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Larry Crowe September 19th 07 02:14 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry

HK September 19th 07 02:22 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Larry Crowe wrote:
Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry



What you do is multiply the weight capacity of your tire by the number
of tires to get the gross capacity of your trailer. If you have two
tires with 1760# capacity each, and those tires are the proper size for
your trailer, your gross capacity is 3520 pounds.

Trailers, the frame part, have an overweight capacity safety factor, too.

I'm guessing, but with your boat and the weight of your trailer, you are
probably at the limit of the trailer's capacity.

My new trailer has four tires with, if memory serves, the same weight
capacity as yours. That might mean my trailer would handle a load of
7000# gross. But the manufacturer rates it as a 6000# gross.

Also important: make sure your tires are properly inflated. Typically,
boat trailer tires need 50-55 psi for safe towing speeds.


Larry Crowe September 19th 07 02:41 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Thanks for the lesson.. Hadn't really ever given a thought to it until
having the blowout,only made for being a little more cautious..larry


HK wrote:
Larry Crowe wrote:
Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry



What you do is multiply the weight capacity of your tire by the number
of tires to get the gross capacity of your trailer. If you have two
tires with 1760# capacity each, and those tires are the proper size for
your trailer, your gross capacity is 3520 pounds.

Trailers, the frame part, have an overweight capacity safety factor, too.

I'm guessing, but with your boat and the weight of your trailer, you are
probably at the limit of the trailer's capacity.

My new trailer has four tires with, if memory serves, the same weight
capacity as yours. That might mean my trailer would handle a load of
7000# gross. But the manufacturer rates it as a 6000# gross.

Also important: make sure your tires are properly inflated. Typically,
boat trailer tires need 50-55 psi for safe towing speeds.


HK September 19th 07 02:52 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Larry Crowe wrote:
Thanks for the lesson.. Hadn't really ever given a thought to it until
having the blowout,only made for being a little more cautious..larry


HK wrote:
Larry Crowe wrote:
Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry


What you do is multiply the weight capacity of your tire by the number
of tires to get the gross capacity of your trailer. If you have two
tires with 1760# capacity each, and those tires are the proper size for
your trailer, your gross capacity is 3520 pounds.

Trailers, the frame part, have an overweight capacity safety factor, too.

I'm guessing, but with your boat and the weight of your trailer, you are
probably at the limit of the trailer's capacity.

My new trailer has four tires with, if memory serves, the same weight
capacity as yours. That might mean my trailer would handle a load of
7000# gross. But the manufacturer rates it as a 6000# gross.

Also important: make sure your tires are properly inflated. Typically,
boat trailer tires need 50-55 psi for safe towing speeds.



Also keep in mind that the faster you tow, the more risks you are taking
and the more strain you are putting on your rig. Stopping distances
while towing are substantially greater than when not towing, and your
ability to "evade" accidents is also much reduced.

Check to make sure your trailer's hubs are greased and if you are towing
any distance, when you stop, put your palm on the hubs. Warm is fine;
really hot is not. I boat in salt water, so I have a two gallon garden
chemical sprayer in my car that I fill with fresh water. After I launch
the boat, I spray the trailer's brakes with fresh water.

Have fun.

Don White September 19th 07 03:44 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 

"HK" wrote in message
...



Also keep in mind that the faster you tow, the more risks you are taking
and the more strain you are putting on your rig. Stopping distances while
towing are substantially greater than when not towing, and your ability to
"evade" accidents is also much reduced.

Check to make sure your trailer's hubs are greased and if you are towing
any distance, when you stop, put your palm on the hubs. Warm is fine;
really hot is not. I boat in salt water, so I have a two gallon garden
chemical sprayer in my car that I fill with fresh water. After I launch
the boat, I spray the trailer's brakes with fresh water.

Have fun.



I thought everyone south of the border ripped along at 75 mph (as some here
would have you believe)
I wouldn't want to be behind them if a tire blew.



HK September 19th 07 03:46 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Also keep in mind that the faster you tow, the more risks you are taking
and the more strain you are putting on your rig. Stopping distances while
towing are substantially greater than when not towing, and your ability to
"evade" accidents is also much reduced.

Check to make sure your trailer's hubs are greased and if you are towing
any distance, when you stop, put your palm on the hubs. Warm is fine;
really hot is not. I boat in salt water, so I have a two gallon garden
chemical sprayer in my car that I fill with fresh water. After I launch
the boat, I spray the trailer's brakes with fresh water.

