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I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a
18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. |
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observer wrote in message ... I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. Looks like the smaller motors come with 6 gallon plastic tanks which I've not had good luck with. They expand during the heat of the day, which tends to permanently deform the bottom of the tank so it doesn't fit flat to the floor of the boat. Then at night, they'll suck in, further deforming. All of this expanding and contracting seems to pull in air from outside with it's moisture which the alcohol in the fuel then pulls into the gas mixture. Also, I've noticed little cracks in the plastic at the edges from the movement. Steel tanks are still available to purchase at some of the big boating retailers (catalogue and on line). I picked up a couple of used ones the other day for $5 each and they're going to replace my plastic ones Tom G. |
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observer wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:16:54 GMT, "Tom G" wrote: observer wrote in message . .. I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. Looks like the smaller motors come with 6 gallon plastic tanks which I've not had good luck with. They expand during the heat of the day, which tends to permanently deform the bottom of the tank so it doesn't fit flat to the floor of the boat. Then at night, they'll suck in, further deforming. All of this expanding and contracting seems to pull in air from outside with it's moisture which the alcohol in the fuel then pulls into the gas mixture. Also, I've noticed little cracks in the plastic at the edges from the movement. Steel tanks are still available to purchase at some of the big boating retailers (catalogue and on line). I picked up a couple of used ones the other day for $5 each and they're going to replace my plastic ones Tom G. BTW, sounds like the metal gas cans may be better for you but they aren't perfect either. Over the years the moisture can get to the bottom of the cans (welds) too tho I don't recall ours leaking at the time but I think we were aware we would at some point have to replace the rusty ones. I can't speak from experience but I guess based on what you say, maybe the metal ones last longer but not forever. I also recall the metal ones when in operation during the day do build up a lot of vapor pressure (at least they did of that decade) and when we would gas them up we opened up the caps slowly to allow them to vent the gas vapor .... and no, no one dared to smoke at that moment tho I was/am a non-smoker so no problem for me g. Had one years ago that decided to leak out though a rust hole in the bottom seam. Luckily was in the side yard at the time and not out boating that day. |
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On Nov 6, 2:09 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:50:34 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: If brains were dynamite, you apparently wouldn't have enough to blow your nose Yep. I think we could call that a "cut 'n run." -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Well, the guy did say that if you use your boat, moisture is not a problem! Maybe when he runs out of gas in the middle of a large body of water, he can **** in his tank to get home..... |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:01:10 -0600, observer wrote:
I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. Metal tanks? That goes back a ways. The late model tanks are made of a poly material with integral vents in the filler caps. They are fairly strong, but will tend to flex if left in the sun for a while if you don't have the cap vented - just like the gas can you use on your lawn equipment but not as bad as they have thicker sides. It all depends on the boat with respect to internal tanks. |
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observer wrote in message ... I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. The red plastic tanks are available in various sizes here at any sports type store. When I last bought one a few years ago, I was advised to buy the best one with a good warranty. I went cheap and the gas expanded while the tank was all closed up. It was never the same and always stunk of mixed gas. The one supplied by Tom in my Yukon seems to be a better unit. BTW.. the old metal one had rotted out. |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:50:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:01:10 -0600, observer wrote: I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. Metal tanks? That goes back a ways. Are you saying I'm old g? I know if the shoe fits wear it. I may not be old yet but I'm getting there (my college age daughters say I'm old). The late model tanks are made of a poly material with integral vents in the filler caps. They are fairly strong, but will tend to flex if left in the sun for a while if you don't have the cap vented - just like the gas can you use on your lawn equipment but not as bad as they have thicker sides. I recall the metal ones had a gage on them to give you an idea how much gas was in the tank (of course you could pick it up a bit and from experience you could tell by the weight without looking at the gage). I guess with plastic ones you can see the gas from the side or do they still have some type of gage on top (I'm referring to the portable 6 gal. tanks)? It all depends on the boat with respect to internal tanks. Forgot to say thanks for your