Fresh water washdown ideas
 

HK wrote:


Be sure to let us know when you run Matanzas and Nassau Sound Inlets in
NE Florida in that high-transomed barge of yours. That'll tell us all
about the seaworthiness of floating RVs. You can head in to the ICW at
Nassau Sound and then out into the Atlantic again at Mantanzas.

Take photos after you change your brown-stained shorts.

Oh. I've run both inlets dozens of times. In very, very small boats.

Go for it.


Here's an aerial of Nassau Sound, looking north:

http://tinyurl.com/377gua


You want to enter so you head under the smaller bridge at the left of
the photo. Once you are under that bridge, you turn left and then right
and to your right, along the quarter mile of shoreline that leads right
to the ICW are some terrific oyster beds that hold lots of redfish and
flounder.

Harry,
You da man! There probably is no one in rec.boats with your skill and
expertise. NO one else whould have ever attempted to run those inlets
in your little 17' bay boat. You must feel very sad to have to contend
with now fishing in a bay with no inlets that allow you to take
advantage of your years of experience. I guess that is why you now
average less than an hour a week using your boat.

Fresh water washdown ideas
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:


Be sure to let us know when you run Matanzas and Nassau Sound Inlets
in NE Florida in that high-transomed barge of yours. That'll tell us all
about the seaworthiness of floating RVs. You can head in to the ICW at
Nassau Sound and then out into the Atlantic again at Mantanzas.

Take photos after you change your brown-stained shorts.

Oh. I've run both inlets dozens of times. In very, very small boats.

Go for it.


Here's an aerial of Nassau Sound, looking north:

http://tinyurl.com/377gua


You want to enter so you head under the smaller bridge at the left of
the photo. Once you are under that bridge, you turn left and then
right and to your right, along the quarter mile of shoreline that
leads right
to the ICW are some terrific oyster beds that hold lots of redfish and
flounder.

Harry,
You da man! There probably is no one in rec.boats with your skill and
expertise. NO one else whould have ever attempted to run those inlets
in your little 17' bay boat. You must feel very sad to have to contend
with now fishing in a bay with no inlets that allow you to take
advantage of your years of experience. I guess that is why you now
average less than an hour a week using your boat.





That's right, S.F.B. I've got about 25 hours on my new boat in the few
weeks I've owned her, am still using her, and your imaginary boat is put
away for the season, you claim.

Right.

Fresh water washdown ideas
 

HK wrote:
I'm thinking seriously of installing a fresh water washdown system in
the new Yo Ho. The boat has a very large center console* with good
access, so I have room for a decent tank. I'm thinking 12 to 15 gallons.
Probably a poly water tank, a washdown pump, a bit of hose, a couple of
hose fittings for filling tank, for draining tank to the cockpit, for
the hose washdown, et cetera. Got access to unused circuit breakers in
the console.

Any suggestions? Pitfalls?

Washdown will be used to flush the decks on occasion, to wash off hands,
to spray down the windshield, but the water will not be used for drinking.

Any suggestions?

Duplicate what you have in the 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat.

Fresh water washdown ideas
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:


Be sure to let us know when you run Matanzas and Nassau Sound Inlets
in NE Florida in that high-transomed barge of yours. That'll tell us all
about the seaworthiness of floating RVs. You can head in to the ICW
at Nassau Sound and then out into the Atlantic again at Mantanzas.

Take photos after you change your brown-stained shorts.

Oh. I've run both inlets dozens of times. In very, very small boats.

Go for it.


Here's an aerial of Nassau Sound, looking north:

http://tinyurl.com/377gua


You want to enter so you head under the smaller bridge at the left of
the photo. Once you are under that bridge, you turn left and then
right and to your right, along the quarter mile of shoreline that
leads right
to the ICW are some terrific oyster beds that hold lots of redfish
and flounder.

Harry,
You da man! There probably is no one in rec.boats with your skill and
expertise. NO one else whould have ever attempted to run those inlets
in your little 17' bay boat. You must feel very sad to have to
contend with now fishing in a bay with no inlets that allow you to
take advantage of your years of experience. I guess that is why you
now average less than an hour a week using your boat.





