krueger wrote:

A group of us open boaters were on the Klamath 4th July week, and normally
we see rafters and kayakers, but rarely canoeist. Curly Jack CG, Sarah
Totten CG are full, commercial rafters at Trees of Heaven, Happy Camp,
Curley Jack, and Ferry Point put-ins. This year we saw one youth group of 3
rafts, and one guided raft on the Happy Camp run, and one group at Trees of
Heaven, and the camp grounds were basicly empty... Unheard of! To our
surprise though, the surf wave at School House is now considered a "park 'n
play" spot, and was occupied with lots of kayakers.

We were on the Forks o' Payette over July 4th, and it was interesting
that some runs on the river were virtually devoid of people, whereas
others such as Staircase, the Main Payette, and Cabarton were swarming.
However the best runs we did IMO-- the Gorge where Walt Blackadar died,
the South Fork Boise (not technically a fork o' Payette) and the
upper South Fork near Lowman-- had no other boaters on the river!

We still enjoyed having the river to ourselves, but it was almost too quiet!

It's nice having solitude, though!
The park'n'play aspect of recent kayaking has reduced river touring use,
and perhaps the emphasis on Xtreme kayaking has caused moderate people
to lose interest in the sport.

Added note: Rattle Snake and The Trench have seen some changes from our
last visit 2 years ago.

Can you describe how they changed?