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Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Nov 30, 12:49 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:rkg0l3d4r5dd0qav1ego0n05okvc0us10m@4ax .com... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie, indeed! Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade". In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish. What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting. He'll learn. I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :) I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Me too;) He was a little miffed. And T is not really one to wear it on his sleeve. Anyway, to my notice he was somewhere between the time I hooked the lobster pot, to the time an unmarked rock pile took out the 4 blade, ss prop....;( |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
wrote in message ... On Nov 30, 2:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:sgg0l355ke1v41c5pt8sdooaav5ikc07vo@4ax .com... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:14:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 29, 6:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote: On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Damn - I never knew that. Yes you did;) And I'll tell y'all another thing...... If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............ Wow - that's really informative. Do you also use a rod with a reel or just a cane pole? :) Both will work! It's an amazing thing. The weight actually makes the lure/bait sink...... I've seen it with my own eyes! Well, then I guess it's true. Stones worked great years ago, and probably work well now. As well as sparkplugs. We used to use sparkplugs casting into the rocky area of the Pacific shoreline as they were cheap and you put them on a dropper and saved the rest of rig when you snagged. As to the rocks, a few years ago when we were traveling in Italy, we went to the fishing museum on Lake Trasimeno. They had bronze hooks from the Romans as well as weights that were a worked circle of rocks that were recovered from the lake bottom, We a really interesting museum. Lake was a large shallow body of water, that looked nasty. Talked to a couple of guys that had been bass fishing, and loading an about 16' Tracker bass boat. Cost them about 2x what they cost here. I think the website for the museum ishttp://www.museodellapesca.ch/ .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Let's have a little contest then, Bill. You use stones and sparkplugs for weight, I'll use what I want and we'll go bass fishing and see who has the best results........ Not all of us just fish for bass. You surf fish the rocks of the ocean and you may not be able to fund your IRA after buying all those expensive weights. Lots of my bass fishing, is with weightless Senkos and if I add weight I use a small nail. Still pretty cheap for the weight. Wish I could say the same for the Senko. |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:19:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: wrote: Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie, would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;( I hate to tell you this, but I very very rarely fish, and even I wouldn't do that. ~~ snerk ~~ |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:19:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: wrote: Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie, would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;( I hate to tell you this, but I very very rarely fish, and even I wouldn't do that. ~~ snerk ~~ You don't believe me? Is that it? Do you want a piece of me? or if I misread your snerk, Never mind. |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie, indeed! Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade". In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish. What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting. He'll learn. I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :) I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'! Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do? |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan
wrote: Don White wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie, indeed! Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade". In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish. What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting. He'll learn. I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :) I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'! Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do? Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened. Just ask Scott. :) I take my fishing very seriously. |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan wrote: Don White wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie, indeed! Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade". In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish. What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting. He'll learn. I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :) I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'! Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do? Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened. Just ask Scott. :) I take my fishing very seriously. Maybe you could invite Dingy Dan along sometime. I'd pay admission to see him swim home. |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Nov 30, 8:40 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan wrote: Don White wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie, indeed! Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade". In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish. What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting. He'll learn. I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :) I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'! Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do? Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened. Just ask Scott. :) I take my fishing very seriously.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And I usually don't;) Fishing for me is fun, if I catch a fish, ah, whatever. But I do admit that I was pretty upset to lose that largemouth, I am guessing he was over 4 pounds. I would have prepared him with lemon and a fresh brewed pilsner;) |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
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Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Nov 30, 4:28 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Nov 30, 2:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:sgg0l355ke1v41c5pt8sdooaav5ikc07vo@4ax .com... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:14:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 29, 6:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote: On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Damn - I never knew that. Yes you did;) And I'll tell y'all another thing...... If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............ Wow - that's really informative. Do you also use a rod with a reel or just a cane pole? :) Both will work! It's an amazing thing. The weight actually makes the lure/bait sink...... I've seen it with my own eyes! Well, then I guess it's true. Stones worked great years ago, and probably work well now. As well as sparkplugs. We used to use sparkplugs casting into the rocky area of the Pacific shoreline as they were cheap and you put them on a dropper and saved the rest of rig when you snagged. As to the rocks, a few years ago when we were traveling in Italy, we went to the fishing museum on Lake Trasimeno. They had bronze hooks from the Romans as well as weights that were a worked circle of rocks that were recovered from the lake bottom, We a really interesting museum. Lake was a large shallow body of water, that looked nasty. Talked to a couple of guys that had been bass fishing, and loading an about 16' Tracker bass boat. Cost them about 2x what they cost here. I think the website for the museum ishttp://www.museodellapesca.ch/.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Let's have a little contest then, Bill. You use stones and sparkplugs for weight, I'll use what I want and we'll go bass fishing and see who has the best results........ Not all of us just fish for bass. You surf fish the rocks of the ocean and you may not be able to fund your IRA after buying all those expensive weights. Lots of my bass fishing, is with weightless Senkos and if I add weight I use a small nail. Still pretty cheap for the weight. Wish I could say the same for the Senko.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bass Pro Shops has a clone of Senko that I like even better. Not that I use them all of the time, but..... Again, if you want to go surf fishing with sparkplugs, have at it! |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