That's right, S.F.B. I've got about 25 hours on my new boat in the few
weeks I've owned her, am still using her, and your imaginary boat is put
away for the season, you claim.

Right.

Harry,
It seems that you are really concerned if I have a boat or don't have a
boat, why don't you stop all the worrying and just take me up on my
offer to prove if I own a boat or not. It is a real simple way for you
to make $20,000 for either some really nice boating accessories or to
give to your favorite charity. As I said, I will donate half to the
Salvation Army, and will actually allow you to make the check out to the
Salvation Army so you can take the tax write off. Nothing could be
better than taking $20,000 from a real S.F.B. (whatever that is).

Hey, did I tell you my dad got his engineering degree from Yale?

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
I'm thinking seriously of installing a fresh water washdown system in
the new Yo Ho. The boat has a very large center console* with good
access, so I have room for a decent tank. I'm thinking 12 to 15 gallons.
Probably a poly water tank, a washdown pump, a bit of hose, a couple of
hose fittings for filling tank, for draining tank to the cockpit, for
the hose washdown, et cetera. Got access to unused circuit breakers in
the console.

Just make sure the tank and pump are securely fastened. Water is heavy.
Many tanks are held down by metal (aluminum?) straps, along with molded-in
ridges along the bottom. If you create your own base make sure the pieces
are large enough to spread the load. As in not just 1/2" strips of molding.
Same thing with the mount for the pump; screw it into larger sheets of
starboard, marine plywood and the like.

Check with the factory to see if they have recommendations for where to put
it and what sizes to use.

Jabsco also makes several different ways to mount the coiled hose. I
installed a 15' flush-mount system. The hole needed is 6-3/8". I had an 8"
deck plate over the anchor locker. I cut the hole into the existing deck
plate. This way I didn't have to cut a new hole for the hose, but can still
pop it out to gain access to the rode locker. I also put an extra 2' of
3/8" hose on it to allow the container to be pulled fully up from the deck
plate without disconnecting anything.

Coiled hoses aren't very good at stretching their "full" length. Don't
expect to get much more than 10' of total extension, even with a 25' hose.
Yes, you CAN pull them out pretty far, but in the process they tend to kink.
Worse yet they eventually stretch enough to refuse to properly coil back up
again. So adjust your expectations accordingly.

You'll need a filler hose AND a vent hose (you need to displace the air when
filling it). Better to install an actual deck plate for these and not try
to screw/unscrew something directly on the tank.

Don't forget to install a filter ahead of the pump to keep gunk from ruining
it. And an inline backflow valve to prevent anything from getting sucked
back into the tank. While you may never "plan" to ingest the water it would
be better to set it up so that it "could" be used in an emergency.

And when you run the plumbing be sure to secure it properly. You don't want
the hose flopping around; eventually chafing and leaking.

-Bill Kearney

Fresh water washdown ideas
 

Bill Kearney wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
I'm thinking seriously of installing a fresh water washdown system in
the new Yo Ho. The boat has a very large center console* with good
access, so I have room for a decent tank. I'm thinking 12 to 15 gallons.
Probably a poly water tank, a washdown pump, a bit of hose, a couple of
hose fittings for filling tank, for draining tank to the cockpit, for
the hose washdown, et cetera. Got access to unused circuit breakers in
the console.

Just make sure the tank and pump are securely fastened. Water is heavy.
Many tanks are held down by metal (aluminum?) straps, along with molded-in
ridges along the bottom. If you create your own base make sure the pieces
are large enough to spread the load. As in not just 1/2" strips of molding.
Same thing with the mount for the pump; screw it into larger sheets of
starboard, marine plywood and the like.

Check with the factory to see if they have recommendations for where to put
it and what sizes to use.

Jabsco also makes several different ways to mount the coiled hose. I
installed a 15' flush-mount system. The hole needed is 6-3/8". I had an 8"
deck plate over the anchor locker. I cut the hole into the existing deck
plate. This way I didn't have to cut a new hole for the hose, but can still
pop it out to gain access to the rode locker. I also put an extra 2' of
3/8" hose on it to allow the container to be pulled fully up from the deck
plate without disconnecting anything.

