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HK November 19th 07 03:55 PM

Bush's Thanksgiving Thanks
 
Bush Issues "Thankfulness List"
Pre-Thanksgiving Radio Address

In a special pre-Thanksgiving radio address broadcast from the White
House, President George W. Bush asked his fellow Americans to join him
in giving thanks for the following things:

“My fellow Americans, let’s be thankful for global warming, because as
these winter months approach, it makes the world such a nice, toasty place.

“Let’s be thankful for all of the food on our tables, unless some of it
is from China.

“Let’s be thankful that Pakistan will have free and fair elections, and
maybe someday we will, too.

“Let’s be thankful for the iPhone, except for those losers who actually
paid full price for it.

“Let’s be grateful that I didn’t take out a subprime mortgage on the
White House like Mr. Cheney told me to.

“Let's be thankful that nuclear weapons haven’t fallen into the hands of
the wrong people, like Nancy Pelosi or Rosie O’Donnell.

“Let’s be thankful that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert’s writers are on
strike, and hopefully will stay that way for the rest of my term in office.

“Let's be thankful that even though my approval numbers are falling,
they’re still higher than my grades at Yale.

“Let’s be thankful that Osama bin Laden dyed his hair in his last video,
because that made him look really gay.

“Let's be thankful for Guitar Hero III, which really helps you get
through those long Cabinet meetings when they're going on and on about
the economy.

“Let's be thankful that our military commanders have nothing bad to say
about the war in Iraq until after they’re retired.

“Let's be thankful that in nine months it will be August and then I can
go on summer vacation again.

“And finally, my fellow Americans, let's be thankful that, even though
Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize, I’m still a lock for the Nobel War
Prize.”

Andy Borowitz

John H. November 19th 07 08:33 PM

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:55:39 -0500, HK wrote some
more political ****:

Harry, you seem fond of directing others to appropriate newsgroups. Have
you ever thought of taking your crap there also? The folks over in
alt.politics would love to chat with someone as knowledgeable as you.

Dan November 20th 07 01:36 AM

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JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:55:39 -0500, HK wrote some
more political ****:

Harry, you seem fond of directing others to appropriate newsgroups. Have
you ever thought of taking your crap there also? The folks over in
alt.politics would love to chat with someone as knowledgeable as you.



John.

You and Reggie are the only ones who seem to posting all the crap here and
then stirring the pot.

Please take another Disney Cruise.......please!



Would you classify this as crap?:

Bush Issues "Thankfulness List"
Pre-Thanksgiving Radio Address

In a special pre-Thanksgiving radio address broadcast from the White
House, President George W. Bush asked his fellow Americans to join him
in giving thanks for the following things:

“My fellow Americans, let’s be thankful for global warming, because as
these winter months approach, it makes the world such a nice, toasty place.

“Let’s be thankful for all of the food on our tables, unless some of it
is from China.

“Let’s be thankful that Pakistan will have free and fair elections, and
maybe someday we will, too.

“Let’s be thankful for the iPhone, except for those losers who actually
paid full price for it.

“Let’s be grateful that I didn’t take out a subprime mortgage on the
White House like Mr. Cheney told me to.

“Let's be thankful that nuclear weapons haven’t fallen into the hands of
the wrong people, like Nancy Pelosi or Rosie O’Donnell.

“Let’s be thankful that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert’s writers are on
strike, and hopefully will stay that way for the rest of my term in office.

“Let's be thankful that even though my approval numbers are falling,
they’re still higher than my grades at Yale.

“Let’s be thankful that Osama bin Laden dyed his hair in his last video,
because that made him look really gay.

“Let's be thankful for Guitar Hero III, which really helps you get
through those long Cabinet meetings when they're going on and on about
the economy.

“Let's be thankful that our military commanders have nothing bad to say
about the war in Iraq until after they’re retired.

“Let's be thankful that in nine months it will be August and then I can
go on summer vacation again.

“And finally, my fellow Americans, let's be thankful that, even though
Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize, I’m still a lock for the Nobel War
Prize.”

Andy Borowitz

Chuck Gould November 20th 07 03:01 AM

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On Nov 19, 7:55 am, HK wrote:
Bush Issues "Thankfulness List"
Pre-Thanksgiving Radio Address

In a special pre-Thanksgiving radio address broadcast from the White
House, President George W. Bush asked his fellow Americans to join him
in giving thanks for the following things:

"My fellow Americans, let's be thankful for global warming, because as
these winter months approach, it makes the world such a nice, toasty place.

