River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

Seems like the rivers around Washington DC require a period cleanup of
old cars, defunct refrigerators, worn out tires, CRT PC monitors and
other stuff that somebody must have figured was "outta sight, outta
mind". 40-million pounds of trash each year in the Anacostia River
alone- according to the attached item. (Good grief, that's almost 1-
million pounds of junk per week!)

I noticed that the WM Store in Deale, Md is participating in this
event. I think that's Harry's and John H's general neighborhood, as it
has been mentioned a time or two in posts about mooring and storing
boats. Really, you guys should be more careful! :-)

***************


Organizations to Help Clear Debris from the Anacostia River

WATSONVILLE, Calif. (October 22, 2007) - West Marine, Inc., the
country's favorite
retailer of boating supplies and accessories, is partnering with
Living Classrooms of the
National Capital Region to help clear debris from the Anacostia River
in Washington, DC.

On Thursday, November 15, 2007 from 10 AM-12 PM, West Marine employees
from the
D.C area will join Living Classrooms, an organization which provides
hands-on education
and job skills training for at-risk students, in helping clear debris
from the Anacostia
River near Kingman Island. The event will provide a forum for
information on debris
recruitment and associated hands-on activities that reflect the Living
Classrooms
approach to learning.

"Debris is a major problem affecting our nation's shorelines and
20,000 tons enter the
historic Anacostia River annually," said Peter Harris, president and
chief executive
officer, West Marine. "Through our partnership with Living Classrooms
in our Nation's
Capital, we are helping address the problem, while educating people
about the
importance of keeping our water clean."

In addition to their hands on support, West Marine stores in the DC
area will be donating
5% of all sales on Thursday, November 8, 2007 to Living Classrooms and
their clean up
efforts of the Anacostia River.

Participating West Marine stores include:

West Marine
601 S Patrick St, Alexandria, VA 22314
Phone: (703) 549-7020

West Marine
890 S Pickett St, Alexandria, VA 22304
Phone: (703) 461-2850

West Marine
13330 Gordon Blvd., Woodbridge, VA 22191
Phone: (703) 492-6225

West Marine
5250 Randolph Rd., Rockville, MD 20852
Phone: (301) 230-0945

West Marine
389 Deale Rd, Tracy's Landing, MD 20779
Phone: (301) 889-0004

For more information on how people can get involved in the Anacostia
River clean up
efforts, visit the Living Classrooms of the National Capital Region
Website at
www.livingclassroomsdc.org or call 202-441-8493.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
Seems like the rivers around Washington DC require a period cleanup of
old cars, defunct refrigerators, worn out tires, CRT PC monitors and
other stuff that somebody must have figured was "outta sight, outta
mind". 40-million pounds of trash each year in the Anacostia River
alone- according to the attached item. (Good grief, that's almost 1-
million pounds of junk per week!)

I noticed that the WM Store in Deale, Md is participating in this
event. I think that's Harry's and John H's general neighborhood, as it
has been mentioned a time or two in posts about mooring and storing
boats. Really, you guys should be more careful! :-)



The Anacostia River is nowhere near Deale. It is a tributary of the
Potomac and empties into it just south of Washington, D.C. The Potomac
empties into Chesapeake Bay about 40 miles south of Deale.

I've attached a map.

Deale is east of the DC area, on the Bay.

The Anacostia is the east side of the wye that feeds into the Potomac,
on the left side of the map.

Unfortunately, the lower income people who live in the "Anacostia"
portion of DC have for decades dumped trash into the river there. It's
really a pretty little river with a lot of potential, if it is ever
cleaned up. The new DC baseball stadium is being built along its banks.

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36


Perhaps you ought to stick to writing about boats built of unspecified
composites.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

On Oct 22, 11:54?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Seems like the rivers around Washington DC require a period cleanup of
old cars, defunct refrigerators, worn out tires, CRT PC monitors and
other stuff that somebody must have figured was "outta sight, outta
mind". 40-million pounds of trash each year in the Anacostia River
alone- according to the attached item. (Good grief, that's almost 1-
million pounds of junk per week!)

I noticed that the WM Store in Deale, Md is participating in this
event. I think that's Harry's and John H's general neighborhood, as it
has been mentioned a time or two in posts about mooring and storing
boats. Really, you guys should be more careful! :-)

The Anacostia River is nowhere near Deale. It is a tributary of the
Potomac and empties into it just south of Washington, D.C. The Potomac
empties into Chesapeake Bay about 40 miles south of Deale.