Have fun.



I thought everyone south of the border ripped along at 75 mph (as some here
would have you believe)



Nah, just the irresponsible a**hole trailer haulers do that.


I wouldn't want to be behind them if a tire blew.



DownTime September 19th 07 03:52 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
HK wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

I thought everyone south of the border ripped along at 75 mph (as some
here would have you believe)



Nah, just the irresponsible a**hole trailer haulers do that.

ah, let's not forget the dump truck drivers who do that on neighborhood
streets! most of those guys are a menace to society!!!

Calif Bill September 19th 07 09:22 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...



Also keep in mind that the faster you tow, the more risks you are taking
and the more strain you are putting on your rig. Stopping distances while
towing are substantially greater than when not towing, and your ability
to "evade" accidents is also much reduced.

Check to make sure your trailer's hubs are greased and if you are towing
any distance, when you stop, put your palm on the hubs. Warm is fine;
really hot is not. I boat in salt water, so I have a two gallon garden
chemical sprayer in my car that I fill with fresh water. After I launch
the boat, I spray the trailer's brakes with fresh water.

Have fun.



I thought everyone south of the border ripped along at 75 mph (as some
here would have you believe)
I wouldn't want to be behind them if a tire blew.


With a proper tow vehicle, do not even notice a blowout on a tandem axle
trailer. Normally you find out about it from a passing motorist honking and
pointing. I bought Carlisle tires one time, never again. Had 3 blowouts in
less than 15 months. The fourth tire was separating when I stopped to
change a blowout.



Chad September 20th 07 03:54 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 


With a proper tow vehicle, do not even notice a blowout on a tandem axle
trailer. Normally you find out about it from a passing motorist honking
and pointing. I bought Carlisle tires one time, never again. Had 3
blowouts in less than 15 months. The fourth tire was separating when I
stopped to change a blowout.


I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4 of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load



Wayne.B September 20th 07 05:21 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4 of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load


Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?

Calif Bill September 20th 07 06:51 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4
of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load


Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?


The problem was they was Carlises.



Short Wave Sportfishing September 20th 07 11:05 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:21:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4 of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load


Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?


The problem was they were Carlisle tires.

Worst. Tires. Ever.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 20th 07 11:06 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:51:58 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4
of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load


Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?


The problem was they was Carlises.


Squawk!!

Reginald P. Smithers III September 20th 07 11:14 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:51:58 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4
of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load
Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?

The problem was they was Carlises.


Squawk!!


No the correct terminology in the situation is ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Short Wave Sportfishing September 20th 07 11:46 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:14:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:51:58 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4
of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load
Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?
The problem was they was Carlises.


Squawk!!


No the correct terminology in the situation is ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Or to put it another way...

The correct terminology is whatever I say the correct terminology is.

Larry Crowe September 20th 07 12:26 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Thanks for sending the shock of fear through me! I just put Carlisle
tires on the trailer. I'm only traveling 300 mile round trip this
weekend and most of my trips are 100 round, but the thought of
interstate driving and having a blowout #$%^&..I do have them inflated
50psi..I'm not going to bring up the issue of bearings ,don't need to
think about that as I'm driving tomorrow.I just won't check the news
group until I'm back!!

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:21:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4 of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load

Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?


The problem was they were Carlisle tires.

Worst. Tires. Ever.


HK September 20th 07 01:21 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:21:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I blew 4 of
my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less than 5000 miles
and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it soundad like a gun.boat and
trailer 15000 lbs tires D load

Somethings wrong.

What was your cold inflation pressure?


The problem was they were Carlisle tires.

Worst. Tires. Ever.




Arrrgh. I have four "Trail America" tires on my new trailer. Probably
made in North Korea by a subsidiary of the Carlisle-Goodyear
Conglomerate. Both of those companies, Carlisle and Goodyear, have had
some serious problems with their trailer tires.

Gene Kearns September 20th 07 02:17 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:38 -0400, Larry Crowe penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry


At 1760 lbs. you probably have 6 ply rating 14" tires. This looks a
little light to me, if you have a 2315# boat + fuel and other "stuff"
that is carried aboard + the weight of the trailer.

Two tires at 1760# each gives you a load rating of 3520#, which is
probably your axle capacity (3500#), if you have 5 lug wheels.