"Let's be thankful for all of the food on our tables, unless some of it
is from China.

"Let's be thankful that Pakistan will have free and fair elections, and
maybe someday we will, too.

"Let's be thankful for the iPhone, except for those losers who actually
paid full price for it.

"Let's be grateful that I didn't take out a subprime mortgage on the
White House like Mr. Cheney told me to.

"Let's be thankful that nuclear weapons haven't fallen into the hands of
the wrong people, like Nancy Pelosi or Rosie O'Donnell.

"Let's be thankful that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert's writers are on
strike, and hopefully will stay that way for the rest of my term in office.

"Let's be thankful that even though my approval numbers are falling,
they're still higher than my grades at Yale.

"Let's be thankful that Osama bin Laden dyed his hair in his last video,
because that made him look really gay.

"Let's be thankful for Guitar Hero III, which really helps you get
through those long Cabinet meetings when they're going on and on about
the economy.

"Let's be thankful that our military commanders have nothing bad to say
about the war in Iraq until after they're retired.

"Let's be thankful that in nine months it will be August and then I can
go on summer vacation again.

"And finally, my fellow Americans, let's be thankful that, even though
Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize, I'm still a lock for the Nobel War
Prize."

Andy Borowitz




Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.

Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.

This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! At least not in
a boating NG)

When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.

Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)

HK November 20th 07 12:31 PM

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John H. wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Political trash snipped.
Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.

Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.

This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! At least not in
a boating NG)

When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.

Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?

Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?



Only 427 days left in the most incompetent administration in US history.

BAR November 20th 07 12:35 PM

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HK wrote:
John H. wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Political trash snipped.
Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.

Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.

This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! At least not in
a boating NG)

When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.

Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?

Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?



Only 427 days left in the most incompetent administration in US history.


Why are the Democrats running against Bush? He is not running.

Why don't the Democrats tell us what they will do if they become President?




Vic Smith November 20th 07 12:58 PM

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:30:33 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?


You mean like "Laura says he has a cute nose."
Or other stuff?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to him pardoning the turkey.
Shows his heart.

--Vic

[email protected] November 20th 07 01:02 PM

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On Nov 20, 8:30 am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:

Political trash snipped.







Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.


Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.


This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! At least not in
a boating NG)


When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.


Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?

Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


There is none, it is just bull****..

[email protected] November 20th 07 01:02 PM

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On Nov 20, 7:31 am, HK wrote:
John H. wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:


Political trash snipped.
Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.


Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.


This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! At least not in
a boating NG)


When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.


Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?


Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?


Only 427 days left in the most incompetent administration in US history.


I think you mean congress

DownTime November 20th 07 01:03 PM

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HK wrote:
Only 427 days left in the most incompetent administration in US history.


And the claim to fame for the previous administration was what again?
Adultery? Ignoring world terrorism threats? Failure to do much of
anything worthwhile?

Do you have any links or sites to prove 'the most...' aspect of that
statement ?

[email protected] November 20th 07 01:09 PM

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On Nov 20, 8:03 am, DownTime wrote:
HK wrote:
Only 427 days left in the most incompetent administration in US history.


And the claim to fame for the previous administration was what again?
Adultery? Ignoring world terrorism threats? Failure to do much of
anything worthwhile?

Do you have any links or sites to prove 'the most...' aspect of that
statement ?


Don't forget selling our rocket and nuke science to the Chineese
military wing, ignoring Korea while they stole our money and printed
it too, and the hundreds of voting and campaign finance issues, and of
course the murders of Vince Foster, Ron Brown, etc...

[email protected] November 20th 07 01:11 PM

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:03:56 -0500, DownTime wrote:


Do you have any links or sites to prove 'the most...' aspect of that
statement ?


Well, if you put Bush "most incompetent" in Google, you'll get 62,000
links.

Lu Powell November 20th 07 01:20 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
[extra stuff snipped]

Only 427 days left in the most incompetent administration in US
history.


Second most.



John H. November 20th 07 01:30 PM

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Political trash snipped.

Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.

Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.

This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! At least not in
a boating NG)

When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.

Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?

Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?


DownTime November 20th 07 01:38 PM

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wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:03:56 -0500, DownTime wrote:


Do you have any links or sites to prove 'the most...' aspect of that
statement ?


Well, if you put Bush "most incompetent" in Google, you'll get 62,000
links.


Guess what Google just gave me?

