On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:02:58 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:42:18 -0400, HK wrote:

A new F150 Yamaha sells for $9000, and a Suzuki, $8000. What's the going
price on an etec 150?

Dunno, but I suspect it's roughly the same.


I suspect the margins are pretty close to the same on all major engine
brands. The Yamaha 350 is around $18,000. These are street prices.

If you can buy one of those, rigged, for 18K, buy as many as you can.

They list for slightly over $26K.

The cheapest I could find was $21K.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:02:58 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:42:18 -0400, HK wrote:

A new F150 Yamaha sells for $9000, and a Suzuki, $8000. What's the going
price on an etec 150?
Dunno, but I suspect it's roughly the same.

I suspect the margins are pretty close to the same on all major engine
brands. The Yamaha 350 is around $18,000. These are street prices.
If you can buy one of those, rigged, for 18K, buy as many as you can.

They list for slightly over $26K.

The cheapest I could find was $21K.

You should have asked Harry, he could have save you $3,000, and sold the
engine for $28,000 3 years from now..

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:24:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

JimH was talking about all the sand he had to go through. I just don't do
it. If I'm in two feet of water at my beach, I get out, grab a rope and
pull the boat in. Why take the chance of hitting something that doesn't
show up on the depth/fish finder?

I could be wrong on this but I understood his situation to be more
complicated, something like a 2 ft sand bar followed by 6 ft of deep
water before he got to the beach. If he's in SWFL there's a lot of
skinny water to be negotiated at times.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:48:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:42:18 -0400, HK wrote:

A new F150 Yamaha sells for $9000, and a Suzuki, $8000. What's the going
price on an etec 150?
Dunno, but I suspect it's roughly the same.

I suspect the margins are pretty close to the same on all major engine
brands. The Yamaha 350 is around $18,000. These are street prices.

If you can buy one of those, rigged, for 18K, buy as many as you can.

They list for slightly over $26K.


The prices I posted are not "rigged," they are "engines in boxes"
prices. I know what they list for.

I have no need of an F350. My "lil" F150 pushes my new Parker along just
the way I want it to. I think I mentioned I briefly considered the F200,
but it would have been another 100 pounds on the transom. When I bought
my last SeaPro, I went for a 135 hp, but I probably should have bought
an F115 instead. It was a lighter engine, and since that boat only
weighed about 1900 pounds, it would have been sufficient. The heavier
engine in my mind pushed the stern down too much at rest and at idle
speeds. It was fine at planing speeds.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:12:05 -0400, HK wrote:

The prices I posted are not "rigged," they are "engines in boxes"
prices.

That's just the engine alone. With controls and guages, it was
$21,000. And don't tell me you can find it cheaper because you can't.
The best I could get an F350 for was $21 and that was damn near dealer
cost from a Yamaha dealer.

I know what they list for.

Then you've pretty much proved my point. If there is that much
inflation built into the "list" price, how much is built into the
"retail" price?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:12:05 -0400, HK wrote:

The prices I posted are not "rigged," they are "engines in boxes"
prices.

That's just the engine alone. With controls and guages, it was
$21,000. And don't tell me you can find it cheaper because you can't.
The best I could get an F350 for was $21 and that was damn near dealer
cost from a Yamaha dealer.

I know what they list for.

Then you've pretty much proved my point. If there is that much
inflation built into the "list" price, how much is built into the
"retail" price?



Hey! All I posted was that I knew where one could buy an F350 for
$18,000. You're the one who added the "extras."

If I ever see an "eTec driver" out on the water, I'll signal him and ask
what he paid for the engine. :}

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:38:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:12:05 -0400, HK wrote:

The prices I posted are not "rigged," they are "engines in boxes"
prices.

That's just the engine alone. With controls and guages, it was
$21,000. And don't tell me you can find it cheaper because you can't.
The best I could get an F350 for was $21 and that was damn near dealer
cost from a Yamaha dealer.

I know what they list for.

Then you've pretty much proved my point. If there is that much
inflation built into the "list" price, how much is built into the
"retail" price?

Hey! All I posted was that I knew where one could buy an F350 for
$18,000. You're the one who added the "extras."

If I ever see an "eTec driver" out on the water, I'll signal him and ask
what he paid for the engine. :}

I paid $13K for mine, but that was dealer cost. Retail, it was just
shy of $16K, controls and rigging extra (which I didn't pay for). Mine
is an HO so that's a little higher.

Don't quote me on this becasue I'm not at all sure of this, but I
think the standard 200 ETEC with 60 degree block sans controls is
around $10K - $12K w/controls and rigged.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:38:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:12:05 -0400, HK wrote:

The prices I posted are not "rigged," they are "engines in boxes"
prices.
That's just the engine alone. With controls and guages, it was
$21,000. And don't tell me you can find it cheaper because you can't.
The best I could get an F350 for was $21 and that was damn near dealer
cost from a Yamaha dealer.

I know what they list for.
Then you've pretty much proved my point. If there is that much
inflation built into the "list" price, how much is built into the
"retail" price?
Hey! All I posted was that I knew where one could buy an F350 for
$18,000. You're the one who added the "extras."

If I ever see an "eTec driver" out on the water, I'll signal him and ask
what he paid for the engine. :}

I paid $13K for mine, but that was dealer cost. Retail, it was just
shy of $16K, controls and rigging extra (which I didn't pay for). Mine
is an HO so that's a little higher.

Don't quote me on this becasue I'm not at all sure of this, but I
think the standard 200 ETEC with 60 degree block sans controls is
around $10K - $12K w/controls and rigged.


IF memory serves, the "upgrade" price on my Parker to go from an F150 to
an F200 was $3000. That price includes factory rigging.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:31:17 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

I think they are a lot tougher than you might suspect though.

I do not hit bottom when crossing the sandbar, either with my keel or the
prop (I/O is raised). Even with a low prop speed some sand does kick up.

I guess I am wearing suspenders and a belt now regarding the impeller
based
on my terrible experience last year due to a worn one.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't. I haven't seen the need to do it
on a regular basis. Then again, I tend to use my instruments as
indicators of problems, so I operate differently than you do.

And based on your experience, I would certainly be leery and concerned
about impellers and probably do as you do - all things being equal.

On my Mariner 15 I changed the impeller after about 12 years. Major problem
was getting the leg off the O/B. One good thing about changing the impeller
every 2 years is you take off the leg and grease up the shaft so the shaft
does not corrode to the powerhead. My Yamaha T-8 is a kicker so does not
get run in the sand much and has not had the impeller changed in the 4 years
I have had it.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:47:35 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:15:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Since the boat will sit for days without being used and will run for
long periods at high revolution it is more important that the oil is
in top condition.

Oil? Change oil?

What is this "change oil" you speak of? :)

Oil - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil

It is the black substance that drips all over the bilge when you remove
the tube from the dipstick hole.

It is the same black substance that will always spill out of the filter
when you try to carefully remove it, and will manage to miss the tub and
rags you have carefully around the area so you won't make a mess.

Jeeze Louise - get out of the 20th century and into the 21st.

That's disgusting.

It's the stuff you keep burning in the frog motor.