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Eisboch December 27th 07 11:58 PM

Yo! Salty
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:39:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Go order your charger. And may the Force be with you.


Would that be the Electro Magnetic Force?

~~ snerk ~~



You got it.

Eisboch (exposed to too many lines of flux)



Larry December 28th 07 01:39 AM

Yo! Salty
 
wrote in :

Okay, now that I've read the detailed description, I'm convinced this
will properly charge a deep cycle battery. My charger actually has the
word SMART on the front panel. I don't see that on the photos of this
one, but the description spells it out.



Man! I musta missed something REAL important!

Running my stepvan electronics shop is two 6V, deep cycle, 660AH golf
cart monsters in series into a 750W Black and Decker inverter from Wally
World.

Power comes from the nice 40A 115/240VAC completely unregulated,
uncomputerized, MANUAL battery charger from my buddy's Amel Sharki 41, a
seriously heavy duty, full duty cycle, charger. The only "settings" on
it are LOW - Medium - HIGH in both the 115 and 240V taps on the
transformer primary. At 115VAC, open circuit voltage is about 14.4VDC,
so the charge tapers off quite nicely ending up around 2A set on low,
which you wouldn't want to perk the batteries with if you didn't use
them.

There's never been another charger applied to these batteries that are 4
years old, next month I think. Gravity in all cells is around 1.260 if
you compensate with the appropriate thermometer and chart the way you are
supposed to....

If you computer experts see my truck in the marina parking lot...PLEASE,
don't let my batteries hear anything about "smart chargers" and "Three
stage charging" and all this other nonsense Waste Marine wants $600 for,
ok? Please?! They're living quite happily with me flippin' the switch
on and off by hand and puttin a l'il of my homemade distilled water in
'em when they're needin' it.

When the ON-OFF switch is ON, the golf cart beasts are paralleled with
the two parallel red AGM diesel starting batteries and it all charges up
quite nicely paralleled like that, too! Keep this talk away from the
radiator so the AGMs don't hear it, too!

Thanks......SHHH! Keep it down!!

Larry
--
I think I'll boost 'em tomorrow, just to show 'em I still love 'em....(c;


Eisboch December 28th 07 02:11 AM

Yo! Salty
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...

Man! I musta missed something REAL important!


If you computer experts see my truck in the marina parking lot...PLEASE,
don't let my batteries hear anything about "smart chargers" and "Three
stage charging" and all this other nonsense Waste Marine wants $600 for,
ok? Please?! They're living quite happily with me flippin' the switch
on and off by hand and puttin a l'il of my homemade distilled water in
'em when they're needin' it.


Thanks......SHHH! Keep it down!!

Larry




Rather than wasting time convincing idiots like us, why don't you contact
manufacturers and other experts on battery charging and share your advanced
knowledge on the subject. I am sure they would be appreciative to learn why
they have it all screwed up.

You could start with these guys but there are many, many more that
apparently don't understand the physics as well as you claim to.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-13.htm

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing December 28th 07 02:11 AM

Yo! Salty
 
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:12:15 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:37:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..

Whoa, back up. Did you read the description of the charger? It's part of
the same line of chargers Salty was showing pictures of.


It certainly sounds like a smart charger. The picture sure doesn't look
like one though.


Are you saying that it looks stupid?


No, but it does look like something that got off the short bus.

Get it - short bus?

Vic Smith December 28th 07 02:23 AM

Yo! Salty
 
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:18:57 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:39:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..


OK!

Now, if Eisboch will agree, the order will be placed. Then it will be a
unanimous three out of three.



No. I think we need to kick this around a few more times. :-)

Go order your charger. And may the Force be with you.

Eisboch


Thanks. Done. I hope so!


Wait a minute. Does it say "Smart" on the front?
Or "New Economy Size?"

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing December 28th 07 02:27 AM

Yo! Salty
 
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:11:09 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
.. .

Man! I musta missed something REAL important!


If you computer experts see my truck in the marina parking lot...PLEASE,
don't let my batteries hear anything about "smart chargers" and "Three
stage charging" and all this other nonsense Waste Marine wants $600 for,
ok? Please?! They're living quite happily with me flippin' the switch
on and off by hand and puttin a l'il of my homemade distilled water in
'em when they're needin' it.

Thanks......SHHH! Keep it down!!


Rather than wasting time convincing idiots like us, why don't you contact
manufacturers and other experts on battery charging and share your advanced
knowledge on the subject. I am sure they would be appreciative to learn why
they have it all screwed up.

