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Short Wave Sportfishing November 16th 07 12:52 AM

And this is the reason...
 
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:15:18 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 15, 3:49?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.


I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.


May be a CT law, or lack of one.
Laws in NY and elsewhere may differ from those in your home state.


Which is not to say that I mind paying sales tax, but in CT, it's
freakin ridiculous the way it's calculated.

For example, if I buy a liter bottle of soda, the way the tax is
calculated is after the nickel deposit - so essentially, you pay tax
not only on the sale of the liter bottle of soda, but the nickel
deposit.

Gasoline tax is even more egregious. You pay state use tax and
federal tax and then the little item known as Gross Receipts Tax which
is basically paying taxes on the taxes already imposed.

There are other examples in this state from electricity bills to
certain exemptions which nobody knows about unless you have two
degrees in accounting and a lawyer.

However, the point was the silly statement about paying taxes - I mean
a tax isn't a tax until you pay it?

Honest to pete. It's the definition of is all over again. :)

HK November 16th 07 12:53 AM

And this is the reason...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:00:28 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.
I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.

If you order merchandise from a company on the internet with retail stores
in your State you definitely will pay sales tax.......period.


I understand that.

I don't buy from stores that have a physical presence in my state.



You still living in Catatonia?

:}

Wayne.B November 16th 07 01:24 AM

And this is the reason...
 
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:49:39 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.


Ditto, unless they are in the same state.

Don White November 16th 07 01:34 AM

And this is the reason...
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:32:38 GMT, BillP penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.


As long as your not buying from a store with a presence in your state
you'll
never pay any sales tax, it's illegal.


You don't have any better grasp on this than you do global warming!
Please research the term "use tax."

Also see(for example):
http://www.maine.gov/revenue/salesuse/usetax.pdf
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/64i-2.htm
http://www.arkansas.gov/dfa/rules/et2006_9.pdf



BillP is wrong again?? We'd better start keeping score.



BillP November 16th 07 02:29 AM

And this is the reason...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 15, 4:32?pm, "BillP" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:inmpj3dh56dkht4tpabvc0k3m4ofofhreb@4ax .com...

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:


Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.


I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.


Ever.


As long as your not buying from a store with a presence in your state
you'll
never pay any sales tax, it's illegal.



Somebody better tell Amazon.com. They don't operate a single retail
store anywhere, yet there are four states that require Amazon to
collect sales tax on shipments.

Details:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...?nodeId=468512


Maybe you should try reading the "details"

The only states Amazon charges sales tax are for the states in which they
have a presence (KS, KY, ND and WA) .
They are registered with each of those states as Amazon.com LLC.



BillP November 16th 07 02:37 AM

And this is the reason...
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:32:38 GMT, BillP penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.


As long as your not buying from a store with a presence in your state
you'll
never pay any sales tax, it's illegal.


You don't have any better grasp on this than you do global warming!
Please research the term "use tax."

Also see(for example):
http://www.maine.gov/revenue/salesuse/usetax.pdf
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/64i-2.htm
http://www.arkansas.gov/dfa/rules/et2006_9.pdf


Your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.
A "use tax" is not a sales tax, and it can not be collected from a company
that does not have a presence in the state in which the goods were sold. In
Shortwaves case *he* is supposed to inform his state of all goods he
purchased from outside sources and pay the required tax himself. It is
illegal for the merchant outside of his state to collect it, or any tax.



BillP November 16th 07 02:43 AM

And this is the reason...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...


BillP is wrong again??


Nope.



Eisboch November 16th 07 06:42 AM

And this is the reason...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:00:28 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.


If you order merchandise from a company on the internet with retail stores
in your State you definitely will pay sales tax.......period.


I understand that.

I don't buy from stores that have a physical presence in my state.



I think in MA you are supposed to diligently remit to the state a 5 per cent
tax on items purchased via the Internet where a sales tax is otherwise not
collected.

I don't know of anyone who pays it though.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing November 16th 07 11:57 AM

And this is the reason...
 
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:15:59 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:52:14 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:15:18 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 15, 3:49?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.

May be a CT law, or lack of one.
Laws in NY and elsewhere may differ from those in your home state.


Which is not to say that I mind paying sales tax, but in CT, it's
freakin ridiculous the way it's calculated.

For example, if I buy a liter bottle of soda, the way the tax is
calculated is after the nickel deposit - so essentially, you pay tax
not only on the sale of the liter bottle of soda, but the nickel
deposit.

Gasoline tax is even more egregious. You pay state use tax and
federal tax and then the little item known as Gross Receipts Tax which
is basically paying taxes on the taxes already imposed.

There are other examples in this state from electricity bills to
certain exemptions which nobody knows about unless you have two
degrees in accounting and a lawyer.

However, the point was the silly statement about paying taxes - I mean
a tax isn't a tax until you pay it?

Honest to pete. It's the definition of is all over again. :)


This is going to break your heart.....

http://www.ct.gov/drs/cwp/view.asp?a=1510&q=300882&drsPNavCtr=|#40860


Know all about it.

Just another example of how the tax system in this state is broke.

JoeSpareBedroom November 16th 07 12:47 PM

And this is the reason...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:15:18 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 15, 3:49?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.


May be a CT law, or lack of one.
Laws in NY and elsewhere may differ from those in your home state.


Which is not to say that I mind paying sales tax, but in CT, it's
freakin ridiculous the way it's calculated.

For example, if I buy a liter bottle of soda, the way the tax is
calculated is after the nickel deposit - so essentially, you pay tax
not only on the sale of the liter bottle of soda, but the nickel
deposit.

Gasoline tax is even more egregious. You pay state use tax and
federal tax and then the little item known as Gross Receipts Tax which
is basically paying taxes on the taxes already imposed.


When you wrote to or spoke to your elected slob(s), what was the response?




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