Ditto the above drill when you go to buy springs... there usually is
an agreement in spring capacity, tire capacity, wheel capacity, and
axle capacity.

So.... I suspect you are at the extreme upper limit of capacity for
your trailer's individual components and the trailer as a whole......

I would suggest weighing the trailer in an "as towed" condition: fuel,
gear, .....anything aboard when towed. Based on the new weight
information, if you are a hard core trailerboater, you may want to
look at a heaver trailer.

Don't suffer the fate of one of our ex-"contributors," who sought to
trailer 1,800 miles (each way) to the water and accomplished little
more than smoking the trailer bearings and axles. This was with a
trailer tailored to the boat by the manufacturer, too.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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HK September 20th 07 02:17 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:21:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:54:15 GMT, "Chad" wrote:

I have a triple axel trailer with carlisle tires and last month I
blew 4 of my 7. I couldnt buy tires fast enough the tires have less
than 5000 miles and only 18 months old. when my tires blew it
soundad like a gun.boat and trailer 15000 lbs tires D load
Somethings wrong.
What was your cold inflation pressure?


The problem was they were Carlisle tires.

Worst. Tires. Ever.




Arrrgh. I have four "Trail America" tires on my new trailer. Probably
made in North Korea by a subsidiary of the Carlisle-Goodyear
Conglomerate. Both of those companies, Carlisle and Goodyear, have had
some serious problems with their trailer tires.



Forgot to mention...soon as I got the trailer up here, I took it over to
a tire store and had the four wheel/tire combos "balanced."

HK September 20th 07 02:23 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:38 -0400, Larry Crowe penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry


At 1760 lbs. you probably have 6 ply rating 14" tires. This looks a
little light to me, if you have a 2315# boat + fuel and other "stuff"
that is carried aboard + the weight of the trailer.

Two tires at 1760# each gives you a load rating of 3520#, which is
probably your axle capacity (3500#), if you have 5 lug wheels.

Ditto the above drill when you go to buy springs... there usually is
an agreement in spring capacity, tire capacity, wheel capacity, and
axle capacity.

So.... I suspect you are at the extreme upper limit of capacity for
your trailer's individual components and the trailer as a whole......

I would suggest weighing the trailer in an "as towed" condition: fuel,
gear, .....anything aboard when towed. Based on the new weight
information, if you are a hard core trailerboater, you may want to
look at a heaver trailer.

Don't suffer the fate of one of our ex-"contributors," who sought to
trailer 1,800 miles (each way) to the water and accomplished little
more than smoking the trailer bearings and axles. This was with a
trailer tailored to the boat by the manufacturer, too.



Once you get near the "right size" trailer for your rig, there's very
little extra expense involved, typically, in buying a trailer with a bit
more capacity. Loadmaster used to make a 5200# gross capacity trailer
for a boat like mine, but phased it out this summer in favor of a 6000#
gross capacity trailer. The price difference? $80. Always remember the
"gross capacity" includes the weight of the empty trailer.

Wayne.B September 20th 07 03:10 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:17:07 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Don't suffer the fate of one of our ex-"contributors," who sought to
trailer 1,800 miles (each way) to the water and accomplished little
more than smoking the trailer bearings and axles. This was with a
trailer tailored to the boat by the manufacturer, too.


========================================

But the manufacturer was (dare I say the word) Baaaaaaleaner, was it
not?

HK September 20th 07 03:12 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:17:07 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Don't suffer the fate of one of our ex-"contributors," who sought to
trailer 1,800 miles (each way) to the water and accomplished little
more than smoking the trailer bearings and axles. This was with a
trailer tailored to the boat by the manufacturer, too.


========================================

But the manufacturer was (dare I say the word) Baaaaaaleaner, was it
not?



Leading by example again, eh, Wayne?

Don White September 20th 07 04:44 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

The problem was they were Carlisle tires.

Worst. Tires. Ever.



Say what?
That's what the spare is on my small LoadRite trailer.
The two running tires are Deli??



Short Wave Sportfishing September 20th 07 05:02 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:44:54 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .

The problem was they were Carlisle tires.

Worst. Tires. Ever.



Say what?
That's what the spare is on my small LoadRite trailer.
The two running tires are Deli??


Don't worry about it. You aren't carrying enough weight for it to be
a problem.

Gene Kearns September 20th 07 05:10 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:38 -0400, Larry Crowe penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry


Trailer for my next boat.......

http://www.premay.com/gallery_section/7.html

1,700,000 pound load...... about 1,000 tires????