"Results 1 - 10 of about 769,000 for clinton adultery. (0.13 seconds)"

Beat your Googlin by over 1000%

HK November 20th 07 01:44 PM

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DownTime wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:03:56 -0500, DownTime wrote:


Do you have any links or sites to prove 'the most...' aspect of that
statement ?


Well, if you put Bush "most incompetent" in Google, you'll get 62,000
links.


Guess what Google just gave me?

"Results 1 - 10 of about 769,000 for clinton adultery. (0.13 seconds)"

Beat your Googlin by over 1000%



I always get a chuck out of those sorts of comparisons...

"Bush started a war." "But Clinton got a blowjob!"

"Bush sent 3800 Americans to die in Iraq." "But Clinton got a blowjob!"

et cetera.

Obviously, the Republican "base" thinks nothing of sending people off to
die in a political war, but are horrified, just horrified, by the idea
of a blowjob. Or lying about a blowjob.


DownTime November 20th 07 02:00 PM

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HK wrote:
Obviously, the Republican "base" thinks nothing of sending people off to
die in a political war, but are horrified, just horrified, by the idea
of a blowjob. Or lying about a blowjob.


I am not horrified by it, but you started the 'incompetence' thread.
Clinton is a liar. Show me a politician who doesn't lie and I'll donate
to their campaign.

I hate us being in this war, I'd vote to bring all the troops home NOW
and be done with it.

Now there's a whole list of other issues Clinton mismanaged that are not
exactly shining moments of his administration. Clinton didn't go to war,
but he had the chance to prevent it along time ago. He failed to act &
respond at that time.

Don White November 20th 07 02:05 PM

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"DownTime" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:03:56 -0500, DownTime wrote:


Do you have any links or sites to prove 'the most...' aspect of that
statement ?


Well, if you put Bush "most incompetent" in Google, you'll get 62,000
links.


Guess what Google just gave me?

"Results 1 - 10 of about 769,000 for clinton adultery. (0.13 seconds)"

Beat your Googlin by over 1000%



You guys sure do need a three party system......... some kind of real choice
from the usual fare.



DownTime November 20th 07 02:17 PM

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Don White wrote:
You guys sure do need a three party system......... some kind of real choice
from the usual fare.

We have other candidates, but the reality is they don't stand much of a
chance in the current system. Part of the problem, those who are truly
the most qualified for the job, more than likely want nothing to do with
the 'politics' of it all.


Chuck Gould November 20th 07 02:21 PM

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On Nov 20, 5:30�am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:

Political trash snipped.







Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.


Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.


This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! �At least not in
a boating NG)


When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.


Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?

Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I didn't say the pro-bush crowd *had* posted, only that posts like
Harry's "issue free license" to do so. The Bush fans are showing more
maturity and restraint. So far. However, we can be pretty sure that
when the Bush fans (or the similarly inclined) want to trot out a
political screed Harry's anti-bush post will be cited as an excuse for
doing so. That's the way logic works in the NG- no matter how poorly
party A behaves he or she should be excused if party B did something
similar.

If this were the only forum on the web, it would be understandable
that people would discuss a long list of non-boating subjects here,
but it isn't.


Lu Powell November 20th 07 02:25 PM

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"DownTime" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:03:56 -0500, DownTime wrote:

[snip]

Guess what Google just gave me?

"Results 1 - 10 of about 769,000 for clinton adultery. (0.13 seconds)"

Beat your Googlin by over 1000%


I was thinking Carter.



Reginald Smithers III November 20th 07 02:32 PM

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Chuck Gould wrote:


If this were the only forum on the web, it would be understandable
that people would discuss a long list of non-boating subjects here,
but it isn't.


Does talking about the size of one's boat and the lack of penis size
qualify as a boating topic? Since it includes the word boat, and penis
size seems to be a universal concern (Yes, size does matter), it is
probably appropriate. ;)



Chuck Gould November 20th 07 02:34 PM

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On Nov 20, 6:00�am, DownTime wrote:
HK wrote:
Obviously, the Republican "base" thinks nothing of sending people off to
die in a political war, but are horrified, just horrified, by the idea
of a blowjob. Or lying about a blowjob.


I am not horrified by it, but you started the 'incompetence' thread.
Clinton is a liar. Show me a politician who doesn't lie and I'll donate
to their campaign.

I hate us being in this war, I'd vote to bring all the troops home NOW
and be done with it.

Now there's a whole list of other issues Clinton mismanaged that are not
exactly shining moments of his administration. Clinton didn't go to war,
but he had the chance to prevent it along time ago. He failed to act &
respond at that time.


