing your reputation, I'm sure
there is SOME boating connection. Cheers Old Boy.


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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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More bad news for the GOP wannabe's:


ECONOMIC REPORT
Jobless rate jumps to 5% as payroll growth stalls
December nonfarm payrolls rise 18,000, weakest gain in more than four
years
By Rex Nutting, Marke****ch
Last update: 9:54 a.m. EST Jan. 4, 2008
WASHINGTON (Marke****ch) -- The nation's unemployment rate shot up to 5%
in December as job growth stalled, a sign that the labor market is
stressed as the U.S. economic slump spreads.
Stocks sold off on the report, while bond prices rose. The yield on the
benchmark 10-year note fell to 3.85%. See Market Snapshot.
U.S. seasonally adjusted nonfarm payrolls rose by 18,000 in December,
the weakest job growth since August 2003, according to a survey of
thousands of businesses, the Labor Department reported Friday.
Private-sector payrolls fell by 13,000, the first decline in more than
four years.
Economists were expecting payrolls to increase about 58,000 in December,
according to survey conducted by Marke****ch. See Economic Calendar.
Job growth was revised up by a total of 10,000 in November and October..
Read the full report.
A separate survey of households showed employment plunging by 436,000,
marking the biggest decline in five years. The number of unemployed
adults rose by 474,000, pushing the unemployment rate up to 5% from
4.7%. Economists were expecting the rate to rise to 4.8% in December.
The jobless rate had been under 5% for 25 consecutive months.
Recession view
The jobless rate has risen 0.6 percentage points since March. "When
unemployment rises by more than 0.5% from its cycle low a recession
generally ensues," wrote Robert Brusca of FAO Economics.
The weak jobs report puts more pressure on the Federal Reserve to act
aggressively to prevent a recession. Earlier in the week, the prescient
Institute for Supply Management manufacturing index fell below the
break-even 50% mark, dropping to a nearly four-year low.
Ahead of the report, the Fed was expected to cut its overnight lending
rate by a quarter- percentage point later this month to further
stimulate the economy, which has slowed significantly with the collapse
of the housing market and turmoil in the credit markets. The surge in
unemployment could encourage the Fed to cut rates by a half-point.
"The risk stemming from this is that consumers who face debt constraints
may not see income growth as strong in coming months," wrote Stephen
Gallagher, U.S. economist for Societe Generale. For the Federal Reserve,
however, the need to continue offering support to the markets and the
economy only grows.
However, the Fed's hands are tied somewhat by worries about inflation,
and the jobs report added to those concerns. Average hourly earnings
rose 7 cents, or 0.4%, in December, more than the 0.2% gain expected.
Earnings have increased 3.7% in the past year.
Construction
Goods-producing industries cut 75,000 jobs in December, including 49,000
in construction and 31,000 in manufacturing.
Construction jobs have fallen by 236,000 since September 2006.
Manufacturing industries tied to construction accounted for about 30% of
the jobs lost in the factory sector in 2007.
Services-producing industries added 93,000 jobs. Government added
31,000, including 25,000 in education.
Professional and business services added 43,000 jobs. Retail industries
cut 24,000 jobs; since March, the retail sector has lost 34,000 jobs.
Education and health-care added 44,000 jobs.
Total hours worked in the economy were unchanged. The average work week
was steady at 33.8 hours. Hours worked in manufacturing decreased by a
substantial 0.7%.
Of 278 industries, 48.4% were hiring in December, the first month since
September 2003 that fewer than half of industries were adding jobs. Of
84 manufacturing industries, just 31.5% were hiring in December. End of
Story
Rex Nutting is Washington bureau chief of Marke****ch.


All this under a *"Democrat" *controlled Congress.


Eisboch


Sorry, but all the Dems have is a simple majority. They don't control
Congress. At the moment, because of the way the numbers are divided, the
Dems don't control it but the Repubs can obstruct them.


The point here is the "callback" to the re-election campaign of George
H.W. Bush. He was out touting how wonderful the economy was, Clinton
nailed him with the "It's the economy, stupid" line and won the election..


Bush keeps touting the economy. So do several GOP wannabes. The economy is
tanking, and the ramifications of the housing shake-out are just beginning
to be felt. By the summer and fall, we'll likely be in the middle of a
recession. The Repubs will call for more "tax cuts" for the rich and the
smart Dems will say that Republican trickle-down economic moves (like tax
cuts for the rich) do nothing more than trickle down money from one Bush
generation to the next and leave the middle class jobless, homeless,
medical insuranceless and pensionless.


Or something like that.


And the boating connection here, Harold, is that Ted Kennedy is a Democrat?
And that he once drove his Oldsmobile into the water, apparently thinking it
was a boat? *Or am I confusing this with the murder of a young woman by
another drunken Democrat? *I forget, but knowing your reputation, I'm sure
there is SOME boating connection. *Cheers Old Boy.- Hide quoted text -

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