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
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HK September 20th 07 05:14 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:38 -0400, Larry Crowe penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Interesting that this topic came up as I'm preparing to trailer this
weekend. I recently had new tires installed on the trailer after having
a blowout and noticed last night that the weight capacity listed on the
tire was 1760 lbs. I have a 1996 Glastron with a 3.0 volvo penta and a
quick google search lists similar newer models as having a dry weight of
2315lbs w/3.0. Is the tire not rated properly for my capacity ? I do
recall that they are 15" tires. Thanks Larry


Trailer for my next boat.......

http://www.premay.com/gallery_section/7.html

1,700,000 pound load...... about 1,000 tires????



Planning to buy a waterlogged, 25-year-old Grand Banks, eh?

John H. September 20th 07 06:51 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:12:14 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:17:07 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Don't suffer the fate of one of our ex-"contributors," who sought to
trailer 1,800 miles (each way) to the water and accomplished little
more than smoking the trailer bearings and axles. This was with a
trailer tailored to the boat by the manufacturer, too.


========================================

But the manufacturer was (dare I say the word) Baaaaaaleaner, was it
not?



Leading by example again, eh, Wayne?


Harry, Wayne so far outclasses your 'example' that only one or two here
think you're worthwhile anymore. Eventually they'll get the message also.

Wayne.B September 20th 07 10:57 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:12:14 -0400, HK wrote:

But the manufacturer was (dare I say the word) Baaaaaaleaner, was it
not?



Leading by example again, eh, Wayne?


Harry, you just don't get it do you?

I've decided to follow *your* example.

Sometimes it seems foolish and childish but it's important that we can
carry on the tradition in case you ever decide to retire or get your
act together.

Tomorrow I'm going to look at some lobster boats and Parkers.

HK September 20th 07 11:06 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:12:14 -0400, HK wrote:

But the manufacturer was (dare I say the word) Baaaaaaleaner, was it
not?


Leading by example again, eh, Wayne?


Harry, you just don't get it do you?

I've decided to follow *your* example.

Sometimes it seems foolish and childish but it's important that we can
carry on the tradition in case you ever decide to retire or get your
act together.

Tomorrow I'm going to look at some lobster boats and Parkers.



Well, hold out for a decent trade-in on that barge of yours.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 20th 07 11:28 PM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:06:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:12:14 -0400, HK wrote:

But the manufacturer was (dare I say the word) Baaaaaaleaner, was it
not?

Leading by example again, eh, Wayne?


Harry, you just don't get it do you?

I've decided to follow *your* example.

Sometimes it seems foolish and childish but it's important that we can
carry on the tradition in case you ever decide to retire or get your
act together.

Tomorrow I'm going to look at some lobster boats and Parkers.


Well, hold out for a decent trade-in on that barge of yours.


http://barges.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=46637

HK September 21st 07 01:11 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:06:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:12:14 -0400, HK wrote:

But the manufacturer was (dare I say the word) Baaaaaaleaner, was it
not?
Leading by example again, eh, Wayne?
Harry, you just don't get it do you?

I've decided to follow *your* example.

Sometimes it seems foolish and childish but it's important that we can
carry on the tradition in case you ever decide to retire or get your
act together.

Tomorrow I'm going to look at some lobster boats and Parkers.

Well, hold out for a decent trade-in on that barge of yours.


http://barges.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=46637



Nice looking barge, that is.

Wayne.B September 21st 07 03:46 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:28:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

http://barges.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=46637


The river bank in Paris is almost wall to wall with boats just about
like that. Not a bad place to hang out either.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 21st 07 11:07 AM

Trailer Tire Capacity
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:46:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:28:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

http://barges.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=46637


The river bank in Paris is almost wall to wall with boats just about
like that. Not a bad place to hang out either.


I've always been fascinated by these craft - seems like a great
weekender. I understand that these craft are also live aboards.

Wayne.B September 22nd 07 12:23 AM

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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:07:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've always been fascinated by these craft - seems like a great
weekender. I understand that these craft are also live aboards.


It's hard to say but the ones in Paris look like they are mostly
liveaboards. I suppose that once you get a good spot along the bank
no one wants to give it up. There have been a few interesting
programs on television about traveling through Europe on boats like
that.