reply. |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:49:51 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:56:33 -0600, observer penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:16:54 GMT, "Tom G" wrote: observer wrote in message ... I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. Looks like the smaller motors come with 6 gallon plastic tanks which I've not had good luck with. They expand during the heat of the day, which tends to permanently deform the bottom of the tank so it doesn't fit flat to the floor of the boat. Then at night, they'll suck in, further deforming. All of this expanding and contracting seems to pull in air from outside with it's moisture which the alcohol in the fuel then pulls into the gas mixture. Also, I've noticed little cracks in the plastic at the edges from the movement. Steel tanks are still available to purchase at some of the big boating retailers (catalogue and on line). I picked up a couple of used ones the other day for $5 each and they're going to replace my plastic ones Tom G. Thanks Tom. I guess I have a lot of catching up to do :( but somehow I think I can still handle a similar boat. At that time, our last outboard was a Evinrude 125 hp 2cyl, if that matters. Thanks again!! ps-- I didn't mean to start a flame over this. Just trying to update my knowledge/memory . Sorry about being the cause of the flames. ROFL..... if you think those are flames, you don't visit here much! Seriously, though.... as Eisboch suggests, keeping the tank full is the best solution.... but short of that, I think there is no real harm in leaving the vent open in such a small tank.... unless the boat is stored for a longer period of time, in which case if it isn't premix I'd put the surplus into the car or lawn mower. Since my son is not the most responsible in keeping the tank full, I just make sure the vent is open. That is easier to deal with than fuel dripping out of the garboard drain. You're right I don't visit here a lot but I can take the flames if I must. I'm not so sure I'd like to leave a gas tank vented when the boat is docked and I'm not there because of the fumes and some idiot smoking nearby. But as I recall we never left much gas in the tanks when the boat was docked say more than a couple of hours. There was also the possibility of theft even at a good marina then. No need to give them free gas tho as I recall (some will laugh at this, gas was well under a buck a gallon then... I'm thinking it was like 50 to 60 cents/gal). BTW, what does gas usually run at the marinas, say this past summer? Normally we tried to gas up at the gas station because it was cheaper but it was harder because you had to lug the gas tank back to the boat so the marinas we more convenient of course. And if it matters (probably doesn't) we had a 18' Wellcraft back when Wellcraft was a fairly new company. The boat was a double fiberglass v-hull (deep V actually I think) but I guess by today's stds., pretty plain but it served us well and we took pretty good care of it. In fact many years later we sold it and it was still in good shape so the next buyer got a bargain. If I lived closer to water, there is no doubt I'd have a boat again and probably an outboard even tho I recall they always seem to break down. I have A LOT of good memories with our boat. I remember once doing a good deed for a Donzi owner towing him into shore (his motor stopped) and he told me he'd give me a ride when it worked again and he did. Boy that boat was fast. I remember seeing the Cigarettes in the ocean when I was at the beach and always wishing I had one of them. Ok, left me stop mumbling :( . Forgive me... just too many memories of boating. |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:49:51 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:56:33 -0600, observer penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:16:54 GMT, "Tom G" wrote: observer wrote in message ... I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. Looks like the smaller motors come with 6 gallon plastic tanks which I've not had good luck with. They expand during the heat of the day, which tends to permanently deform the bottom of the tank so it doesn't fit flat to the floor of the boat. Then at night, they'll suck in, further deforming. All of this expanding and contracting seems to pull in air from outside with it's moisture which the alcohol in the fuel then pulls into the gas mixture. Also, I've noticed little cracks in the plastic at the edges from the movement. Steel tanks are still available to purchase at some of the big boating retailers (catalogue and on line). I picked up a couple of used ones the other day for $5 each and they're going to replace my plastic ones Tom G. Thanks Tom. I guess I have a lot of catching up to do :( but somehow I think I can still handle a similar boat. At that time, our last outboard was a Evinrude 125 hp 2cyl, if that matters. Thanks again!! ps-- I didn't mean to start a flame over this. Just trying to update my knowledge/memory . Sorry about being the cause of the flames. ROFL..... if you think those are flames, you don't visit here much! Seriously, though.... as Eisboch suggests, keeping the tank full is the best solution.... but short of that, I think there is no real harm in leaving the vent open in such a small tank.... unless the boat is stored for a longer period of time, in which case if it isn't premix I'd put the surplus into the car or lawn mower. Since my son is not the most responsible in keeping the tank full, I just make sure the vent is open. That is easier to deal with than fuel dripping out of the garboard drain. Just to continue a sec.... Not to brag but 99 % of my memories were on a small runabout but I was also fortunate enough to also have some on a 53' Hatteras several times and to be honest, I'd rather have the small boat but I'm glad to have had the large boat memories because I can speak from experience (without the cost g) . |