I've attached a map.

Deale is east of the DC area, on the Bay.

The Anacostia is the east side of the wye that feeds into the Potomac,
on the left side of the map.

Unfortunately, the lower income people who live in the "Anacostia"
portion of DC have for decades dumped trash into the river there. It's
really a pretty little river with a lot of potential, if it is ever
cleaned up. The new DC baseball stadium is being built along its banks.

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36

Perhaps you ought to stick to writing about boats built of unspecified
composites.

Well congrats to your local store for participating in the cleanup.

I didn't *really* suspect that you and John H were a big part of the
problem. :-)

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:54?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Seems like the rivers around Washington DC require a period cleanup of
old cars, defunct refrigerators, worn out tires, CRT PC monitors and
other stuff that somebody must have figured was "outta sight, outta
mind". 40-million pounds of trash each year in the Anacostia River
alone- according to the attached item. (Good grief, that's almost 1-
million pounds of junk per week!)
I noticed that the WM Store in Deale, Md is participating in this
event. I think that's Harry's and John H's general neighborhood, as it
has been mentioned a time or two in posts about mooring and storing
boats. Really, you guys should be more careful! :-)
The Anacostia River is nowhere near Deale. It is a tributary of the
Potomac and empties into it just south of Washington, D.C. The Potomac
empties into Chesapeake Bay about 40 miles south of Deale.

I've attached a map.

Deale is east of the DC area, on the Bay.

The Anacostia is the east side of the wye that feeds into the Potomac,
on the left side of the map.

Unfortunately, the lower income people who live in the "Anacostia"
portion of DC have for decades dumped trash into the river there. It's
really a pretty little river with a lot of potential, if it is ever
cleaned up. The new DC baseball stadium is being built along its banks.

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36

Perhaps you ought to stick to writing about boats built of unspecified
composites.

Well congrats to your local store for participating in the cleanup.

I didn't *really* suspect that you and John H were a big part of the
problem. :-)



John is not one of my favorite people here, but I have seen how he
maintains his boat and his old truck. He's fastidious, and I doubt he's
ever tossed his trash anywhere it wasn't supposed to go.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

John is not one of my favorite people here, but I have seen how he
maintains his boat and his old truck. He's fastidious, and I doubt he's
ever tossed his trash anywhere it wasn't supposed to go.


Except in here ...of course! ;-)

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:54?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Seems like the rivers around Washington DC require a period cleanup of
old cars, defunct refrigerators, worn out tires, CRT PC monitors and
other stuff that somebody must have figured was "outta sight, outta
mind". 40-million pounds of trash each year in the Anacostia River
alone- according to the attached item. (Good grief, that's almost 1-
million pounds of junk per week!)
I noticed that the WM Store in Deale, Md is participating in this
event. I think that's Harry's and John H's general neighborhood, as it
has been mentioned a time or two in posts about mooring and storing
boats. Really, you guys should be more careful! :-)
The Anacostia River is nowhere near Deale. It is a tributary of the
Potomac and empties into it just south of Washington, D.C. The Potomac
empties into Chesapeake Bay about 40 miles south of Deale.

I've attached a map.

Deale is east of the DC area, on the Bay.

The Anacostia is the east side of the wye that feeds into the Potomac,
on the left side of the map.

Unfortunately, the lower income people who live in the "Anacostia"
portion of DC have for decades dumped trash into the river there. It's
really a pretty little river with a lot of potential, if it is ever
cleaned up. The new DC baseball stadium is being built along its banks.

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36

Perhaps you ought to stick to writing about boats built of unspecified
composites.

Well congrats to your local store for participating in the cleanup.

I didn't *really* suspect that you and John H were a big part of the
problem. :-)



John is not one of my favorite people here, but I have seen how he
maintains his boat and his old truck. He's fastidious, and I doubt he's
ever tossed his trash anywhere it wasn't supposed to go.

.....except for right here in this newsgroup.

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:54:11 -0400, HK wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36


That's a nice map. Lately I haven't had much luck finding good maps
on the net - coastal, highway, you name it.
Might probably be my brain just isn't working right.
Do you - or anyone else - have favorite sites for maps.
Might be good to post the links. Yeah, it's me asking, but everybody
might benefit. I'll sure bookmark them, and I never lose bookmarks.

