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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:17:11 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Why would one want to go to a bar to met wimmez?

Seems counter productive.

Not if you want one that drinks. :-)

Ah - well...

Arrrrrrgh...

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Sep 19, 9:22?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:03?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 19, 6:28?am, HK wrote:
...Annual Talk Like A Pirate Day!
Arrrrgh!
According to the TLAPD website, a commonly used pickup line in
"pirate
bars" is "prepare to be boarded!" It's been a long, long time since I
was single, but it's hard to imagine such an approach resulting in a
lot of "booty".
The whole concept is silly as heck, and historically inaccurate to
boot.
Oh well, some folks will have a lot of fun with it so......happy
"Talk
like Hollywood script writers think pirates talked day" :-)
Find that bottle of "Mellow Yellow," Chuck, and take all of them. I
know
you are a really serious guy and disdainful of anyone whose idea of
fun
is different from yours. You're probably the only guy in the world
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Harry, do try to read for content.

I remarked:

"The whole concept is silly as heck, and historically inaccurate to
boot.
Oh well, some folks will have a lot of fun with it so......happy
"Talk
like Hollywood script writers think pirates talked day" :-)

Note:

1. Described the concept as "silly". (You're not serious, I hope).
2. Noted that while the "pirate speak" is historically inaccurate, it
would be a lot of fun for some folks and wished them a happy "Talk
like Hollywood script writers think pirates talked day".

That includes you, Harry. Have a happy cartoon pirate day. Really, I
mean it.

I had no idea you were a graduate expert in language and dialogue, and
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*All* pirates didn't speak in any particular manner, Harry.

Most of the cartoon "pirate speak" emulates somebody giving orders,
("Swab the deck, ye bloody *******s!") and usually in a derogatory or
threatening tone. It's probable that a lot of people have little or no
appreciation for the overall lack of formal command aboard most
traditional pirate ships. The pirates of the 17th and 18th centuries
were organized very democratically. (Some rec.boaters will hurry to
agree that there are a lot of Democratic pirates still afoot, but
that's a different issue.....).

Aboard most pirate vessels, the Captain had little or no authority
except when planning strategy and conducting boardings. The primary
authority for most issues was the Quartermaster. Both Captain and
Quartermaster were elected positions, and if either officer got too
high-hatted or abusive the crew could easily unelect (or otherwise
dispose of) them and frequently did. Nearly everybody aboard got an
equal share.

Among English speakers, the practice of piracy was exacerbated by
certain policies of the British Navy. As most people know, "landsmen"
were pressed into involuntary service aboard British warships, with an
indiscriminate dragnet sweeping through most coastal towns and
villages whenever a ship needed to replace crew. When the current bout
of perpetual war with France concluded and less manpower was needed,
the draftees would be mustered out wherever in the world their warship
happened to be......there was no effort made to return the poor sods
back to their place of origin where families could be reunited, trades
or farming could be resumed, etc. With the pittance paid to many of
these pressed men, they had no means to book an expensive passage back
home- and in fact had no real reason to anticpate that they would
still have a home, a family, a farm, a shop, or whatever. Piracy
seemed like a decent alternative- a chance to put the newly acquired
skills of seizing ships on the high seas to good use.

Discipline on the British warships was often indeed as harsh as still
portrayed. The British were very class conscious, and the officers
were from privilieged backgrounds while the common seamen were not.
Nobody gave much though to administering severe punishment for minor
offenses. When mustered out British tars took to piracy, they were
generally unwilling to endure the same sort of treatment from officers
that they experienced in the Navy. Discipline was very lax aboard most
pirate vessels, so the barking of orders coupled with insults would be
an uncommon event.

How did 17th and 18th century pirates talk? Pretty much like common
folks in any coastal town or village of the era would talk. The
nautical terms in their vocabulary would be little or no different
than the nautical terms in the vocabulary of any seaman- merchant,
Navy, pirate, or "privateer".


They would of talked loudly. Most of the reason for the impressments of
seaman was that after a cruise and a battle or two most were to deaf to hear
orders. So replacements were needed.

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Will you next declare that all or most pirates had missing eyes,
wooden legs, and kept parrots as pets? :-)

Hey Chuck I'll put in my two cents here. many pirates did have
missing limbs because battle was a way of life along with poor medical
facilities. Navy personnel had much of the same problem but not as
bad as the pirates. Pirate articles or contracts would often include
a bonus for anyone that lost a limb in service to the ship and/or
crew. This would not have been there had it rarely happened. This,
coincidentally was not commonly given to regular navy sailors. Not all
of them of course.