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observer wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:49:51 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: I'm not so sure I'd like to leave a gas tank vented when the boat is docked and I'm not there because of the fumes and some idiot smoking nearby. Hello observer ..... I apologize if you took my comment about keeping the tank full as being a smart ass comment. Didn't intend it that way. I have a old, 13' Whaler and use a couple of the plastic tanks, one 6 gallon and the other is 3 gallons. Both have a fuel gage (part of the filler cap) with a small vent in the center. As far as I know, the only reason to tighten the vent cap is when you are transporting the tank and don't want spillage. Otherwise, I leave the vent slightly cracked to equalize the internal pressure as the vapors expand and contract. The reason to keep it as full as possible is that it minimizes the amount of humid air being drawn into the tank. If you are regularly using the boat and engine, I don't think it's much of a concern. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:51:55 GMT, wrote:
if a person uses their boat often, moisture is not a problem. I agree that that would make it LESS of a problem. What that has to do with me keeping my tank full is a bit of a mystery. I'd explain it to you but you seem to be hard of understanding, i.e., learning challenged. |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:04:04 -0600, observer penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:49:51 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:56:33 -0600, observer penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | |On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:16:54 GMT, "Tom G" |wrote: | | |observer wrote in message m... | I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a | 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and | I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks | still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for | the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of | today. thanks. | |Looks like the smaller motors come with 6 gallon plastic tanks which I've |not had good luck with. They expand during the heat of the day, which tends |to permanently deform the bottom of the tank so it doesn't fit flat to the |floor of the boat. Then at night, they'll suck in, further deforming. All |of this expanding and contracting seems to pull in air from outside with |it's moisture which the alcohol in the fuel then pulls into the gas mixture. |Also, I've noticed little cracks in the plastic at the edges from the |movement. Steel tanks are still available to purchase at some of the big |boating retailers (catalogue and on line). I picked up a couple of used |ones the other day for $5 each and they're going to replace my plastic ones | |Tom G. | | | |Thanks Tom. I guess I have a lot of catching up to do :( but |somehow I think I can still handle a similar boat. At that time, our |last outboard was a Evinrude 125 hp 2cyl, if that matters. | |Thanks again!! | |ps-- I didn't mean to start a flame over this. Just trying to update |my knowledge/memory . Sorry about being the cause of the flames. | |ROFL..... if you think those are flames, you don't visit here much! | |Seriously, though.... as Eisboch suggests, keeping the tank full is |the best solution.... but short of that, I think there is no real harm |in leaving the vent open in such a small tank.... unless the boat is |stored for a longer period of time, in which case if it isn't premix |I'd put the surplus into the car or lawn mower. | |Since my son is not the most responsible in keeping the tank full, I |just make sure the vent is open. That is easier to deal with than fuel |dripping out of the garboard drain. | | |You're right I don't visit here a lot but I can take the flames if I |must. | |I'm not so sure I'd like to leave a gas tank vented when the boat is |docked and I'm not there because of the fumes and some idiot smoking |nearby. A full tanks is safer than a half empty one. I wouldn't worry about flammability just from outgassing in a non-pressure situation. |But as I recall we never left much gas in the tanks when the |boat was docked say more than a couple of hours. There was also the |possibility of theft even at a good marina then. No need to give them |free gas tho as I recall (some will laugh at this, gas was well under |a buck a gallon then... I'm thinking it was like 50 to 60 cents/gal). I can remember when it was $.16 a gallon. |BTW, what does gas usually run at the marinas, say this past summer? |Normally we tried to gas up at the gas station because it was cheaper |but it was harder because you had to lug the gas tank back to the boat |so the marinas we more convenient of course. I never fill up at the marinas to much $$$$$$. |And if it matters (probably doesn't) we had a 18' Wellcraft back when |Wellcraft was a fairly new company. The boat was a double fiberglass |v-hull (deep V actually I think) but I guess by today's stds., pretty |plain but it served us well and we took pretty good care of it. In |fact many years later we sold it and it was still in good shape so the |next buyer got a bargain. If I lived closer to water, there is no |doubt I'd have a boat again