--Vic

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:54:11 -0400, HK wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36


That's a nice map. Lately I haven't had much luck finding good maps
on the net - coastal, highway, you name it.
Might probably be my brain just isn't working right.
Do you - or anyone else - have favorite sites for maps.
Might be good to post the links. Yeah, it's me asking, but everybody
might benefit. I'll sure bookmark them, and I never lose bookmarks.

--Vic

You might try Google Maps.

Personally I use Microsoft Streets and Trips and DeLorme Street Atlas USA.
I keep them on my notebook for times when the Internet is not available. I
also have GPS capability with both programs.

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:54:11 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36


That's a nice map. Lately I haven't had much luck finding good maps
on the net - coastal, highway, you name it.
Might probably be my brain just isn't working right.
Do you - or anyone else - have favorite sites for maps.
Might be good to post the links. Yeah, it's me asking, but everybody
might benefit. I'll sure bookmark them, and I never lose bookmarks.

--Vic


Screen cap from microsoft streets and trips.
Software program on my computer.

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:57:02 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:54:11 -0400, HK wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36


That's a nice map. Lately I haven't had much luck finding good maps
on the net - coastal, highway, you name it.
Might probably be my brain just isn't working right.
Do you - or anyone else - have favorite sites for maps.
Might be good to post the links. Yeah, it's me asking, but everybody
might benefit. I'll sure bookmark them, and I never lose bookmarks.

--Vic

You might try Google Maps.

Personally I use Microsoft Streets and Trips and DeLorme Street Atlas USA.
I keep them on my notebook for times when the Internet is not available. I
also have GPS capability with both programs.

I might go that route instead of horsing around trying to find what I
want on the net. I had Streets years ago when it first came out, but
think I gave it away. Thanks for the reminder.

--Vic

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:18:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:54:11 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36


That's a nice map. Lately I haven't had much luck finding good maps
on the net - coastal, highway, you name it.
Might probably be my brain just isn't working right.
Do you - or anyone else - have favorite sites for maps.
Might be good to post the links. Yeah, it's me asking, but everybody
might benefit. I'll sure bookmark them, and I never lose bookmarks.

--Vic


Screen cap from microsoft streets and trips.
Software program on my computer.

That's it then. I like that map, and assume Streets allows a measure
of zooming in/out to scale it to the area I'm interested in.
Is that right?

--Vic

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:18:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:54:11 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36

That's a nice map. Lately I haven't had much luck finding good maps
on the net - coastal, highway, you name it.
Might probably be my brain just isn't working right.
Do you - or anyone else - have favorite sites for maps.
Might be good to post the links. Yeah, it's me asking, but everybody
might benefit. I'll sure bookmark them, and I never lose bookmarks.

--Vic

Screen cap from microsoft streets and trips.
Software program on my computer.

That's it then. I like that map, and assume Streets allows a measure
of zooming in/out to scale it to the area I'm interested in.
Is that right?

--Vic


Yup. Stay away from the DeLorme package. It has a horrible interface.

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:34:01 -0400, HK wrote:



That's it then. I like that map, and assume Streets allows a measure
of zooming in/out to scale it to the area I'm interested in.
Is that right?

--Vic


Yup. Stay away from the DeLorme package. It has a horrible interface.

Thanks!

--Vic

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:18:48 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:54:11 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36

That's a nice map. Lately I haven't had much luck finding good maps
on the net - coastal, highway, you name it.
Might probably be my brain just isn't working right.
Do you - or anyone else - have favorite sites for maps.
Might be good to post the links. Yeah, it's me asking, but everybody
might benefit. I'll sure bookmark them, and I never lose bookmarks.

--Vic

Screen cap from microsoft streets and trips.
Software program on my computer.

That's it then. I like that map, and assume Streets allows a measure
of zooming in/out to scale it to the area I'm interested in.
Is that right?

--Vic


Yup. Stay away from the DeLorme package. It has a horrible interface.

Opinions are like belly buttons, everybody has one.

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:34:01 -0400, HK wrote:

That's it then. I like that map, and assume Streets allows a measure
of zooming in/out to scale it to the area I'm interested in.
Is that right?