We saw a so called "Narrow Boat" suitable for traveling the back
country English canals in Baltimore inner harbor two years ago. They
were heading south on the Chesapeake and ICW like everyone else - must
have taken a wrong turn in London. :-)

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...Images&gbv= 2

Short Wave Sportfishing September 22nd 07 12:36 AM

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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:23:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:07:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've always been fascinated by these craft - seems like a great
weekender. I understand that these craft are also live aboards.


It's hard to say but the ones in Paris look like they are mostly
liveaboards. I suppose that once you get a good spot along the bank
no one wants to give it up. There have been a few interesting
programs on television about traveling through Europe on boats like
that.

We saw a so called "Narrow Boat" suitable for traveling the back
country English canals in Baltimore inner harbor two years ago. They
were heading south on the Chesapeake and ICW like everyone else - must
have taken a wrong turn in London. :-)

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...Images&gbv= 2


I first saw one of these barges in Wooden Boat magazine years ago -
the Mystic Seaport was involved in restoring one that was found in New
York - I want to say somewhere along the Erie Canal, but I can't
remember at the moment. I rode down to the Seaport to look at it and
it was a very interesting boat.

There was also a TV series "Highlander" and part of that series was
shot along the Seine - the protagonist owned a narrow boat that, at
least from the interior shots, was quite a vessel.

Then I saw a documentary on them and I was forever curious.

Seems like a great way to peruse the countryside at a leisurely pace.

Another boat that absoutely fascinates me are these:

http://www.apolloduck.nl/image.phtml?id=56883&image=1

I don't know what they are called, but I've been on two of them and
they are a very special type of boat.

Don White September 22nd 07 12:42 AM

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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:46:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:28:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

http://barges.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=46637


The river bank in Paris is almost wall to wall with boats just about
like that. Not a bad place to hang out either.


I've always been fascinated by these craft - seems like a great
weekender. I understand that these craft are also live aboards.


One of the guys in the Sandpiper forum I frequent (hard to let old habits
die) went over to England and rented one of those liveaboard canal boats for
a week.
Said it was a great time.



Calif Bill September 22nd 07 01:25 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:46:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:28:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

http://barges.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=46637

The river bank in Paris is almost wall to wall with boats just about
like that. Not a bad place to hang out either.


I've always been fascinated by these craft - seems like a great
weekender. I understand that these craft are also live aboards.


One of the guys in the Sandpiper forum I frequent (hard to let old habits
die) went over to England and rented one of those liveaboard canal boats
for a week.
Said it was a great time.


Have a friend in England that rented one and traveled a week with the
family. Said it was a great vacation.



John H. September 22nd 07 02:16 AM

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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:36:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:23:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:07:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've always been fascinated by these craft - seems like a great
weekender. I understand that these craft are also live aboards.


It's hard to say but the ones in Paris look like they are mostly
liveaboards. I suppose that once you get a good spot along the bank
no one wants to give it up. There have been a few interesting
programs on television about traveling through Europe on boats like
that.

We saw a so called "Narrow Boat" suitable for traveling the back
country English canals in Baltimore inner harbor two years ago. They
were heading south on the Chesapeake and ICW like everyone else - must
have taken a wrong turn in London. :-)

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...Images&gbv= 2


I first saw one of these barges in Wooden Boat magazine years ago -
the Mystic Seaport was involved in restoring one that was found in New
York - I want to say somewhere along the Erie Canal, but I can't
remember at the moment. I rode down to the Seaport to look at it and
it was a very interesting boat.

There was also a TV series "Highlander" and part of that series was
shot along the Seine - the protagonist owned a narrow boat that, at
least from the interior shots, was quite a vessel.

Then I saw a documentary on them and I was forever curious.

Seems like a great way to peruse the countryside at a leisurely pace.

Another boat that absoutely fascinates me are these:

http://www.apolloduck.nl/image.phtml?id=56883&image=1

I don't know what they are called, but I've been on two of them and
they are a very special type of boat.


You need to visit the Netherlands and look at some of the boats. The
country is a treat to visit.

Wayne.B September 22nd 07 04:32 AM

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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:36:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Another boat that absoutely fascinates me are these:

http://www.apolloduck.nl/image.phtml?id=56883&image=1

I don't know what they are called, but I've been on two of them and
they are a very special type of boat.


That's a classic dutch cruising sailboat. Instead of having a keel or
centerboard, they have "lee boards", one on each side. They are also
distinguished by a rounded bow and a good deal of beaminess.


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