and probably an outboard even tho I recall |they always seem to break down. I have A LOT of good memories with |our boat. I remember once doing a good deed for a Donzi owner towing |him into shore (his motor stopped) and he told me he'd give me a ride |when it worked again and he did. Boy that boat was fast. I remember |seeing the Cigarettes in the ocean when I was at the beach and always |wishing I had one of them. Ok, left me stop mumbling :( . |Forgive me... just too many memories of boating. The only cure is getting a boat. You're hooked! -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:11:04 -0600, observer penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | |Just to continue a sec.... |Not to brag but 99 % of my memories were on a small runabout but I was |also fortunate enough to also have some on a 53' Hatteras several |times and to be honest, I'd rather have the small boat but I'm glad to |have had the large boat memories because I can speak from experience |(without the cost g) . There is a lot to be said for a smaller boat, if you don't need the bulk. My son has repoed his 17 footer in anticipation of duck hunting. I'll miss it on the days I don't really feel like wrestling with my boat. Oh, well.... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:41:02 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: observer wrote in message .. . On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:49:51 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: I'm not so sure I'd like to leave a gas tank vented when the boat is docked and I'm not there because of the fumes and some idiot smoking nearby. Hello observer ..... I apologize if you took my comment about keeping the tank full as being a smart ass comment. Didn't intend it that way. No I didn't take it that way and thanks for the advice/reply. |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:06:28 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:11:04 -0600, observer penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | |Just to continue a sec.... |Not to brag but 99 % of my memories were on a small runabout but I was |also fortunate enough to also have some on a 53' Hatteras several |times and to be honest, I'd rather have the small boat but I'm glad to |have had the large boat memories because I can speak from experience |(without the cost g) . There is a lot to be said for a smaller boat, if you don't need the bulk. My son has repoed his 17 footer in anticipation of duck hunting. I'll miss it on the days I don't really feel like wrestling with my boat. Oh, well.... I couldn't agree more with you about the smaller boat. To me, the big boat is a hassle because you really need a mate to tie/untie and maybe for the clean up after an outing. And usually before pulling out of the slip, the owner (my uncle) would go thru a brief list of things to check before going on an excursion. To me, the smaller boat is so much easier to take care of and for local running around (which I did), much more appealing.... I mean you really don't want to pull out a 50 or so footer to go around the bay or bays g. If nothing else it will look funny :) . |
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a |small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:21 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a |small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! No offense (I am only repeating what I remember and not my own opinion) but back in the day when I was into boating I don't remember Grady held in high praise but I know that could be different now since that was many years ago. Back then one boat in high praise was the boston whaler. There were some other boats that were considered worthy but I don't remember them right now. To me the bottom line is if the boat works for you and you enjoy it, it's the best boat g. |
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Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:29:18 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:16:54 GMT, Tom G penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: observer wrote in message ... I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. Looks like the smaller motors come with 6 gallon plastic tanks which I've not had good luck with. They expand during the heat of the day, which tends to permanently deform the bottom of the tank so it doesn't fit flat to the floor of the boat. Then at night, they'll suck in, further deforming. All of this expanding and contracting seems to pull in air from outside with it's moisture which the alcohol in the fuel then pulls into the gas mixture. Also, I've noticed little cracks in the plastic at the edges from the movement. Steel tanks are still available to purchase at some of the big boating retailers (catalogue and on line). I picked up a couple of used ones the other day for $5 each and they're going to replace my plastic ones Tom G. Piece of cake. Leave the vent open! Yeah, there's no problem leaving the vent open so every night when the sun goes down you suck in more and more of that nice MOIST evening air... Keep it full of gas. Eisboch Doesn't the alcohol in gasohol take care of the moisture? Sherwin |
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I have kept my 6 gallon metal tank from my 1980's Chrysler, mainly because it
