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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

http://www.google.com/search?q=etec+...x=&startPage=1

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...al/ETEC5A.aspx

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...al/ETEC5C.aspx

"In our opinion, cost of operation will prove to be less for an E-TEC
in the long run."

And that was using XD-50, not XD-100 which give ETEC even more
efficiency in oil consumption by a factor of 20.

You guys can't win - I win every time.

YOU DROOL - I RULE!!!

LOL, that is the stupidest link showing cost of operation I have ever
seen. The whole premise of that link assumes you actually use the boat.

If you don't use it, (or use it 25 hrs a year) there will not be any of
this supposed "cost savings".

YOU LOSE. HAH!!!!!!!!

I haven't owned an OB since 1986, and that was a 1972 125 hp Johnson.
Now that was one nice Johnson, and fuel and oil consumption was not a
problem.

You buy the fuel, you put in the oil, no problem.

when to change raw water impeller

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:48:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

http://www.google.com/search?q=etec+...x=&startPage=1

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...al/ETEC5A.aspx

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...al/ETEC5C.aspx

"In our opinion, cost of operation will prove to be less for an E-TEC
in the long run."

And that was using XD-50, not XD-100 which give ETEC even more
efficiency in oil consumption by a factor of 20.

You guys can't win - I win every time.

YOU DROOL - I RULE!!!

LOL, that is the stupidest link showing cost of operation I have ever
seen. The whole premise of that link assumes you actually use the boat.

If you don't use it, (or use it 25 hrs a year) there will not be any of
this supposed "cost savings".

YOU LOSE. HAH!!!!!!!!

I haven't owned an OB since 1986, and that was a 1972 125 hp Johnson.
Now that was one nice Johnson, and fuel and oil consumption was not a
problem.

You buy the fuel, you put in the oil, no problem.

Being serious here, the one thing I can claim, based on fact and
experience, admittedly partially acnecdotal, is that I get twice the
fuel efficiency of any four stroke on the market and about the same
over other DI two strokes.

I'll admit that may be unique to me as I try hard to keep fairly
accurate records of my fuel and oil usage for a variety of reasons.

Others may have different experiences.

when to change raw water impeller

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:48:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

http://www.google.com/search?q=etec+...x=&startPage=1
http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...al/ETEC5A.aspx

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...al/ETEC5C.aspx

"In our opinion, cost of operation will prove to be less for an E-TEC
in the long run."

And that was using XD-50, not XD-100 which give ETEC even more
efficiency in oil consumption by a factor of 20.

You guys can't win - I win every time.

YOU DROOL - I RULE!!!
LOL, that is the stupidest link showing cost of operation I have ever
seen. The whole premise of that link assumes you actually use the boat.

If you don't use it, (or use it 25 hrs a year) there will not be any of
this supposed "cost savings".

YOU LOSE. HAH!!!!!!!!

I haven't owned an OB since 1986, and that was a 1972 125 hp Johnson.
Now that was one nice Johnson, and fuel and oil consumption was not a
problem.

You buy the fuel, you put in the oil, no problem.

Being serious here, the one thing I can claim, based on fact and
experience, admittedly partially acnecdotal, is that I get twice the
fuel efficiency of any four stroke on the market and about the same
over other DI two strokes.

I'll admit that may be unique to me as I try hard to keep fairly
accurate records of my fuel and oil usage for a variety of reasons.

Others may have different experiences.

SWS,

On a serious note, if I was in the market for an OB, my gut reaction
would be to with the 4 stroke, but before i plucked down all of that
money on either ETEC or 4 stroke, I would do some serious research. As
I said, I normally use my boat for 100 - 125 hrs a year, so I my usage
is probably substantially less than your. Since I tend to keep my cars
and boats, longer than the average person, I would want to get some data
on ETEC that have over 2500 hrs on them. You really would have to talk
to some professional guides to see anyone with that kind of hours on a
fairly new engine, but it would be a great enduser feedback.

How many hours do you have on those ticking time bombs anyway?

when to change raw water impeller

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:21:56 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

On a serious note, if I was in the market for an OB, my gut reaction
would be to with the 4 stroke, but before i plucked down all of that
money on either ETEC or 4 stroke, I would do some serious research.

As long as we are in on-topic discussion mode here, I'll confess that
I looked at four strokes seriously when I bought the second Contender.
I spent a lot of time around the two marinas I normally hang at
talking to guys who owned four strokes and all the reports were
positive initially. After a while, I began to notice that the
occasional "damn engine" curses began and by the time the end of that
summer rolled around, I was convinced that they are as problematic as
any other outboard in serious use.

Please note the serious use clause.

AFter taking a few of these boat out, to me anyway, they didn't
perform as I would have expected them to given weight to hp ratio. Now
a lot of that depends on gear, fuel, prop, etc., but to me the four
strokes I ran didn't have the throttle response, low end power or
power at cruise that I was used to with the FICHT on the Ranger. They
were also noiser than I expected. The one exception was the Verado
when they were introduced, but they were gas hogs - might as well take
a gas station with you on a fishing trip.

With my FICHT experience, I had a lot of confidence that the 150/175
hp block problem was very well contained. After looking over the
specs, and based on my experience with higher hp FICHTS (200 and up),
my natural inclination was to go with ETEC. Naturally, I found a 23
Hydra-Sports that had a 200 HO ETEC on it and I was blown away by the
power, efficiency and overall performance compared to the four strokes
I ran. The difference between ETEC and FICHT was startling. I though
the FICHTs I owned were pretty nifty, ETEC just out performed the
FICHT and in my opinion, my FICHTs had it all over four strokes.

I said, I normally use my boat for 100 - 125 hrs a year, so I my usage
is probably substantially less than your. Since I tend to keep my cars
and boats, longer than the average person, I would want to get some data
on ETEC that have over 2500 hrs on them. You really would have to talk
to some professional guides to see anyone with that kind of hours on a
fairly new engine, but it would be a great enduser feedback.

How many hours do you have on those ticking time bombs anyway?

I can't speak to 2500 hours, but I can speak to ETECs @ 1700 hours
with no problems. The FICHTS on the original Contender have 2700
hours and are going through their very first rebuild.

On my boat, I have a little over 70 hours on this engine, but that was
due to extenuating circumstances last summer and this summer - I spent
a lot of time traveling here and there and this summer has been pretty
much the same.

Hopefully, this Fall and early Winter, I will be able to take
advantage of some down time and use the boat a little more than I have
the past two Falls - which is were I run most of the time anyway.

when to change raw water impeller

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

How many hours do you have on those ticking time bombs anyway?

I can't speak to 2500 hours, but I can speak to ETECs @ 1700 hours
with no problems. The FICHTS on the original Contender have 2700
hours and are going through their very first rebuild.

On my boat, I have a little over 70 hours on this engine, but that was
due to extenuating circumstances last summer and this summer - I spent
a lot of time traveling here and there and this summer has been pretty
much the same.

Hopefully, this Fall and early Winter, I will be able to take
advantage of some down time and use the boat a little more than I have
the past two Falls - which is were I run most of the time anyway.

Someone with 1700 hrs would be able to give you great enduser feedback.
How much do they charge for a OB rebuild?