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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator. Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea Pro
up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great fishing
along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular destination.
Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of tee-shirts leftover from
my last trip there.

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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator. Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea Pro
up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great fishing
along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular destination.
Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of tee-shirts leftover from
my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or to
contend with the barges on the ICW?

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers
heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some
quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least.
If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own
channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator.
Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea Pro
up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great
fishing along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular
destination. Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of
tee-shirts leftover from my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or to
contend with the barges on the ICW?



Why would you care? You're not going to encounter the ocean or the barges.

For what it is worth, the ICW run is far more interesting visually.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...


So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or to
contend with the barges on the ICW?


You asked Harry, but I'll give you my opinion.

There were a couple of places that we passed close by to a long train of
barges being towed by a large tugboat. The train was so long that several
small tugs were attached along the length of the multiple barge train to
help steer the whole thing around bends.

These barges take up the center of the channel in the ICW. In order for us
to pass (in opposing directions) the Navigator, at 52' LOA, 15' beam and
drawing 4.5' was within 12-15 feet abeam of the barge train, and still my
depth alarm was going off.

A smaller boat, with an outboard or I/0 could easily move out of the main
channel, even stop and tilt the engine up, until the barge passed.

There are notices of barge and large ship movements made available to boats
transiting those sections of the ICW so you can avoid having to deal with
it.

Eisboch

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers
heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some
quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least.
If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own
channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator.
Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea
Pro up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great
fishing along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular
destination. Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of
tee-shirts leftover from my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or
to contend with the barges on the ICW?



Why would you care? You're not going to encounter the ocean or the barges.

For what it is worth, the ICW run is far more interesting visually.

Well thanks for your input. I am really surprised that you made the
"jump" dozens of times, since you have always said you don't like taking
long trips in the boat, and you would prefer to drive or fly somewhere
and then rent a boat, than to make a slow trip in a boat. I guess you
have changed your mind since you made the trip "dozens" of times.

I am surprised that this is the first time you mentioned all of these
many trips to St. Simons and area, it really is a nice place both
fishing in the area and on land.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers
heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some
quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the
least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own
channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator.
Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW
turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea
Pro up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great
fishing along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular
destination. Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of
tee-shirts leftover from my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or
to contend with the barges on the ICW?



Why would you care? You're not going to encounter the ocean or the
barges.

For what it is worth, the ICW run is far more interesting visually.

Well thanks for your input. I am really surprised that you made the
"jump" dozens of times, since you have always said you don't like taking
long trips in the boat, and you would prefer to drive or fly somewhere
and then rent a boat, than to make a slow trip in a boat. I guess you
have changed your mind since you made the trip "dozens" of times.

I am surprised that this is the first time you mentioned all of these
many trips to St. Simons and area, it really is a nice place both
fishing in the area and on land.



D'oh. It isn't that long a trip, about 60 miles from Mayport to St.
Simons by boat, less than two hours on a good day, and another hour from
St. Augustine. I probably fished 70% of the creeks between the St. Johns
River and Nassau Sound along the ICE, and would many times head farther
north to catch different tides.

You really don't know much about coastal boating or in fact any sort of
boating. It shows.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Well thanks for your input. I am really surprised that you made the
"jump" dozens of times, since you have always said you don't like taking
long trips in the boat, and you would prefer to drive or fly somewhere
and then rent a boat, than to make a slow trip in a boat. I guess you
have changed your mind since you made the trip "dozens" of times.

I am surprised that this is the first time you mentioned all of these
many trips to St. Simons and area, it really is a nice place both fishing
in the area and on land.


D'oh. It isn't that long a trip, about 60 miles from Mayport to St. Simons
by boat, less than two hours on a good day, and another hour from St.
Augustine. I probably fished 70% of the creeks between the St. Johns River
and Nassau Sound along the ICE, and would many times head farther north to
catch different tides.

You really don't know much about coastal boating or in fact any sort of
boating. It shows.




Jim Gallow/On Lanier/Reggie has shown repeatedly, including in this thread,
that his only purpose here is to stir the crap.

Why do you bother with him?





I dunno. He's sort of like a pimple...you just want to squeeze out the
pus, even though your mommy said to leave it alone. The guy knows less
about boating from an experience point of view than anyone else who
posts here.

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:28:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.


Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.

No doubt, but the real secret is not to head out unless weather
conditions are right.

Thanks to the US Navy there is very good information available:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/ww3_cgi/c...or=w&area=natl

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:28:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.

No doubt, but the real secret is not to head out unless weather
conditions are right.

Thanks to the US Navy there is very good information available:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/ww3_cgi/c...or=w&area=natl


Sorry, your URL isn't working for me.

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?

Well, as usual you are wrong on a number of key points. In particular
you seem to be confusing a stabilized, twin engine GB49 with some type
of lesser vessel. We don't wallow, ever. Never have, never will.

Running north we are typically 70 to 80 miles offshore passing
Jacksonville, close to the rhumb line from Port St Lucie to
Charleston, SC. Small wonder that you didn't see any similar boats,
it really wouldn't be safe in something like yours.

Coming south we like to hang right off the beach running outside
during the day, several miles off at night. It's much faster outside
because of deeper water and lack of low bridges (our air draft is over
28 feet). The scenery along the beach is quite nice also.