just fits into my rear locker, whereas my newer 2002 Yamaha 6 gallon plastic tank was just too big to fit. Seems like at one time the coast guard was not allowing plastic gas tanks and cans on boats because they tended to melt in fires. I don't recall what changed their policy, but I feel safer with a metal tank. Sherwin observer wrote: I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of today. thanks. |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:57:49 -0600, observer wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:21 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a |small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! No offense (I am only repeating what I remember and not my own opinion) but back in the day when I was into boating I don't remember Grady held in high praise but I know that could be different now since that was many years ago. Back then one boat in high praise was the boston whaler. There were some other boats that were considered worthy but I don't remember them right now. To me the bottom line is if the boat works for you and you enjoy it, it's the best boat g. No offense, but Grady's have been building quality boats since the wood days. Around Marblehead Harbor when I was growing up, Grady's were very common and well thought of. |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:11:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:57:49 -0600, observer wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:21 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a |small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! No offense (I am only repeating what I remember and not my own opinion) but back in the day when I was into boating I don't remember Grady held in high praise but I know that could be different now since that was many years ago. Back then one boat in high praise was the boston whaler. There were some other boats that were considered worthy but I don't remember them right now. To me the bottom line is if the boat works for you and you enjoy it, it's the best boat g. No offense, but Grady's have been building quality boats since the wood days. Around Marblehead Harbor when I was growing up, Grady's were very common and well thought of. I have to really scratch my memory on this but I think I heard that Grady did make a fine wood boat but never heard good about their fiberglass ones. Around where I was growing up in the east end of Long Island (Hamptons area) they were not popular but I did see some. What I think I heard wrt the fiberglass ones were that they weren't that sea worthy but on the other hand, I guess being around a long time does speak positive for Grady boats. Anyway as I said before, in my opinion, if the boat works for you, then it is the BEST boat regardless of brand or other opinions g. ps-- personally I have nothing against Grady because I never owned one but being you and possibly others like them, if I do buy a boat I will revisit them to see for myself!! Like someone else said, I guess boating never left my blood even after all the years ... a LOT of memories/adventures. |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:27:06 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:50:33 -0600, observer penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:11:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:57:49 -0600, observer wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:21 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a |small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! No offense (I am only repeating what I remember and not my own opinion) but back in the day when I was into boating I don't remember Grady held in high praise but I know that could be different now since that was many years ago. Back then one boat in high praise was the boston whaler. There were some other boats that were considered worthy but I don't remember them right now. To me the bottom line is if the boat works for you and you enjoy it, it's the best boat g. No offense, but Grady's have been building quality boats since the wood days. Around Marblehead Harbor when I was growing up, Grady's were very common and well thought of. I have to really scratch my memory on this but I think I heard that Grady did make a fine wood boat but never heard good about their fiberglass ones. Around where I was growing up in the east end of Long Island (Hamptons area) they were not popular but I did see some. What I think I heard wrt the fiberglass ones were that they weren't that sea worthy but on the other hand, I guess being around a long time does speak positive for Grady boats. Anyway as I said before, in my opinion, if the boat works for you, then it is the BEST boat regardless of brand or other opinions g. ps-- personally I have nothing against Grady because I never owned one but being you and possibly others like them, if I do buy a boat I will revisit them to see for myself!! Like someone else said, I guess boating never left my blood even after all the years ... a LOT of memories/adventures. http://www.jdpower.com/boats/ratings...g-boat-ratings http://www.gradywhite.com/news/index.php3#53 Looks good. Thanks Gene. |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:27:06 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:50:33 -0600, observer penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:11:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:57:49 -0600, observer wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:21 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a |small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! No offense (I am only repeating what I remember and not my own opinion) but back in the day when I was into boating I don't remember Grady held in high praise but I know that could be different now since that was many years ago. Back then one boat in high praise was the boston whaler. There were some other boats