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On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, John H. wrote:
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John H. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! I'll give you $1000 cash money if it has the published capacity with that standard transmission to tow my boat and it passes inspection. |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Don't go any lower, if you are not in a hurry someone will give it to you. Just got to find the person who wants that truck... Hot damn! My 1995 Plymouth Voyager has only 149000km (just under 93K of your miles) Wonder what I could sell it for down there? |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Don't go any lower, if you are not in a hurry someone will give it to you. Just got to find the person who wants that truck... Hot damn! My 1995 Plymouth Voyager has only 149000km (just under 93K of your miles) Wonder what I could sell it for down there? I got 1500 US Dollars for mine 3 years ago. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Oct 4, 3:35?pm, John H. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! 'Tis a brave man who posts his phone number in the NG. :-) |
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On Oct 4, 3:35?pm, John H. wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Seems like a fair price, but that stick shfit makes it less desirable than an automatic as a light duty tow rig. As we used to say in the car biz; "There's a butt for every seat." Hope you find the right prospect. |
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On Oct 4, 3:05?pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Don't go any lower, if you are not in a hurry someone will give it to you. Just got to find the person who wants that truck... Hot damn! My 1995 Plymouth Voyager has only 149000km (just under 93K of your miles) Wonder what I could sell it for down there? Mitsubishi 6? (If so, not much) |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:58:11 -0400, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! I'll give you $1000 cash money if it has the published capacity with that standard transmission to tow my boat and it passes inspection. It'll definitely tow your boat. But not for $1000. |
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:05:15 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Don't go any lower, if you are not in a hurry someone will give it to you. Just got to find the person who wants that truck... Hot damn! My 1995 Plymouth Voyager has only 149000km (just under 93K of your miles) Wonder what I could sell it for down there? Will it pull a 6000lb boat and trailer? Can you haul two yards of mulch in the back end? |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:29:00 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: On Oct 4, 3:35?pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! 'Tis a brave man who posts his phone number in the NG. :-) You think there's anyone here who can't use 'anywho'? |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:34:44 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: On Oct 4, 3:35?pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Seems like a fair price, but that stick shfit makes it less desirable than an automatic as a light duty tow rig. As we used to say in the car biz; "There's a butt for every seat." Hope you find the right prospect. My thoughts are just the opposite. The first gear in this thing is a 'granny'...very low. I start, as per the book, in second gear, unless I'm towing a load. The manual trans allows me to play the clutch and get traction, even when the 4WD automatics are sliding into ditches during some snow. I wish I could have gotten the 4Runner with a manual trans. |
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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:58:11 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! I'll give you $1000 cash money if it has the published capacity with that standard transmission to tow my boat and it passes inspection. It'll definitely tow your boat. But not for $1000. No offense to your truck, cause I am sure it is ok. But it is a very high mileage vehicle, especially for a gasoline engined truck of that vintage. |
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On Oct 4, 4:44?pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:34:44 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 4, 3:35?pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Seems like a fair price, but that stick shfit makes it less desirable than an automatic as a light duty tow rig. As we used to say in the car biz; "There's a butt for every seat." Hope you find the right prospect. My thoughts are just the opposite. The first gear in this thing is a 'granny'...very low. I start, as per the book, in second gear, unless I'm towing a load. The manual trans allows me to play the clutch and get traction, even when the 4WD automatics are sliding into ditches during some snow. I wish I could have gotten the 4Runner with a manual trans. The granny is nice, better than 1,2,3,4 OD. But you alluded to the weakness in the system with your reference to "slipping the clutch". Most people will burn out a lot of clutches if they tow very often, thereby eliminating any savings in fuel economy or initial purchase price when compared to the automatic. While long haul tractors are manual transmissions and are designed strictly for towing, it's a different scenario entirely. When I learned to drive in the early 70's we had a Fuller Road Ranger transmission with 15-gears (not 4-5) so the torque range for each gear was pretty minimal. By carefully watching the tach we could time the shifting so that we didn't even need to use the clutch except when starting or stopping. If I remember correctly the shift points were at 1800 and 2200. To shift from 4th to 5th, for example, you would run the RPM up to the 2200 level in 4th, pull the shifter into neutral, back off the throttle to bring rpm down to 1800 and just as it got to 1800 shove the selector into 5th. Going down was the reverse, raise the rpm to the upper end of the shifting range and then jam the next lower gear into place. The transmissions didn't have "synchros" in the typical sense, but the gears were sized so that they would synchronize with the output shaft at the stated RPM. The tricky bit with the 15-speed tranny was going between the lower and upper halves of the shift pattern (Top gears were a repeat of the lower gears, but with a hydraulic knob pulled). With 12-18 gears to choose from, a manual is a pretty good choice for towing. With only 4-5 gears between no-load and 80 MPH- I think the progressive torque curve of an automatic is a better choice. |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:35:00 -0500, John H.
wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! What size engine is in it? Mark E. Williams |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 4, 4:44?pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:34:44 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 4, 3:35?pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Seems like a fair price, but that stick shfit makes it less desirable than an automatic as a light duty tow rig. As we used to say in the car biz; "There's a butt for every seat." Hope you find the right prospect. My thoughts are just the opposite. The first gear in this thing is a 'granny'...very low. I start, as per the book, in second gear, unless I'm towing a load. The manual trans allows me to play the clutch and get traction, even when the 4WD automatics are sliding into ditches during some snow. I wish I could have gotten the 4Runner with a manual trans. The granny is nice, better than 1,2,3,4 OD. But you alluded to the weakness in the system with your reference to "slipping the clutch". Most people will burn out a lot of clutches if they tow very often, thereby eliminating any savings in fuel economy or initial purchase price when compared to the automatic. While long haul tractors are manual transmissions and are designed strictly for towing, it's a different scenario entirely. When I learned to drive in the early 70's we had a Fuller Road Ranger transmission with 15-gears (not 4-5) so the torque range for each gear was pretty minimal. By carefully watching the tach we could time the shifting so that we didn't even need to use the clutch except when starting or stopping. If I remember correctly the shift points were at 1800 and 2200. To shift from 4th to 5th, for example, you would run the RPM up to the 2200 level in 4th, pull the shifter into neutral, back off the throttle to bring rpm down to 1800 and just as it got to 1800 shove the selector into 5th. Going down was the reverse, raise the rpm to the upper end of the shifting range and then jam the next lower gear into place. The transmissions didn't have "synchros" in the typical sense, but the gears were sized so that they would synchronize with the output shaft at the stated RPM. The tricky bit with the 15-speed tranny was going between the lower and upper halves of the shift pattern (Top gears were a repeat of the lower gears, but with a hydraulic knob pulled). With 12-18 gears to choose from, a manual is a pretty good choice for towing. With only 4-5 gears between no-load and 80 MPH- I think the progressive torque curve of an automatic is a better choice. When I leased the 2006 Ranger pickup the salesman said the automatic was a better choice for towing with the 3.0 V6 |
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JimH wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Don't go any lower, if you are not in a hurry someone will give it to you. Just got to find the person who wants that truck... This could be the best option for John, especially considering his past efforts here soliciting donations for worthy causes (do not take offense to this John as it was not intended to discredit you in any way): http://www.thesalvationarmycardonationprogram.org/ The SA is a great charity. Good use of money, low Operating Expense, but why in the world is the the best option? |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:51:52 -0400, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:58:11 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! I'll give you $1000 cash money if it has the published capacity with that standard transmission to tow my boat and it passes inspection. It'll definitely tow your boat. But not for $1000. No offense to your truck, cause I am sure it is ok. But it is a very high mileage vehicle, especially for a gasoline engined truck of that vintage. Yes, it is that. But it still goes for about 3000 miles before it will take a quart of oil. That's even surprising to me, given that it's a GM. |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:08:21 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: On Oct 4, 4:44?pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:34:44 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 4, 3:35?pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Seems like a fair price, but that stick shfit makes it less desirable than an automatic as a light duty tow rig. As we used to say in the car biz; "There's a butt for every seat." Hope you find the right prospect. My thoughts are just the opposite. The first gear in this thing is a 'granny'...very low. I start, as per the book, in second gear, unless I'm towing a load. The manual trans allows me to play the clutch and get traction, even when the 4WD automatics are sliding into ditches during some snow. I wish I could have gotten the 4Runner with a manual trans. The granny is nice, better than 1,2,3,4 OD. But you alluded to the weakness in the system with your reference to "slipping the clutch". Most people will burn out a lot of clutches if they tow very often, thereby eliminating any savings in fuel economy or initial purchase price when compared to the automatic. While long haul tractors are manual transmissions and are designed strictly for towing, it's a different scenario entirely. When I learned to drive in the early 70's we had a Fuller Road Ranger transmission with 15-gears (not 4-5) so the torque range for each gear was pretty minimal. By carefully watching the tach we could time the shifting so that we didn't even need to use the clutch except when starting or stopping. If I remember correctly the shift points were at 1800 and 2200. To shift from 4th to 5th, for example, you would run the RPM up to the 2200 level in 4th, pull the shifter into neutral, back off the throttle to bring rpm down to 1800 and just as it got to 1800 shove the selector into 5th. Going down was the reverse, raise the rpm to the upper end of the shifting range and then jam the next lower gear into place. The transmissions didn't have "synchros" in the typical sense, but the gears were sized so that they would synchronize with the output shaft at the stated RPM. The tricky bit with the 15-speed tranny was going between the lower and upper halves of the shift pattern (Top gears were a repeat of the lower gears, but with a hydraulic knob pulled). With 12-18 gears to choose from, a manual is a pretty good choice for towing. With only 4-5 gears between no-load and 80 MPH- I think the progressive torque curve of an automatic is a better choice. I've slipped the clutch only in snow, for traction. The granny gear doesn't need any slipping. Some clutch slippage is always necessary unless a very jerky engagement is desired. The first clutch was replaced after about 100,000 miles, so this one is a baby. I ruined the first one trying to pull the boat out when the trailer wheels had gove over the lip of the ramp. Now *that* was some slippage! It lasted about another 20,000, with me babying it, but then got to where it wouldn't pull the truck away from a stop sign. |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:10:46 -0500, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:35:00 -0500, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! What size engine is in it? Mark E. Williams Damn! Now I'll have to change the ad! The 350 cu in, V8. |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:52:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: JimH wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, John H. wrote: http://tinyurl.com/29egny Now don't everybody jump at once! Don't go any lower, if you are not in a hurry someone will give it to you. Just got to find the person who wants that truck... This could be the best option for John, especially considering his past efforts here soliciting donations for worthy causes (do not take offense to this John as it was not intended to discredit you in any way): http://www.thesalvationarmycardonationprogram.org/ The SA is a great charity. Good use of money, low Operating Expense, but why in the world is the the best option? Yeah, especially when one option is just keeping it! |
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:22:01 -0500, John H.
wrote: Yes, it is that. But it still goes for about 3000 miles before it will take a quart of oil. That's even surprising to me, given that it's a GM. None of my GM's were oil burners or leakers. |
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