Coiled hoses aren't very good at stretching their "full" length. Don't
expect to get much more than 10' of total extension, even with a 25' hose.
Yes, you CAN pull them out pretty far, but in the process they tend to kink.
Worse yet they eventually stretch enough to refuse to properly coil back up
again. So adjust your expectations accordingly.

You'll need a filler hose AND a vent hose (you need to displace the air when
filling it). Better to install an actual deck plate for these and not try
to screw/unscrew something directly on the tank.

Don't forget to install a filter ahead of the pump to keep gunk from ruining
it. And an inline backflow valve to prevent anything from getting sucked
back into the tank. While you may never "plan" to ingest the water it would
be better to set it up so that it "could" be used in an emergency.

And when you run the plumbing be sure to secure it properly. You don't want
the hose flopping around; eventually chafing and leaking.

-Bill Kearney



Thanks. I have a perfect place to spot the tank. The center console has
a front seat on a hinge (it's not a cooler seat), and the opening
directly under the seat is large enough for a water tank shaped like a
jerry can turned on its side. I'm thinking of welding up an aluminum
tube frame to fit the opening and hold the tank snugly, and then using
nylon web straps to further fasten the tank to the aluminum frame. That
way, the tank won't move and when I need to empty whatever is left in it
at the end of the season, I can unstrap it and pour out the remnants.

There are several spots on the console to spot a filler deck plate and
air vent.

The center console is approximately amidships, so a 25' coiled hose will
work, as will a 12' length of ordinary hose I can coil up and stash on a
stainless hook on the side of the console.

The inside of the console has several 1/2" mounting "plates" inside on
which to attach accessories. The boat weighs about 2800 pounds sans
motor, gas and gear, and for a 21-footer, that's pretty heavy. A lot of
the weight is in reinforcing.

I like the filter ideas. Thanks for a very helpful response.

Fresh water washdown ideas
 

On Oct 23, 6:14 pm, HK wrote:
I'm thinking seriously of installing a fresh water washdown system in
the new Yo Ho. The boat has a very large center console* with good
access, so I have room for a decent tank. I'm thinking 12 to 15 gallons.
Probably a poly water tank, a washdown pump, a bit of hose, a couple of
hose fittings for filling tank, for draining tank to the cockpit, for
the hose washdown, et cetera. Got access to unused circuit breakers in
the console.

Any suggestions? Pitfalls?

Washdown will be used to flush the decks on occasion, to wash off hands,
to spray down the windshield, but the water will not be used for drinking.

Any suggestions?

* Large enough console for a 6' taller rigger to climb into it
completely when doing the original electronics wiring. I didn't believe
it unti I saw it for myself.

Harry, here's a good start, now all you need is the tank:
http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0024250016814a.shtml

For those, check these out:
http://www.outdoorsuperstore.com/category.asp?cat=62205

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:49:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Be sure to let us know when you run Matanzas and Nassau Sound Inlets in
NE Florida

Why would I want to do that when I already have 3 safe, deep water
inlets in NE Florida? Real men and real boats run offshore past most
of NE Florida.

Small boats with limited range, low transoms, inexperienced operators
and dubious sea keeping ability run for cover where ever they can find
it. Florida east coast USCG recommends 24 ft as the minimum for
offshore fishing based on their capsize statistics. That jibes with
my experience.

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:30:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Small boats with limited range, low transoms, inexperienced operators
and dubious sea keeping ability run for cover where ever they can find
it.

Ahem...

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:49:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Be sure to let us know when you run Matanzas and Nassau Sound Inlets in
NE Florida

Why would I want to do that when I already have 3 safe, deep water
inlets in NE Florida? Real men and real boats run offshore past most
of NE Florida.

Small boats with limited range, low transoms, inexperienced operators
and dubious sea keeping ability run for cover where ever they can find
it. Florida east coast USCG recommends 24 ft as the minimum for
offshore fishing based on their capsize statistics. That jibes with
my experience.

How many offshore capsizes have you enjoyed?

Oh...why would you want those inlets? Because with your RV barge, you
probably couldn't. It would be a test of your meager inlet running skills.