Go to an appropriate forum and refresh your memory. Without rebutting
your statement and promoting even more political argument, I will
suggest you start by looking up the response of the congressional
majority when Clinton lobbed some cruise missles at Osama bin Ladin's
training camps. See if you don't find congressional comments decrying
the cost of each missle, and a host of bitchy congressional remarks
about how BC was trying to "distract" the country from the most
pressing issue facing the nation- a blow job in the oval office and a
married man's initial denial when accused of an extra-marital sexual
encounter.

There must be dozens of sites where this subject is appropriate, and
where you could refresh your memory.

[email protected] November 20th 07 02:42 PM

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On Nov 20, 9:21 am, Chuck Gould wrote:


Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?


Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say the pro-bush crowd *had* posted, only that posts like
Harry's "issue free license" to do so.


Oh.

Eisboch November 20th 07 02:44 PM

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HK wrote:


Obviously, the Republican "base" thinks nothing of sending people off to
die in a political war, but are horrified, just horrified, by the idea of
a blowjob. Or lying about a blowjob.


There's more to the Clinton story than a simple blowjob and lying about it.
The issue that is not often discussed is this:

Before the current policy of "don't ask, don't tell", homosexuality in the
military was cause for immediate discharge. The main reason was the
potential of those with access to classified material being blackmailed by
various operatives to get information. In those days, homosexuality was not
accepted in society like it is today and those of the persuasion kept it in
the "closet" to avoid public and even family humiliation. Those of us that
were in the military in the 60's remember the lectures well.

Clinton had a lot of world credibility to lose by having an affair with a 21
year old political intern. As a married man and as POTUS he was expected to
live up to a generally accepted standard of conduct as it existed then.
Having an affair with the wrong person could have easily made him vulnerable
to blackmail. According to Lewinsky, it was not a one-time event. She
claimed that there were at least 14 "meetings" and an exchange of gifts,
etc.

It's easy to downplay the nature of his conduct now, but at the time it was
potentially serious.


Eisboch




[email protected] November 20th 07 03:08 PM

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:38:12 -0500, DownTime wrote:


Guess what Google just gave me?

"Results 1 - 10 of about 769,000 for clinton adultery. (0.13 seconds)"

Beat your Googlin by over 1000%


Interesting, Results 1 - 10 of about 1,380,000 for bush adultery. (0.20
seconds), but I guess that really isn't fair, as Bush could mean this
President, or the "Family Values" one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Fitzgerald

Chuck Gould November 20th 07 03:15 PM

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On Nov 20, 6:32�am, Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

If this were the only forum on the web, it would be understandable
that people would discuss a long list of non-boating subjects here,
but it isn't.


Does talking about the size of one's boat and the lack of penis size
qualify as a boating topic? �Since it includes the word boat, and penis
size seems to be a universal concern (Yes, size does matter), it is
probably appropriate. �;)


They come in different sizes?

All I will say is that in an active seaway no amount of LOA will save
a clumsy helmsman. Speaking of boats, of course.

DownTime November 20th 07 03:23 PM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
Go to an appropriate forum and refresh your memory. Without rebutting
your statement and promoting even more political argument, I will
suggest you start by looking up the response of the congressional
majority when Clinton lobbed some cruise missles at Osama bin Ladin's
training camps. See if you don't find congressional comments decrying
the cost of each missle, and a host of bitchy congressional remarks
about how BC was trying to "distract" the country from the most
pressing issue facing the nation- a blow job in the oval office and a
married man's initial denial when accused of an extra-marital sexual
encounter.

There must be dozens of sites where this subject is appropriate, and
where you could refresh your memory.


Chuck, point taken. I'll avoid being drawn into political discussions in
this forum going forward.

Reginald Smithers III November 20th 07 03:55 PM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:32�am, Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

If this were the only forum on the web, it would be understandable
that people would discuss a long list of non-boating subjects here,
but it isn't.

Does talking about the size of one's boat and the lack of penis size
qualify as a boating topic? �Since it includes the word boat, and penis
size seems to be a universal concern (Yes, size does matter), it is
probably appropriate. �;)


They come in different sizes?

All I will say is that in an active seaway no amount of LOA will save
a clumsy helmsman. Speaking of boats, of course.


Of course we are talking boats. As far as boats, my wife says the most
important thing is the width. I think she says "width does the trick",
she is probably talking about the ability to move furniture in the salon.

