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John H. October 3rd 07 02:37 PM

Fish Cannon
 
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:08:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:00:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:32:02 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:55:33 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:30:31 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:06:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:39:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
news:1191364544.333258.194050@57g2000hsv. googlegroups.com...
On Oct 2, 3:26?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
I like that feature, but I don't see it in the West Marine
catalog.http://cgvi.uscg.mil/media/main.php?..._imageViewsInd...

No reference to a fish cannon at your link. ???

But it may be similar to a "herring charge". When my granddad served
on destroyer escorts in the British Navy, WWI, detecting a German U
boat always resulted in fresh fish for dinner. In his personal log
from the war, he describes how the mess hands would run out on deck
with long handled nets during depth charge runs and scoop up huge
quantities of stunned fish.

Sometimes you hear about rednecks supposedly doing some catfishin'
with dynamite. Probably 99% urban legend, but the results would be
similar to Grandpa's depth charges- if on a smaller scale.


Chuck, you have a big boat, but you can't afford new glasses? Look at
the
picture, directly above the guy in the yellow helmet. It's a fish
cannon.

I am not in the mood to explain simple things tonight. Get with the
program,
please.

I have no idea what a fish cannon is unless you are talking down
riggers.

Oh no. Not you too! :-)

Well, I've never heard of a "fish cannon". It looks like the type of
artillery that uses a rocket powered shell of some sort, but why they
would call it a fish cannon I have no idea.

Got a reference to fish cannon?

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but not
fish cannon.

I was thinking about 105mm, or maybe even 5 inch, not knowing anything
about how the things are armed.

The only reference I could find on "fish cannon" was on a gaming group
for Halo 2.

Which means this is probably Doug's very sad attempt at some sort of
"humor".


He's trying to entice us into some sort of political argument wherein 'fish
cannon' play a major role.

After hours of research, I came up with this:

http://tinyurl.com/2eyxnp


What the hell has happened to the yute of today?


Sickos, every one. I think someone made a movie about 'em.

John H. October 3rd 07 04:17 PM

Fish Cannon
 
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:13:08 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:30:31 -0700, CalifBill penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:06:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:39:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
glegroups.com...
On Oct 2, 3:26?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
I like that feature, but I don't see it in the West Marine
catalog.http://cgvi.uscg.mil/media/main.php?..._imageViewsInd...

No reference to a fish cannon at your link. ???

But it may be similar to a "herring charge". When my granddad served
on destroyer escorts in the British Navy, WWI, detecting a German U
boat always resulted in fresh fish for dinner. In his personal log
from the war, he describes how the mess hands would run out on deck
with long handled nets during depth charge runs and scoop up huge
quantities of stunned fish.

Sometimes you hear about rednecks supposedly doing some catfishin'
with dynamite. Probably 99% urban legend, but the results would be
similar to Grandpa's depth charges- if on a smaller scale.


Chuck, you have a big boat, but you can't afford new glasses? Look at
the
picture, directly above the guy in the yellow helmet. It's a fish
cannon.

I am not in the mood to explain simple things tonight. Get with the
program,
please.

I have no idea what a fish cannon is unless you are talking down
riggers.

Oh no. Not you too! :-)

Well, I've never heard of a "fish cannon". It looks like the type of
artillery that uses a rocket powered shell of some sort, but why they
would call it a fish cannon I have no idea.

Got a reference to fish cannon?


It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but not
fish cannon.


Wrong. It is a 62 caliber 76mm Otobreda.


I'm a believer.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 04:55 PM

Fish Cannon
 
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:13:08 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

62 caliber 76mm Otobreda


It shoots 62 caliber fish?

What kind of fish?

JoeSpareBedroom October 3rd 07 05:00 PM

Fish Cannon
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:13:08 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

62 caliber 76mm Otobreda


It shoots 62 caliber fish?

What kind of fish?


Any fish that size, except sea robins, because of those weird fins. That
decreases their velocity, which results in a failure to expand properly when
they hit their target.



Wayne.B October 3rd 07 05:12 PM

Fish Cannon
 
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:17:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but not
fish cannon.


Wrong. It is a 62 caliber 76mm Otobreda.


I'm a believer.


It certainly looks a lot bigger than 25mm, that's only 1 inch.

I don't understand the 62 caliber reference at all.

Wayne.B October 3rd 07 05:14 PM

Fish Cannon
 
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:12:00 -0400, wrote:

5"/54. That replaced the 5"/38 the Navy and CG used since the days of
coal fired ships. The extra barrel length increased the range about
5000 meters and that gun is auto loading. It also has a much better
fire control system.


Radar controlled and pitch/roll compensated I assume? What is the
firing rate?

John H. October 3rd 07 06:01 PM

Fish Cannon
 
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:55:59 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:13:08 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

62 caliber 76mm Otobreda


It shoots 62 caliber fish?

What kind of fish?


Steelheads?

JoeSpareBedroom October 3rd 07 06:11 PM

Fish Cannon
 
"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:17:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but
not
fish cannon.


Wrong. It is a 62 caliber 76mm Otobreda.

I'm a believer.


It certainly looks a lot bigger than 25mm, that's only 1 inch.

I don't understand the 62 caliber reference at all.


Well, I looked it up, and it is called that. It's also called a 3" gun.
Maybe Tom can explain how 62 calibre equates to 76mm. He knows a lot about
guns.



For small arms, a number like .45 cal means .45 of an inch. Assuming big
guns are the same way, all you need to do is convert to millimeters.



HK October 3rd 07 06:19 PM

Fish Cannon
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:12:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:17:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

It is a 25mm cannon. Never heard of a fish cannon. Potato gun, but not
fish cannon.

Wrong. It is a 62 caliber 76mm Otobreda.
I'm a believer.

It certainly looks a lot bigger than 25mm, that's only 1 inch.

I don't understand the 62 caliber reference at all.


Well, I looked it up, and it is called that. It's also called a 3" gun.
Maybe Tom can explain how 62 calibre equates to 76mm. He knows a lot about
guns.



A 3" gun? Not much of a lady pleaser.

JoeSpareBedroom October 3rd 07 06:38 PM

Fish Cannon
 
wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:11:27 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Tom can explain how 62 calibre equates to 76mm. He knows a lot about
guns.



For small arms, a number like .45 cal means .45 of an inch. Assuming big
guns are the same way, all you need to do is convert to millimeters.



In naval rifles "caliber" refers to the barrel length as a ratio to
its bore. a 5"/38 is 5" bore and 38 times that, long. (190")
The same is true of a 3"/50 or a 16"/45 (the North Carolina class
battleship gun) of the 16"/50 (used on the Iowa class ship)
There are also 3 classes of ammo.
The 3"/50 uses "fixed" ammo. A complete round like small arms ammo.
The 5" guns use semi-fixed ammo, a shell casing with the propellant
and a separate projectile. This gives you a lot more versitility in
your fire.
The big guns like the 16" use bags of powder and the projectile. This
is mostly to make it manageable for the crew but it does allow more
versitility too..



OK, so what's a 76mm gun, then?




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