that were considered worthy but I don't remember them right now. To me the bottom line is if the boat works for you and you enjoy it, it's the best boat g. No offense, but Grady's have been building quality boats since the wood days. Around Marblehead Harbor when I was growing up, Grady's were very common and well thought of. I have to really scratch my memory on this but I think I heard that Grady did make a fine wood boat but never heard good about their fiberglass ones. Around where I was growing up in the east end of Long Island (Hamptons area) they were not popular but I did see some. What I think I heard wrt the fiberglass ones were that they weren't that sea worthy but on the other hand, I guess being around a long time does speak positive for Grady boats. Anyway as I said before, in my opinion, if the boat works for you, then it is the BEST boat regardless of brand or other opinions g. ps-- personally I have nothing against Grady because I never owned one but being you and possibly others like them, if I do buy a boat I will revisit them to see for myself!! Like someone else said, I guess boating never left my blood even after all the years ... a LOT of memories/adventures. http://www.jdpower.com/boats/ratings...g-boat-ratings http://www.gradywhite.com/news/index.php3#53 Just to add to my last post, I just took a look at some old posts and they also have some saying the same about Grady boats being unseaworthy as I remember about 30 years ago. I won't give them much weight tho but I was surprised to see it. And I swear that I didn't read them prior to my earlier posts but of course I have no way to prove this. Your references do speak highly of Grady boats and I think even if they are not completely correct, likely Grady boats are at a minimum worthy of consideration at least in my opinion. Even if my memory was correct 30 years ago about Grady boats, in all this time, things can change. I know I have....unfortunately maybe not always for the better :( . |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:17:30 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:08:22 -0600, observer wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:27:06 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:50:33 -0600, observer penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:11:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:57:49 -0600, observer wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:21 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a |small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! No offense (I am only repeating what I remember and not my own opinion) but back in the day when I was into boating I don't remember Grady held in high praise but I know that could be different now since that was many years ago. Back then one boat in high praise was the boston whaler. There were some other boats that were considered worthy but I don't remember them right now. To me the bottom line is if the boat works for you and you enjoy it, it's the best boat g. No offense, but Grady's have been building quality boats since the wood days. Around Marblehead Harbor when I was growing up, Grady's were very common and well thought of. I have to really scratch my memory on this but I think I heard that Grady did make a fine wood boat but never heard good about their fiberglass ones. Around where I was growing up in the east end of Long Island (Hamptons area) they were not popular but I did see some. What I think I heard wrt the fiberglass ones were that they weren't that sea worthy but on the other hand, I guess being around a long time does speak positive for Grady boats. Anyway as I said before, in my opinion, if the boat works for you, then it is the BEST boat regardless of brand or other opinions g. ps-- personally I have nothing against Grady because I never owned one but being you and possibly others like them, if I do buy a boat I will revisit them to see for myself!! Like someone else said, I guess boating never left my blood even after all the years ... a LOT of memories/adventures. http://www.jdpower.com/boats/ratings...g-boat-ratings http://www.gradywhite.com/news/index.php3#53 Just to add to my last post, I just took a look at some old posts and they also have some saying the same about Grady boats being unseaworthy as I remember about 30 years ago. I won't give them much weight tho but I was surprised to see it. And I swear that I didn't read them prior to my earlier posts but of course I have no way to prove this. Your references do speak highly of Grady boats and I think even if they are not completely correct, likely Grady boats are at a minimum worthy of consideration at least in my opinion. Even if my memory was correct 30 years ago about Grady boats, in all this time, things can change. I know I have....unfortunately maybe not always for the better :( . In Greenwich, CT, one of the wealthiest towns in the United States, boaters can afford whatever boat they want. The harbor is awash with Grady-Whites. There is almost nothing else there in the 20 to 36 foot range of boats. Part of it may be the great dealership. http://www.catalanoandsons.com/ Just curious what about the 50' + range, do you see there? |
gas tanks