--Vic


Yup. Stay away from the DeLorme package. It has a horrible interface.

If you take the time to learn it you'll probably like it. I've been
using it for years, actually used it to scout areas in Florida long
before we went house hunting there.

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:41:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:34:01 -0400, HK wrote:

That's it then. I like that map, and assume Streets allows a measure
of zooming in/out to scale it to the area I'm interested in.
Is that right?

--Vic


Yup. Stay away from the DeLorme package. It has a horrible interface.

If you take the time to learn it you'll probably like it. I've been
using it for years, actually used it to scout areas in Florida long
before we went house hunting there.

Any comparisons between the two? I'm about to snipe an Ebay Streets
and Trips, but might stay and get the Delorme too.

--Vic

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:55:44 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Any comparisons between the two? I'm about to snipe an Ebay Streets
and Trips, but might stay and get the Delorme too.

I've never used Streets and Trips. It may be a great package but
Delorme Street Atlas has always done everything I've needed. You can
also get it packaged with a nifty little USB GPS unit which I use with
my nav software on the boat.

Maps (Was: River Cleanup near Deale, MD.)
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:41:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:34:01 -0400, HK wrote:

That's it then. I like that map, and assume Streets allows a measure
of zooming in/out to scale it to the area I'm interested in.
Is that right?

--Vic


Yup. Stay away from the DeLorme package. It has a horrible interface.

If you take the time to learn it you'll probably like it. I've been
using it for years, actually used it to scout areas in Florida long
before we went house hunting there.

Any comparisons between the two? I'm about to snipe an Ebay Streets
and Trips, but might stay and get the Delorme too.

--Vic

I use both for the simple reason that both packages have errors. In my
experience the errors are most prevalent in newly developed areas. Streets
may be missing, incorrectly named or located in the wrong place.

I find both packages interface about equal. They both have their quirks
that just take time to learn, as Wayne pointed out.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:50:57 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:54?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Seems like the rivers around Washington DC require a period cleanup of
old cars, defunct refrigerators, worn out tires, CRT PC monitors and
other stuff that somebody must have figured was "outta sight, outta
mind". 40-million pounds of trash each year in the Anacostia River
alone- according to the attached item. (Good grief, that's almost 1-
million pounds of junk per week!)
I noticed that the WM Store in Deale, Md is participating in this
event. I think that's Harry's and John H's general neighborhood, as it
has been mentioned a time or two in posts about mooring and storing
boats. Really, you guys should be more careful! :-)
The Anacostia River is nowhere near Deale. It is a tributary of the
Potomac and empties into it just south of Washington, D.C. The Potomac
empties into Chesapeake Bay about 40 miles south of Deale.

I've attached a map.

Deale is east of the DC area, on the Bay.

The Anacostia is the east side of the wye that feeds into the Potomac,
on the left side of the map.

Unfortunately, the lower income people who live in the "Anacostia"
portion of DC have for decades dumped trash into the river there. It's
really a pretty little river with a lot of potential, if it is ever
cleaned up. The new DC baseball stadium is being built along its banks.

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36

Perhaps you ought to stick to writing about boats built of unspecified
composites.

Well congrats to your local store for participating in the cleanup.

I didn't *really* suspect that you and John H were a big part of the
problem. :-)



John is not one of my favorite people here, but I have seen how he
maintains his boat and his old truck. He's fastidious, and I doubt he's
ever tossed his trash anywhere it wasn't supposed to go.

Thanks. I've been on the Anacostia. It is definitely in need of cleaning,
and is probably the source of 90% of the pollution that gets into the
Potomac, except when a heavy rain floods the Blue Plains water treatment
plant, of course.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:50:57 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:54?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Seems like the rivers around Washington DC require a period cleanup of
old cars, defunct refrigerators, worn out tires, CRT PC monitors and
other stuff that somebody must have figured was "outta sight, outta
mind". 40-million pounds of trash each year in the Anacostia River
alone- according to the attached item. (Good grief, that's almost 1-
million pounds of junk per week!)
I noticed that the WM Store in Deale, Md is participating in this
event. I think that's Harry's and John H's general neighborhood, as it
has been mentioned a time or two in posts about mooring and storing
boats. Really, you guys should be more careful! :-)
The Anacostia River is nowhere near Deale. It is a tributary of the
Potomac and empties into it just south of Washington, D.C. The Potomac
empties into Chesapeake Bay about 40 miles south of Deale.