You could start with these guys but there are many, many more that
apparently don't understand the physics as well as you claim to.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-13.htm


What Larry forgot to mention were the leads from his tin foil hat that
channel all that microwave energy beamed from those spy satellites the
Illumaniti and Tri-Lateral Commission put in space to keep track of
his every movement.

That's what is actually charging his super-duper battery bank.

Jim December 28th 07 02:35 AM

Yo! Salty
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Larry" wrote in message
...

Man! I musta missed something REAL important!


If you computer experts see my truck in the marina parking lot...PLEASE,
don't let my batteries hear anything about "smart chargers" and "Three
stage charging" and all this other nonsense Waste Marine wants $600 for,
ok? Please?! They're living quite happily with me flippin' the switch
on and off by hand and puttin a l'il of my homemade distilled water in
'em when they're needin' it.


Thanks......SHHH! Keep it down!!

Larry




Rather than wasting time convincing idiots like us, why don't you contact
manufacturers and other experts on battery charging and share your
advanced knowledge on the subject. I am sure they would be appreciative
to learn why they have it all screwed up.

You could start with these guys but there are many, many more that
apparently don't understand the physics as well as you claim to.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-13.htm

Eisboch

You need a vacation.


Eisboch December 28th 07 02:49 AM

Yo! Salty
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:37:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..

Whoa, back up. Did you read the description of the charger? It's part of
the same line of chargers Salty was showing pictures of.


It certainly sounds like a smart charger. The picture sure doesn't look
like one though.

Eisboch


Are you saying that it looks stupid?



No. The picture of the charger in the link that John provided looked like
the packaging style of a typical transformer type charger. It didn't look
like any of the switch mode models being produced that I've seen.
Obviously, I haven't seen them all and might be wrong.

Eisboch



Eisboch December 28th 07 03:12 AM

Yo! Salty
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...


You need a vacation.


I need somthin'.

Do you remember the "apartment" in our house? The little living room has
half of a cathedral ceiling and then there was a big, flat wall that came
down from the peak of the roof to the ceiling level of the kitchen area. In
the attic, above the kitchen and behind that flat wall was a roughed in room
that was never finished. My project for the past month or two involved
insulating, sheetrocking, plastering and wiring that room and cutting out a
large, rectangular section of the flat wall, along with a doorway creating
an office "loft".

I built a custom "ladder" (as opposed to a staircase per building codes) up
to the loft. The main event was rigging a block and tackle tied into the
main header of the rectangular opening to hoist my 300 lb desk up into the
new office space. Took me two weeks to build up the courage to haul it up
there.

Anyway, the best part follows:

One end of the new office space has another doorway leading into the rest of
the attic area. I've built a hallway behind it and then a hobby workshop
off of it. I hoisted a couple of big, wooden bookcases into the office and
installed hidden casters under one of them. The top of the bookcase is
attached to the door frame opening with a heavy duty steel drawslide. This
bookcase hides the doorway, but with a gentle push, slides to the right,
revealing the "secret" passageway to the workshop area.

The grandkids freaked out when they saw it. In fact, so did Mrs.E.

Eisboch




Jim December 28th 07 11:10 AM

Yo! Salty
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...


You need a vacation.


I need somthin'.

Do you remember the "apartment" in our house? The little living room has
half of a cathedral ceiling and then there was a big, flat wall that came
down from the peak of the roof to the ceiling level of the kitchen area.
In the attic, above the kitchen and behind that flat wall was a roughed in
room that was never finished. My project for the past month or two
involved insulating, sheetrocking, plastering and wiring that room and
cutting out a large, rectangular section of the flat wall, along with a
doorway creating an office "loft".

I built a custom "ladder" (as opposed to a staircase per building codes)
up to the loft. The main event was rigging a block and tackle tied into
the main header of the rectangular opening to hoist my 300 lb desk up into
the new office space. Took me two weeks to build up the courage to haul
it up there.

Anyway, the best part follows:

One end of the new office space has another doorway leading into the rest
of the attic area. I've built a hallway behind it and then a hobby
workshop off of it. I hoisted a couple of big, wooden bookcases into the
office and installed hidden casters under one of them. The top of the
bookcase is attached to the door frame opening with a heavy duty steel
drawslide. This bookcase hides the doorway, but with a gentle push,
slides to the right, revealing the "secret" passageway to the workshop
area.

The grandkids freaked out when they saw it. In fact, so did Mrs.E.

Eisboch



I remember the Apartment but I can't visualize what you did. Put it on the
tour the next time I visit Camp E. Check your mail.



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