to any who may celebrate same.
--
John H

On Dec 26, 7:07�am, John H. wrote:
to any who may celebrate same.
--
John H

According to Google, about 1200 people have read at least one thing or
posted something to rec.boats over the years. I would personally guess
that the number of folks participating here regularly is 25-50. Maybe
some of those folks are African American, and Kwanzaa is a recently
introduced African American (rather than traditional African) holiday
celebration. I suspect that most observers of Kwanzaa also celebrate
Christmas, but wouldn't be able to substantiate that as a fact.

Minorities in general are under-represented in the boating community.
My personal opinion is that it has more to do with economic
opportunity
than with any blatant discrimination. Owning anything larger than an
old rowboat becomes an expensive proposition, (as any boater well
knows). While there are more poor white people in America than poor
people of any other ethnicity, minorities are disproportionately
represented among the poor when compared to the various percentages of
the general population.

Reasons for the disparate economic opportunites that keep boating less
diverse than many other activities can include recent immigration to
the US. First and second generations arriving here are often less
fluent in English and therefore have less access to higher education
or better paying jobs.There will probably always be some racial
discrimination, (even if subtle), that requires many people of color
to "super achieve" in order to be afforded some of the same respect
that we in the largest ethnic group take for granted.

I'd like to see more diversity among boaters, but to become an
economically colorblind society we do need to work toward assuring
that race, religion, gender, etc are not used (in *any* manner) when
apportioning educational or economic opportunities.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:38:05 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Dec 26, 7:07?am, John H. wrote:
to any who may celebrate same.
--
John H

According to Google, about 1200 people have read at least one thing or
posted something to rec.boats over the years. I would personally guess
that the number of folks participating here regularly is 25-50. Maybe
some of those folks are African American, and Kwanzaa is a recently
introduced African American (rather than traditional African) holiday
celebration.

Well, if some of the folks here celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's good. Today
is the first day of the Kwanzaa celebration, so:

Happy Kwanza - to any and all who may celebrate same.


--
John H

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:20:34 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:48:29 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:38:05 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Dec 26, 7:07?am, John H. wrote:
to any who may celebrate same.
--
John H

According to Google, about 1200 people have read at least one thing or
posted something to rec.boats over the years. I would personally guess
that the number of folks participating here regularly is 25-50. Maybe
some of those folks are African American, and Kwanzaa is a recently
introduced African American (rather than traditional African) holiday
celebration.

Well, if some of the folks here celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's good. Today
is the first day of the Kwanzaa celebration, so:

Happy Kwanza - to any and all who may celebrate same.

That's like "Happy John Day".

Huh?

Dr. Maulana Karenga, professor and chairman of Black Studies at
California State University, Long Beach, created Kwanzaa in 1966. After
the Watts riots in Los Angeles, Dr. Karenga searched for ways to bring
African-Americans together as a community. He founded US, a cultural
organization, and started to research African "first fruit" (harvest)
celebrations. Karenga combined aspects of several different harvest
celebrations, such as those of the Ashanti and those of the Zulu, to
form the basis of Kwanzaa.


The official site is: http://tinyurl.com/rpslq



In 1971 Karenga, Louis Smith, and Luz Maria Tamayo were convicted
of felony assault and false imprisonment for assaulting and
torturing over a two day period two women from the Us
organization, Deborah Jones and Gail Davis. [4] A May 14, 1971
article in the Los Angeles Times described the testimony of one
of the women: "Deborah Jones, who once was given the Swahili
title of an African queen, said she and Gail Davis were whipped
with an electrical cord and beaten with a karate baton after
being ordered to remove their clothes. She testified that a hot
soldering iron was placed in Ms. Davis's mouth and placed against
Ms. Davis's face and that one of her own big toes was tightened
in a vise. Karenga also put detergent and running hoses in their
mouths, she said."

Not sure what the above has to do with the wishes mentioned earlier.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Dec 26, 7:07�am, John H. wrote:
to any who may celebrate same.
--
John H

According to Google, about 1200 people have read at least one thing or
posted something to rec.boats over the years. I would personally guess
that the number of folks participating here regularly is 25-50. Maybe
some of those folks are African American, and Kwanzaa is a recently
introduced African American (rather than traditional African) holiday
celebration. I suspect that most observers of Kwanzaa also celebrate
Christmas, but wouldn't be able to substantiate that as a fact.

Minorities in general are under-represented in the boating community.
My personal opinion is that it has more to do with economic
opportunity
than with any blatant discrimination. Owning anything larger than an
old rowboat becomes an expensive proposition, (as any boater well
knows). While there are more poor white people in America than poor
people of any other ethnicity, minorities are disproportionately
represented among the poor when compared to the various percentages of
the general population.

Reasons for the disparate economic opportunites that keep boating less
diverse than many other activities can include recent immigration to
the US. First and second generations arriving here are often less
fluent in English and therefore have less access to higher education
or better paying jobs.There will probably always be some racial
discrimination, (even if subtle), that requires many people of color
to "super achieve" in order to be afforded some of the same respect
that we in the largest ethnic group take for granted.

I'd like to see more diversity among boaters, but to become an
economically colorblind society we do need to work toward assuring
that race, religion, gender, etc are not used (in *any* manner) when
apportioning educational or economic opportunities.

Chuckle. Merry Christmas Chuck. Be careful stepping off your soap box.

On Dec 26, 10:01Â*am, "Jim" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Dec 26, 7:07�am, John H. wrote:

to any who may celebrate same.
--
John H

According to Google, about 1200 people have read at least one thing or
posted something to rec.boats over the years. I would personally guess
that the number of folks participating here regularly is 25-50. Maybe
some of those folks are African American, and Kwanzaa is a recently
introduced African American (rather than traditional African) holiday
celebration. I suspect that most observers of Kwanzaa also celebrate
Christmas, but wouldn't be able to substantiate that as a fact.

