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One more note - I nearly missed the main reason for posting...

This weekend I have appointments to view 3 Cat 25's - all different layouts
(Capri, Dinette, traditional) could you folks chime in with your thoughts on
the advantages of each layout?


Not specific to the cat you are looking at but call an insurance agent.
They are all different in that the age of the boat may mean it has to be
hauled out for a marine survey before they will insure it. Age can be a
factor and IIRC the cat 25 is about a 20 year old design? I think it
would have to be no older then 10 years to not require a haul out or at
least a in water survey.

The insurance will require any safety issues be corrected before they
will insure the boat.

Also make sure you have a marina that will take you and a way to get the
boat there. The marina will require current registration and insurance.
They may want a photo of the boat or a marine survey to make sure you
aren't just dumping a ghetto boat on them.

At any rate, for $300 a marine survey and maybe another $300 for a haul
out may not be a bad idea before you spend $10,000 on the boat.

Rick
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Most Important:
Find either a surveyor that a friend has experience with of one that is
hated by brokers. If a broker recommends a surveyor, write the name
very carefully so are are sure you do not end up using that surveyor.
Brokers recommend surveyor that do not cost them sales.
Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Marine and Pathological Sailor


Rick Cortese wrote:
Prospector via BoatKB.com wrote:
One more note - I nearly missed the main reason for posting...

This weekend I have appointments to view 3 Cat 25's - all different
layouts
(Capri, Dinette, traditional) could you folks chime in with your
thoughts on
the advantages of each layout?


Not specific to the cat you are looking at but call an insurance agent.
They are all different in that the age of the boat may mean it has to be
hauled out for a marine survey before they will insure it. Age can be a
factor and IIRC the cat 25 is about a 20 year old design? I think it
would have to be no older then 10 years to not require a haul out or at
least a in water survey.

The insurance will require any safety issues be corrected before they
will insure the boat.

Also make sure you have a marina that will take you and a way to get the
boat there. The marina will require current registration and insurance.
They may want a photo of the boat or a marine survey to make sure you
aren't just dumping a ghetto boat on them.

At any rate, for $300 a marine survey and maybe another $300 for a haul
out may not be a bad idea before you spend $10,000 on the boat.

Rick

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Well the viewings were interesting - some looked great, some were trampolines
with sails. We have narrowed the field to 3 boats, and will be making offers
tonight. Its an interesting thing boat shopping.

You can tell the eager sellers, and the not so eager ones. Some of the better
deals showed up in unexpected places, and now that our club is aware that we
are actively shopping, I seem to be getting listing in my inbox every day.
Its been quite a ride.

Does anyone on this board have a reputable surveyor they can reccoment in the
Lake St. Clair area? (Windsor, Detroit, Sarnia??)

Thanks in advance,
Chris Potvin




Matt Colie wrote:
Most Important:
Find either a surveyor that a friend has experience with of one that is
hated by brokers. If a broker recommends a surveyor, write the name
very carefully so are are sure you do not end up using that surveyor.
Brokers recommend surveyor that do not cost them sales.
Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Marine and Pathological Sailor

One more note - I nearly missed the main reason for posting...

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Thanks Rick - I was planning on a survey no matter what. We sail with a local
club and are aware of the rules etc. trouble is our club is something of an
"Economy Style" outfit, so we will have to find another spot with a lift on
our lake. That and draft are the biggest challenges to ownership for us. I am
fortunate to have a close friend lending a hand in shopping. He a crusty
grumpy guy who thinks nothing is good enough which is at once but frustrating
and helpful. He demands that before an offer is put together the boat be
sailed and seen on the hard. I tend to agree.

Rick Cortese wrote:
One more note - I nearly missed the main reason for posting...

This weekend I have appointments to view 3 Cat 25's - all different layouts
(Capri, Dinette, traditional) could you folks chime in with your thoughts on
the advantages of each layout?


Not specific to the cat you are looking at but call an insurance agent.
They are all different in that the age of the boat may mean it has to be
hauled out for a marine survey before they will insure it. Age can be a
factor and IIRC the cat 25 is about a 20 year old design? I think it
would have to be no older then 10 years to not require a haul out or at
least a in water survey.

The insurance will require any safety issues be corrected before they
will insure the boat.

Also make sure you have a marina that will take you and a way to get the
boat there. The marina will require current registration and insurance.
They may want a photo of the boat or a marine survey to make sure you
aren't just dumping a ghetto boat on them.

At any rate, for $300 a marine survey and maybe another $300 for a haul
out may not be a bad idea before you spend $10,000 on the boat.

Rick


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