As for parrots, from what I've read exotic pets were not uncommon for
any sailing vessel but apparently it was more commonly monkeys and
cats.

You are right also that pirates would talk in whatever manner most
sailors would have but with less refinement due to lack of education
and formality.

But this is supposed to be fun. So HAPPY TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY.

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:41:22 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:27:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:18:26 -0400, HK wrote:


And yes, most pirates had missing eyes, wooden legs and parrots.
Aye!!

Chuck must have flunked out of pirate school.
Else, he wouldn't take this stuff so seriously.

Matey, I'm watching a pirate show on the History Channel
now, and it looks like Hank Morgan has all his parts, and is missing a
parrot only.
Arg.


The commonly accepted "model" for pirates is the character created by
Robert Louis Stevenson in his novel Treasure Island. The pirate, of
course, was Long John Silver, who has lost one of his legs, and who has
a parrot, named Captain Flint, on his shoulder. And Stevenson, of
course, was a fine writer, something Chuck will never be.

A number of really good actors have played Silver in film, including
Orson Welles, Charlton Heston, Jack Palance, and, of course, the
incomparable Wallace Beery.

No one really gives a **** what Chuck thinks about pirates or pirate lore.

Maybe, but it's for sure everyone gives a **** about your thoughts and
comments. Your trash mouth is disgusting, Harry.

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:14:46 -0400, HK wrote:

Shouldn't you be out on the
interstate, towing a boat at 75 mph, or something equally anti-social?

In a couple of days I'll be heading south again, burning all of "your"
oil at a prodigious rate.

Is that anti-social enough?

Of course if all of our fine upstanding politicians of both stripes
had taken their collective heads out of the sand (and their butts),
we'd be on alternative fuels by now.

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:03:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 19, 6:28?am, HK wrote:
...Annual Talk Like A Pirate Day!

Arrrrgh!

According to the TLAPD website, a commonly used pickup line in "pirate
bars" is "prepare to be boarded!" It's been a long, long time since I
was single, but it's hard to imagine such an approach resulting in a
lot of "booty".

The whole concept is silly as heck, and historically inaccurate to
boot.
Oh well, some folks will have a lot of fun with it so......happy "Talk
like Hollywood script writers think pirates talked day" :-)



Find that bottle of "Mellow Yellow," Chuck, and take all of them. I know
you are a really serious guy and disdainful of anyone whose idea of fun
is different from yours. You're probably the only guy in the world
trying to analyze TLAPD for hidden meaning and accuracy.

Harry, you are such a sweet guy! I'm sure many of your followers will
compliment you on such a fine post.

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HK wrote:
...Annual Talk Like A Pirate Day!

Arrrrgh!

For your fridge:

http://tinyurl.com/jy7az

Rob

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On Sep 19, 1:20?pm, Bill wrote:
Will you next declare that all or most pirates had missing eyes,
wooden legs, and kept parrots as pets? :-)

Hey Chuck I'll put in my two cents here. many pirates did have
missing limbs because battle was a way of life along with poor medical
facilities. Navy personnel had much of the same problem but not as
bad as the pirates. Pirate articles or contracts would often include
a bonus for anyone that lost a limb in service to the ship and/or
crew. This would not have been there had it rarely happened. This,
coincidentally was not commonly given to regular navy sailors. Not all
of them of course.

And I most definitely agree. What gets to be a bit much is the
Hollywood stereotype of a fellow blind in one eye and balancing
awkwardly on a wooden leg single-handedly slaying wave after wave of
attackers in battle. :-)

For all of its flaws, Stevenson's "Treasure Island" fairly
realistically portrayed that a crippled seaman was more likely to
retire to life ashore (where Long John Silver was first introduced,
cooking in a waterfront pub) than expected to continue carrying his
weight in a boarding.





As for parrots, from what I've read exotic pets were not uncommon for
any sailing vessel but apparently it was more commonly monkeys and
cats.

You are right also that pirates would talk in whatever manner most
sailors would have but with less refinement due to lack of education
and formality.

But this is supposed to be fun. So HAPPY TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY.

And Happy TLAPD to you as well.

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On Sep 19, 8:28 am, HK wrote:
...Annual Talk Like A Pirate Day!

Arrrrgh!

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Missing Aye's?
JR

Vic Smith wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:18:26 -0400, HK wrote:



And yes, most pirates had missing eyes, wooden legs and parrots.


Aye!!


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