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Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
"HK" wrote in message . .. Not to worry; I don't take fishing very seriously anymore, either. I know how to catch fish and do when I feel like it, for the most part, but certain kinds of fishing really have no appeal for me these days. I like sight fishing most of all, and if I find some interesting bottom structure, I like jigging and drifting over the structure. I like drift fishing with live bait. But anchoring to bottom fish, or trolling umbrella rigs? Nah. Go catch a 400lb tuna. Eisboch |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Not to worry; I don't take fishing very seriously anymore, either. I know how to catch fish and do when I feel like it, for the most part, but certain kinds of fishing really have no appeal for me these days. I like sight fishing most of all, and if I find some interesting bottom structure, I like jigging and drifting over the structure. I like drift fishing with live bait. But anchoring to bottom fish, or trolling umbrella rigs? Nah. Go catch a 400lb tuna. Eisboch And then what? Fillet it? |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Not to worry; I don't take fishing very seriously anymore, either. I know how to catch fish and do when I feel like it, for the most part, but certain kinds of fishing really have no appeal for me these days. I like sight fishing most of all, and if I find some interesting bottom structure, I like jigging and drifting over the structure. I like drift fishing with live bait. But anchoring to bottom fish, or trolling umbrella rigs? Nah. Go catch a 400lb tuna. Eisboch And then what? Fillet it? You betcha. Give half away to friends with instructions on how to grill fresh. Chow down yourself. Freeze the rest and enjoy all winter. Eisboch |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Not to worry; I don't take fishing very seriously anymore, either. I know how to catch fish and do when I feel like it, for the most part, but certain kinds of fishing really have no appeal for me these days. I like sight fishing most of all, and if I find some interesting bottom structure, I like jigging and drifting over the structure. I like drift fishing with live bait. But anchoring to bottom fish, or trolling umbrella rigs? Nah. Go catch a 400lb tuna. Eisboch And then what? Fillet it? You betcha. Give half away to friends with instructions on how to grill fresh. Chow down yourself. Freeze the rest and enjoy all winter. Eisboch I don't eat frozen/thawed fish. |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
"HK" wrote in message . .. I don't eat frozen/thawed fish. The charter guys have one of those "seal-a-meal" vacuum bagger things that they bring to the boat. The filets that aren't going to be immediately consumed are put in them, iced down, then transported to the freezer. I never had tried any preserved this way and was amazed at how fresh it was 2 months later. Eisboch |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
HK wrote:
I don't eat frozen/thawed fish. So you don't eat in restaurants? Few have fresh fish and those that do won't have it out of season. |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
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Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:40:41 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 07:47:41 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 30, 4:28 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: wrote in message Not all of us just fish for bass. You surf fish the rocks of the ocean and you may not be able to fund your IRA after buying all those expensive weights. Lots of my bass fishing, is with weightless Senkos and if I add weight I use a small nail. Still pretty cheap for the weight. Wish I could say the same for the Senko.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bass Pro Shops has a clone of Senko that I like even better. Not that I use them all of the time, but..... Again, if you want to go surf fishing with sparkplugs, have at it! Not bass, but when I was at St Pete Beach a couple months ago there was German kid, about 8 years old, who hooked a maybe 4 foot tarpon at the beach. He had one of those dimestore Zebco rigs, and my wife and his family walked about 200 yards down the beach trying to land it. His dad looked exactly like Adolph Hitler, but no mustache. The fish never ran out, but down the beach in a couple feet of water, very light surf. I kept my mouth shut, as the kid was doing a good job on the drag with Adolph's instructions. The fish finally lost the hook, but the kid - and me - had a good experience to remember. Luckily there were few swimmers, and they were deeper than where the fish was running. I think the kid said he was using a spark plug as weight, but my German isn't too good. --Vic If he was yelling, "Meine Zündkerze springt auf dem Boden!" then he was saying, "My spark plug is bouncing off the bottom!" With a four-foot tarpon trying to escape, it sounds like something the kid may have said. -- John H |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:47:37 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote: On Nov 30, 8:40 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan wrote: Don White wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie, indeed! Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade". In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish. What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting. He'll learn. I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :) I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'! Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do? Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened. Just ask Scott. :) I take my fishing very seriously.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And I usually don't;) Fishing for me is fun, if I catch a fish, ah, whatever. But I do admit that I was pretty upset to lose that largemouth, I am guessing he was over 4 pounds. I would have prepared him with lemon and a fresh brewed pilsner;) Not to worry; I don't take fishing very seriously anymore, either. I know how to catch fish and do when I feel like it, for the most part, but certain kinds of fishing really have no appeal for me these days. I like sight fishing most of all, and if I find some interesting bottom structure, I like jigging and drifting over the structure. I like drift fishing with live bait. But anchoring to bottom fish, or trolling umbrella rigs? Nah. Harry, if you had eight rod holders, you'd find trolling much more interesting! -- John H |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:05:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Not to worry; I don't take fishing very seriously anymore, either. I know how to catch fish and do when I feel like it, for the most part, but certain kinds of fishing really have no appeal for me these days. I like sight fishing most of all, and if I find some interesting bottom structure, I like jigging and drifting over the structure. I like drift fishing with live bait. But anchoring to bottom fish, or trolling umbrella rigs? Nah. Go catch a 400lb tuna. Eisboch Where? -- John H |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 07:40:38 -0500, John H.
wrote: If he was yelling, "Meine Zündkerze springt auf dem Boden!" then he was saying, "My spark plug is bouncing off the bottom!" With a four-foot tarpon trying to escape, it sounds like something the kid may have said. Hey! That's what he was saying! ----Vic |
Knowing Right Bass Fishing Techniques Improves Catches
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:09:53 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 07:40:38 -0500, John H. wrote: If he was yelling, "Meine Zündkerze springt auf dem Boden!" then he was saying, "My spark plug is bouncing off the bottom!" With a four-foot tarpon trying to escape, it sounds like something the kid may have said. Hey! That's what he was saying! ----Vic Well, there you go!! -- John H |
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