I've attached a map.

Deale is east of the DC area, on the Bay.

The Anacostia is the east side of the wye that feeds into the Potomac,
on the left side of the map.

Unfortunately, the lower income people who live in the "Anacostia"
portion of DC have for decades dumped trash into the river there. It's
really a pretty little river with a lot of potential, if it is ever
cleaned up. The new DC baseball stadium is being built along its banks.

http://tinyurl.com/2k5d36

Perhaps you ought to stick to writing about boats built of unspecified
composites.

Well congrats to your local store for participating in the cleanup.

I didn't *really* suspect that you and John H were a big part of the
problem. :-)



John is not one of my favorite people here, but I have seen how he
maintains his boat and his old truck. He's fastidious, and I doubt he's
ever tossed his trash anywhere it wasn't supposed to go.

Except for here, of course!

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:10:55 -0500, John H. wrote:


Thanks. I've been on the Anacostia. It is definitely in need of
cleaning, and is probably the source of 90% of the pollution that gets
into the Potomac, except when a heavy rain floods the Blue Plains water
treatment plant, of course.

Is that true? I thought that agricultural runoff was the number one source of Bay problems.
I've read that the Anacostia is the most polluted river in the Chesapeake watershed, and
perhaps, one of the most polluted rivers in the country. It's a shame, 30 years after the Clean
Water Act, this mess still continues.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

thunder wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:10:55 -0500, John H. wrote:


Thanks. I've been on the Anacostia. It is definitely in need of
cleaning, and is probably the source of 90% of the pollution that gets
into the Potomac, except when a heavy rain floods the Blue Plains water
treatment plant, of course.

Is that true? I thought that agricultural runoff was the number one source of Bay problems.
I've read that the Anacostia is the most polluted river in the Chesapeake watershed, and
perhaps, one of the most polluted rivers in the country. It's a shame, 30 years after the Clean
Water Act, this mess still continues.


It probably is true that the Anacostia is the source of most of the
pollution that gets into the Potomac, but the Potomac is only one of the
many sources of pollution in Chesapeake Bay.

The Blue Plains plant is south of the mouth of the Anacostia, just north
of the new bridges over the Potomac between Virginia and Maryland.

Amazingly, I almost always see guys fishing for largemouth bass just a
hair south of where the Blue Plains plant empties into the Potomac. Yikes!

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:47:09 -0400, HK wrote:


Amazingly, I almost always see guys fishing for largemouth bass just a
hair south of where the Blue Plains plant empties into the Potomac.
Yikes!

Hopefully, catch and release.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

thunder wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:47:09 -0400, HK wrote:


Amazingly, I almost always see guys fishing for largemouth bass just a
hair south of where the Blue Plains plant empties into the Potomac.
Yikes!

Hopefully, catch and release.


No. A recently published study showed that 47% of them took the fish
home for use as family meals. Next thing you know, they began to vote
Republican.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:40:17 -0000, thunder wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:10:55 -0500, John H. wrote:


Thanks. I've been on the Anacostia. It is definitely in need of
cleaning, and is probably the source of 90% of the pollution that gets
into the Potomac, except when a heavy rain floods the Blue Plains water
treatment plant, of course.

Is that true? I thought that agricultural runoff was the number one source of Bay problems.
I've read that the Anacostia is the most polluted river in the Chesapeake watershed, and
perhaps, one of the most polluted rivers in the country. It's a shame, 30 years after the Clean
Water Act, this mess still continues.

I didn't say it was the source of Bay pollution, I said 'Potomac', as in
Potomac River, which is only one of the many sources of Bay pollution.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

" JimH" ask wrote in message
...

Starting another fight tonight John?

Jeez........this has to be about the 6th one you started after returning
from your cruise filled with snot nosed screaming brats today.

You and Reggie need to take some chill pills.


I think they're just so excited to see each other again, they're besides
themselves.

River Cleanup near Deale, MD.
 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:11:23 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


" JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

Starting another fight tonight John?

Jeez........this has to be about the 6th one you started after returning
from your cruise filled with snot nosed screaming brats today.

You and Reggie need to take some chill pills.


I think they're just so excited to see each other again, they're besides
themselves.


And how's your mom, Don?