Reginald Smithers III November 20th 07 03:55 PM

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DownTime wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Go to an appropriate forum and refresh your memory. Without rebutting
your statement and promoting even more political argument, I will
suggest you start by looking up the response of the congressional
majority when Clinton lobbed some cruise missles at Osama bin Ladin's
training camps. See if you don't find congressional comments decrying
the cost of each missle, and a host of bitchy congressional remarks
about how BC was trying to "distract" the country from the most
pressing issue facing the nation- a blow job in the oval office and a
married man's initial denial when accused of an extra-marital sexual
encounter.

There must be dozens of sites where this subject is appropriate, and
where you could refresh your memory.


Chuck, point taken. I'll avoid being drawn into political discussions in
this forum going forward.


Down,
It is hard, especially when they jiggle the bait just right.


DownTime November 20th 07 04:35 PM

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Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Down,
It is hard, especially when they jiggle the bait just right.


Heck, I've ben falling for about any bait used. Topwater, sinking, live,
cut, you name it. I think a stinkbait even got me once.

Now if i could just get them redfish & snook to cooperate in Thursday,
I'll be mighty thankful...

John H. November 20th 07 08:07 PM

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:58:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:30:33 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?


You mean like "Laura says he has a cute nose."
Or other stuff?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to him pardoning the turkey.
Shows his heart.

--Vic


I mean like the stuff to which Chuck referred.

John H. November 20th 07 08:09 PM

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:34:23 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 20, 6:00?am, DownTime wrote:
HK wrote:
Obviously, the Republican "base" thinks nothing of sending people off to
die in a political war, but are horrified, just horrified, by the idea
of a blowjob. Or lying about a blowjob.


I am not horrified by it, but you started the 'incompetence' thread.
Clinton is a liar. Show me a politician who doesn't lie and I'll donate
to their campaign.

I hate us being in this war, I'd vote to bring all the troops home NOW
and be done with it.

Now there's a whole list of other issues Clinton mismanaged that are not
exactly shining moments of his administration. Clinton didn't go to war,
but he had the chance to prevent it along time ago. He failed to act &
respond at that time.


Go to an appropriate forum and refresh your memory. Without rebutting
your statement and promoting even more political argument, I will
suggest you start by looking up the response of the congressional
majority when Clinton lobbed some cruise missles at Osama bin Ladin's
training camps. See if you don't find congressional comments decrying
the cost of each missle, and a host of bitchy congressional remarks
about how BC was trying to "distract" the country from the most
pressing issue facing the nation- a blow job in the oval office and a
married man's initial denial when accused of an extra-marital sexual
encounter.

There must be dozens of sites where this subject is appropriate, and
where you could refresh your memory.


If you'll notice, most of the political crap, including the post above,
started after your political post earlier.

John H. November 20th 07 08:12 PM

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:21:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 20, 5:30?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:01:00 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:

Political trash snipped.







Every time somebody trots something like this out and into the NG, it
issues free license for all the Bush supporters (or the similarly
inclined) to cut and paste the latest "talking points" from the same
couple of sources and then all hell breaks loose.


Every aspect of life doesn't have to revolve around politics or
political argument, but when you are Jonesing for a political fist
fight there are a bunch of sites set up exactly for that purpose.


This is supposed to be a boating NG. We can and should discuss boats
without giving a schlitz about who voted for whom in 2004, who is
going to vote for whom in 2008. (Heck, if one of the longshots pulls
it out in the home stretch I might even vote Republican for the first
time since in 20 or 30 years....but *NOBODY* cares!! ?At least not in
a boating NG)


When I am talking with a fellow boater across a dock or at a yacht
club meeting, we can discuss a million boating related subjects and
never get into, "Are you a Democrat or a Republican? Who did you vote
for in '04?" In fact, people would think it pretty strange if one
wanted to take the conversation off in that direction.


Rec BOATS, not rec Votes. :-)


I've seen no cut and pastes here from any Bush supporter. Have you?

Harry posted his usual anti-Bush rhetoric and his post got what it
deserved. Where is the 'pro-Bush stuff to which you refer?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I didn't say the pro-bush crowd *had* posted, only that posts like
Harry's "issue free license" to do so. The Bush fans are showing more
maturity and restraint. So far. However, we can be pretty sure that
when the Bush fans (or the similarly inclined) want to trot out a
political screed Harry's anti-bush post will be cited as an excuse for
doing so. That's the way logic works in the NG- no matter how poorly
party A behaves he or she should be excused if party B did something
similar.

If this were the only forum on the web, it would be understandable
that people would discuss a long list of non-boating subjects here,
but it isn't.


Horse****, Chuck.


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