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db October 22nd 07 02:39 PM

outboard motors
 
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east
end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were
always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water
was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier
today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech
but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you
who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know
today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw
Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then).
thanks.

Don White October 22nd 07 02:47 PM

outboard motors
 

db wrote in message ...
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east
end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were
always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water
was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier
today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech
but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you
who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know
today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw
Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then).
thanks.


Around here (Nova Scotia) a lot of smaller keelboats leave the outboard on
the transom all season.
For trailerable boats, I'd flush the cooling system after every outing with
fresh water.



HK October 22nd 07 02:48 PM

outboard motors
 
db wrote:
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east
end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were
always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water
was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier
today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech
but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you
who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know
today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw
Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then).
thanks.



Four cycle engines outsell the two cycle engines these days, especially
on larger boats. Salt water is less of a problem, especially if you plug
a fresh water hose into the inlet most outboards have for flushing.

If I were buying right now, I'd go four cycle and then within that type,
Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Mercury. The Evinrude/Johnson company went kaput
some years ago, but its brand names were purchased and are now owned by
Bombardier. It offers some advanced tech two cycle engines, and those
who buy them like them, but the company doesn't have much market
penetration.


[email protected] October 22nd 07 04:42 PM

outboard motors
 
On Mon, 22 Oct '07 08:39am, db wrote:
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east
end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were
always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water
was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier
today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech
but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you
who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know
today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw
Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then).
thanks.


1st thing you'd notice, the high HP motors are higher. You don't have
to settle for an I/O anymore for a 5,000 lb boat.
2nd, in the lower HP range, they're getting more power out of less
weight.
3rd, buying a four cycle motor doesn't mean just "Homelite" any more.
They all offer 'em.
4th, reliability, upside is, they don't seem to break down as often
(at least while they're still new). Downside though, when they break
down, you're less likely to be able to fix it yourself. Fuel injection
and computer controlled electronic ignition aren't as easily patched
out on the water (i.e. people can't afford to carry spares for that
stuff). And even the new carburetors are more complex. So expect to be
towed home as often as before. But expect to pay $ a pro for the tow
these days (a six pack'o Bud won't cut it anymore), Many members of
the boating public simply don't look out for each other like they use
to.
5th, expense. They're a LOT more expensive to buy. And a lot more
expensive to maintain than they used to be. I bought a new 20hp Honda
a couple of years ago. I paid about the same for it as I paid for a
new 19' Thunderbird in 1971. By now, I've thrown in another 30% (of
the purchase price) for maintenance and repairs. IMHO, that's
ridiculous for a little motor like that. But.... whutcha gonna do?

Rick ---- just my 2 cents

Calif Bill October 24th 07 07:38 PM

outboard motors
 

db wrote in message ...
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east
end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were
always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water
was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier
today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech
but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you
who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know
today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw
Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then).
thanks.



Lots of the improvement is via Materials Science. Better alloys. Better
rubber hoses, etc.



Dan October 25th 07 01:54 AM

outboard motors
 
Don White wrote:
db wrote in message ...
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east
end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were
always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water
was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier
today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech
but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you
who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know
today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw
Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then).
thanks.


Around here (Nova Scotia) a lot of smaller keelboats leave the outboard on
the transom all season.
For trailerable boats, I'd flush the cooling system after every outing with
fresh water.



Wow.

Don White October 25th 07 03:19 AM

outboard motors
 

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
db wrote in message ...
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east
end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were
always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water
was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier
today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech
but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you
who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know
today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw
Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then).
thanks.


Around here (Nova Scotia) a lot of smaller keelboats leave the outboard
on the transom all season.
For trailerable boats, I'd flush the cooling system after every outing
with fresh water.



Wow.



This is boating talk Dingy Dan...you wouldn't be interested!




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