Minorities in general are under-represented in the boating community.
My personal opinion is that it has more to do with economic
opportunity
than with any blatant discrimination. Owning anything larger than an
old rowboat becomes an expensive proposition, (as any boater well
knows). While there are more poor white people in America than poor
people of any other ethnicity, minorities are disproportionately
represented among the poor when compared to the various percentages of
the general population.

Reasons for the disparate economic opportunites that keep boating less
diverse than many other activities can include recent immigration to
the US. First and second generations arriving here are often less
fluent in English and therefore have less access to higher education
or better paying jobs.There will probably always be some racial
discrimination, (even if subtle), that requires many people of color
to "super achieve" in order to be afforded some of the same respect
that we in the largest ethnic group take for granted.

I'd like to see more diversity among boaters, but to become an
economically colorblind society we do need to work toward assuring
that race, religion, gender, etc are not used (in *any* manner) when
apportioning educational or economic opportunities.

Chuckle. Merry Christmas Chuck. Be careful stepping off your soap box.

Merry Christmas, Jim. My soap box has a non-skid deck, :-)

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...


According to Google, about 1200 people have read at least one thing or
posted something to rec.boats over the years. I would personally guess
that the number of folks participating here regularly is 25-50. Maybe
some of those folks are African American, and Kwanzaa is a recently
introduced African American (rather than traditional African) holiday
celebration. I suspect that most observers of Kwanzaa also celebrate
Christmas, but wouldn't be able to substantiate that as a fact.

Minorities in general are under-represented in the boating community.
My personal opinion is that it has more to do with economic
opportunity
than with any blatant discrimination. Owning anything larger than an
old rowboat becomes an expensive proposition, (as any boater well
knows). While there are more poor white people in America than poor
people of any other ethnicity, minorities are disproportionately
represented among the poor when compared to the various percentages of
the general population.

Reasons for the disparate economic opportunites that keep boating less
diverse than many other activities can include recent immigration to
the US. First and second generations arriving here are often less
fluent in English and therefore have less access to higher education
or better paying jobs.There will probably always be some racial
discrimination, (even if subtle), that requires many people of color
to "super achieve" in order to be afforded some of the same respect
that we in the largest ethnic group take for granted.

I'd like to see more diversity among boaters, but to become an
economically colorblind society we do need to work toward assuring
that race, religion, gender, etc are not used (in *any* manner) when
apportioning educational or economic opportunities.


Okey, dokey, I'll do my part.

I'll convert to Yoruba with a specialty as a Rainmaker. I'll head south and
seek my fortunes causing cloudbursts over Lake Lanier.

You can be a Miwok and claim to be an ancestor of a turkey buzzard killed by
a coyote.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:


I'd like to see more diversity among boaters, but to become an
economically colorblind society we do need to work toward assuring
that race, religion, gender, etc are not used (in *any* manner) when
apportioning educational or economic opportunities.


Okey, dokey, I'll do my part.

I'll convert to Yoruba with a specialty as a Rainmaker. I'll head south and
seek my fortunes causing cloudbursts over Lake Lanier.

You can be a Miwok and claim to be an ancestor of a turkey buzzard killed by
a coyote.

Eisboch



I want to be penelope cruz' beach towel.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:45:41 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

I'd like to see more diversity among boaters, but to become an
economically colorblind society we do need to work toward assuring
that race, religion, gender, etc are not used (in *any* manner) when
apportioning educational or economic opportunities.


Okey, dokey, I'll do my part.

I'll convert to Yoruba with a specialty as a Rainmaker. I'll head south and
seek my fortunes causing cloudbursts over Lake Lanier.

You can be a Miwok and claim to be an ancestor of a turkey buzzard killed by
a coyote.

I too will do my part.

I shall convert to the god Avrikiti in the Fon belief system.

Anybody have a rooster I can sacrifice?

That's three of us - does that qualify as a minority?

Eisboch wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

According to Google, about 1200 people have read at least one thing or
posted something to rec.boats over the years. I would personally guess
that the number of folks participating here regularly is 25-50. Maybe
some of those folks are African American, and Kwanzaa is a recently
introduced African American (rather than traditional African) holiday
celebration. I suspect that most observers of Kwanzaa also celebrate
Christmas, but wouldn't be able to substantiate that as a fact.

Minorities in general are under-represented in the boating community.
My personal opinion is that it has more to do with economic
opportunity
than with any blatant discrimination. Owning anything larger than an
old rowboat becomes an expensive proposition, (as any boater well
knows). While there are more poor white people in America than poor
people of any other ethnicity, minorities are disproportionately
represented among the poor when compared to the various percentages of
the general population.

Reasons for the disparate economic opportunites that keep boating less
diverse than many other activities can include recent immigration to
the US. First and second generations arriving here are often less
fluent in English and therefore have less access to higher education
or better paying jobs.There will probably always be some racial
discrimination, (even if subtle), that requires many people of color
to "super achieve" in order to be afforded some of the same respect
that we in the largest ethnic group take for granted.

I'd like to see more diversity among boaters, but to become an
economically colorblind society we do need to work toward assuring
that race, religion, gender, etc are not used (in *any* manner) when
apportioning educational or economic opportunities.


Okey, dokey, I'll do my part.

I'll convert to Yoruba with a specialty as a Rainmaker. I'll head south and
seek my fortunes causing cloudbursts over Lake Lanier.


I think someone beat you to the punch, we had 3 days of rain last week.