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:13:49 -0600, sherwindu penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | |Eisboch wrote: | | wrote in message | ... | On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:29:18 -0500, Gene Kearns | wrote: | | On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:16:54 GMT, Tom G penned the following well | considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | | observer wrote in message | ... | I've been outa the boat scene for 30 years but at that time I had a | 18' outboard. I recall we had 2 metal 6 gal tanks (not built in) and | I think another metal 12 or 18 gal tank. Nowadays are the tanks | still metal or heavy plastic? And do they still have 6 gal tanks for | the outboard motors? Just trying to catch up with the same boats of | today. thanks. | | Looks like the smaller motors come with 6 gallon plastic tanks which I've | not had good luck with. They expand during the heat of the day, which | tends | to permanently deform the bottom of the tank so it doesn't fit flat to | the | floor of the boat. Then at night, they'll suck in, further deforming. | All | of this expanding and contracting seems to pull in air from outside with | it's moisture which the alcohol in the fuel then pulls into the gas | mixture. | Also, I've noticed little cracks in the plastic at the edges from the | movement. Steel tanks are still available to purchase at some of the big | boating retailers (catalogue and on line). I picked up a couple of used | ones the other day for $5 each and they're going to replace my plastic | ones | | Tom G. | | | Piece of cake. Leave the vent open! | | Yeah, there's no problem leaving the vent open so every night when the | sun goes down you suck in more and more of that nice MOIST evening | air... | | | | Keep it full of gas. | | Eisboch | |Doesn't the alcohol in gasohol take care of the moisture? | | Sherwin | Well, it binds with it... and carries it through the fuel system... that might be worse than just letting it sit in the tank.... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:31:25 -0500, penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:06:15 -0600, observer wrote: | |On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:17:30 GMT, wrote: | |On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:08:22 -0600, observer wrote: | |On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:27:06 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:50:33 -0600, observer penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | |On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:11:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: | |On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:57:49 -0600, observer wrote: | |On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:28:21 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:21:49 -0500, " JimH" ask penned the |following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||We will then move into a 21 to 23 footer, still with a ||small cuddy, but better set up for fishing. | |Grin.... Jim's thinking about a Grady! | |No offense (I am only repeating what I remember and not my own |opinion) but back in the day when I was into boating I don't remember |Grady held in high praise but I know that could be different now since |that was many years ago. Back then one boat in high praise was the |boston whaler. There were some other boats that were considered |worthy but I don't remember them right now. To me the bottom line is |if the boat works for you and you enjoy it, it's the best boat g. | |No offense, but Grady's have been building quality boats since the |wood days. Around Marblehead Harbor when I was growing up, Grady's |were very common and well thought of. | |I have to really scratch my memory on this but I think I heard that |Grady did make a fine wood boat but never heard good about their |fiberglass ones. Around where I was growing up in the east end of |Long Island (Hamptons area) they were not popular but I did see some. |What I think I heard wrt the fiberglass ones were that they weren't |that sea worthy but on the other hand, I guess being around a long |time does speak positive for Grady boats. | |Anyway as I said before, in my opinion, if the boat works for you, |then it is the BEST boat regardless of brand or other opinions g. | |ps-- personally I have nothing against Grady because I never owned |one but being you and possibly others like them, if I do buy a boat I |will revisit them to see for myself!! Like someone else said, I guess |boating never left my blood even after all the years ... a LOT of |memories/adventures. | |http://www.jdpower.com/boats/ratings...g-boat-ratings |http://www.gradywhite.com/news/index.php3#53 | | |Just to add to my last post, I just took a look at some old posts and |they also have some saying the same about Grady boats being |unseaworthy as I remember about 30 years ago. I won't give them much |weight tho but I was surprised to see it. And I swear that I didn't |read them prior to my earlier posts but of course I have no way to |prove this. Your references do speak highly of Grady boats and I |think even if they are not completely correct, likely Grady boats are |at a minimum worthy of consideration at least in my opinion. Even if |my memory was correct 30 years ago about Grady boats, in all this |time, things can change. I know I have....unfortunately maybe not |always for the better :( . | | |In Greenwich, CT, one of the wealthiest towns in the United States, |boaters can afford whatever boat they want. The harbor is awash with |Grady-Whites. There is almost nothing else there in the 20 to 36 foot |range of boats. | |Part of it may be the great dealership. |http://www.catalanoandsons.com/ | | | |Just curious what about the 50' + range, do you see there? | |No single manufacturer stands out. | Rybovich. http://www.buffettnews.com/gallery/d....php?pos=-7848 -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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